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suppose it would help if i add myself to

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the stream here i've done this before

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guys how's it going tonight how are we

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doing

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let's see i'm gonna hop right over here

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to the chat first of all welcome to the

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garage thank you for coming in and

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spending another evening with us

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hop in an old blue and seeing where we

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go tonight as many of you know our guest

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is preston dennon tonight and i'm

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extremely excited to

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dig into uh the the very broad knowledge

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base that he has and and so much that

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he's contributed to uh ufology as a

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whole i'm very excited to dig into all

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that but really quick i'm gonna give a

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shout out to those that have shown up in

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the chat already it's not showing it on

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my end but i know that chad smith was

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here first so gold position is to chad

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second place is thurston third place

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being eddie haskell thank you all so

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much for being here

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certainly not least or last year we have

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champ campbell we have zero cool

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excuse me we have don

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don john bovee very nice sun safer

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what's happening brother uh wes h in in

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the chat tonight says hello

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why says uh it's harsh time yeah yeah it

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is oh i misread that but why is here in

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the chat tonight as well we have tony

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tony what's up what's up visas what's up

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big willy what's up to you brother good

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job's internet by the way be down with

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the boys here in the garage uh we know

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others will be hopping in here as we

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move along if you guys could really

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quickly out of the bat i always like see

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everybody to do this if you could hit a

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like that helps us so much ring the bell

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so you get notified in case you ever

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forget where he's like today i put up a

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light reminder for the episode

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and if you're feeling really frisky i'd

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love to ask you guys to please please

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share this i don't care how you share it

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who you share it with but just share it

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and it does so much more than you guys

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know

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it's how um i found some of my favorite

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shows or just because somebody shared a

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link once i'm like i'm gonna go check

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this out and then i i fall in love with

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the show so if you guys could do that

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for us we'd appreciate it filthy says

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hey big willy and i bid you i do get sir

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how are you this evening i think that's

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actually goodbye but either way thank

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you for coming and showing up in the

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chat tonight

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uh really quickly to you guys a couple

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of house cleaning things to get out of

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the way i will not be here next weekend

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i will be in chicago with my family my

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wife going to a wedding so we're excited

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for that but i won't be around for those

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that are listing podcast format i don't

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believe it'll affect you at all but for

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youtube i won't be here uh the week

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i will have i believe ooh i should have

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had this pulled up already ready to go

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for you guys i believe it's ron felder

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could be for the uh the incident the

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mojave the incident in mojave desert let

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me just double check that and i know

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uh will be my last guest

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before we start over at sor and we start

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the after hours show so let me just

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check this really quick here

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let's see uh that is on the fourth yeah

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so uh that will actually be nicole is my

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next guest i do apologize guys and then

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10th i'll be moving to friday's

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paranormal chop shop and i will be kind

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of swapping places there a little bit

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he's going to take over my saturday slot

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i'm gonna take over his friday slot so

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speaking of that uh hopefully the voice

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holds up otherwise preston you're gonna

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have to run the show tonight because

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i was in there for about seven hours the

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other night guys as you guys know the

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party always goes hard even after we've

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all right guys so really quick before we

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bring in preston here and i don't think

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i missed anything else obviously if you

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i'll throw this up you can sew support

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for the ufo grashpodcast.com uh there

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adding there guys all kinds of little

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fun stuff a lot of stickers i'm really

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excited about i still have koozies now

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let's dig into what we're here for

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tonight we're down the road we already

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got all blue out and let's just talk

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about preston for just a second so did

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you guys have in case you do not are not

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familiar with preston i'll give you a

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brief background here of him preston

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dennett began investigating ufos and the

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paranormal in 1986 when he discovered

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that his family friends and co-workers

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were having dramatic unexplained

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encounters since then he has interviewed

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hundreds of witnesses and investigated a

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wide variety of paranormal phenomena

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he is a field and guest investigator for

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the mutual ufo network or mufon a ghost

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hunter a paranormal researcher and the

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author of 28 books and more than 100

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articles about ufos and the paranormal

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several of his books are amazon ufo

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bestsellers his articles have appeared

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german portuguese french russian and

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television television programs his

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he's he currently resides in uh resida

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california to contact preston uh email

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him at preston

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anybody that's curious i have the links

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to everything you might be interested in

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again all those show notes are in the in

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the link right there including all of

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his books i got one link for you so

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it'll take you to all 28 of his books

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preston how's it going brother

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it's going pretty good thanks for having

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final chat we really appreciate that uh

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it helps us with so much and

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uh more than you guys know honestly in

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appreciate you making the time to come

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on here tonight i know that we are all

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very busy these days and it sounds like

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hey i love doing this stuff so actually

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see is coming out more and more uh

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spooky what's happening how are you

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doing tonight but it has been kind of

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when anybody takes it too seriously is

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that fair to say sometimes

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there has been soft disclosure but it's

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i'm not holding my breath

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was kind of cool i mean for

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i guess i i still try to continually

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remind myself and i've not been in this

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very long at all and i'm in no way shape

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or form or researcher

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uh a presenter anything like that i'm

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just someone who's very curious about it

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it fascinates me and i believe it

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deserves more attention

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but i sometimes do forget

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that is even as novice as i am

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there are those that have no clue about

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some of this stuff so when stuff comes

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out and it was a big disappointment i

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think most anybody who's ever paid

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attention knew it would be with their

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supposed disclosure even if it was just

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the preliminary event or preliminary

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it still was something for those that

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i guess not paying attention at all

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still still kind of think it's a joke so

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i guess if nothing else um

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we can take that is a little bit of a

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win even if it's frustrating because

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i don't know the process that they go

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through is questionable at times as you

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know very well so yeah that was

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definitely the best thing that came out

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of it it brought a lot of people into

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so i'm pretty excited about that yeah

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so i guess let's start here before we

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really dig into this because first of

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all that was a very impressive resume i

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apologize every time i read somebody's

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resume i feel so bad uh i usually murder

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it along the way so the point league

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lady we had on here last time she had so

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many unique uh things that she had done

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there were words i was reading that i

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had never even tried to read in my life

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and it was it was a good time but

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uh really quick for you you have 28

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books so be but before the 28 books

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before everybody knew you as this person

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that your resume now reflects this

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amazing career that you started to build

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for yourself and just being on this

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journey an adventure

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where were you i mean 1986 is when he

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said things started change but

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leading up to that i'd love to hit on

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that if you're okay with it of early

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years of press and what was going on in

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preston's life and what was his

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perception of this i guess this topic

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yeah i mean it hit me when i was 21

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years old 1986 so i was a pretty young

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guy

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but i did not believe in this stuff for

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a second i was a die-hard skeptic don't

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tell me you've seen ufos you're an idiot

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i don't believe in them shut up um

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that's kind of my attitude it was really

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rude and ignorant but that's where i was

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at

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i was very interested in science and

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astronomy and things like this and

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like well the stars are just too far

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away that's all there is to it ufos are

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not taught in school no one's taking

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this seriously i don't want to hear it

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and i remember i was probably 13

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14 well maybe yeah 14 years old i'm

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going to say when my brother mark

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comes running into the house or else you

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know a lot of us are sitting at the

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table we've got a pretty large family

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there's six of us six of us kids

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nice and uh mark's my older brother

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three older brothers an older sister and

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a younger sister and mark comes running

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in he's you know he's a teenager he's

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like 19 years old or so

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super excited he's like i just saw ufo

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and i just looked at him like oh no

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and he's like no really it was you know

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as low as the telephone poles

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i'm like shut up i don't want to hear it

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and i just kind of ignored him

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yeah yeah i was

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i just didn't believe i don't know for

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some

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it was

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a tough subject for me to swallow

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my sisters they always believed it and

334
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uh my other brothers never did

335
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my brother jamie

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went to his grave not believing in this

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stuff really

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uh but uh

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yeah when i heard that report in the

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news 1986 that changed everything

341
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so what was the report if you well

342
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before we get to that let me ask you

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this uh roughly what area of the country

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did you did you grow up in because i

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feel like they can play a big part into

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our perception of of this topic at times

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was it a very

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bible belt area or

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for sure yeah i think it did play a role

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actually

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chicago area oh very nice

352
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yeah i remember it i remember those

353
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winters even though we left when i was

354
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six years old

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my family could not take the chicago

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winters

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any longer and we went west

358
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yeah i remember being so cold water

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freezes before it hits the ground

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but we

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we went to california so i grew up

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outside of la here

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and uh i think it did play a role

364
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because there are a lot of sightings

365
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here in fact

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uh you know the national ufo reporting

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center new fork

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as a ufo reporting center and

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california leads this

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united states in terms of number of ufo

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sightings

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so yeah a lot of ufos hanging out here

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now do you think that when you first

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when that report came up let's hit on

375
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that i guess what was the report what

376
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was the case that that started to change

377
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some things changed your uh

378
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i guess your whole perspective on maybe

379
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even your world review at that time

380
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oh yeah sure did i'll never forget it

381
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november 17 1986.

382
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you know a good portion of the families

383
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there watching tv and uh it was dan

384
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rather or you know tom brokaw one of

385
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those guys came on

386
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and started talking about this pilot oh

387
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we'd seen a ufo over alaska

388
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in a japanese commercial airliner

389
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and that was really all they said i mean

390
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they showed his picture

391
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they joked a little bit about it back

392
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and forth you seen the ufo no haha

393
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laughed nervously and moved on

394
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turns out it's a really well-known case

395
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in the field

396
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it has radar returns multiple witnesses

397
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it tracked their plane for over an hour

398
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they requested a course change it still

399
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followed them it's a great case

400
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none of that was in the ufo report but

401
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they did show a picture of the pilot

402
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kenjutorochi

403
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i remember looking at him thinking that

404
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poor guy

405
00:14:00,790 --> 00:13:57,920
that poor deluded

406
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pilot how did he ever get in charge of

407
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flying a plane if he thinks you have to

408
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go

409
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i thought he was seeing a reflection off

410
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the ice cap but that was kind of my

411
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go-to explanation

412
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but that that's when i remember like

413
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mark hmm my brother mark said he saw one

414
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i'm like maybe i'll ask him about it

415
00:14:20,710 --> 00:14:18,560
again

416
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and i did stupid me

417
00:14:24,629 --> 00:14:22,639
go up to him and mcmark you heard about

418
00:14:26,870 --> 00:14:24,639
this crazy pilot

419
00:14:28,550 --> 00:14:26,880
he's like no no i'm like yeah this pilot

420
00:14:30,870 --> 00:14:28,560
says he saw a ufo he's like i saw one

421
00:14:33,030 --> 00:14:30,880
i'm like yeah i know tell me

422
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it kind of gives me this look like

423
00:14:37,509 --> 00:14:35,199
all right

424
00:14:39,990 --> 00:14:37,519
and he described this amazing sighting

425
00:14:41,509 --> 00:14:40,000
and it really was he was in his car with

426
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two friends

427
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driving down receda boulevard not far

428
00:14:49,990 --> 00:14:46,480
from where i live now actually

429
00:14:52,629 --> 00:14:50,000
and this was at night they saw ufo it

430
00:14:55,509 --> 00:14:52,639
was a classic saucer

431
00:14:57,910 --> 00:14:55,519
very low metallic colored lights a dome

432
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on top and they chased it down the

433
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street other cars were chasing it

434
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it was totally silent they was in view

435
00:15:06,629 --> 00:15:04,480
for about 15 minutes before it just

436
00:15:09,110 --> 00:15:06,639
darted like a 10 miles away and they

437
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lost track of it

438
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but i'm like

439
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man oh man are you kidding me he's like

440
00:15:15,269 --> 00:15:14,399
no go ahead ask phil ask greg his

441
00:15:16,389 --> 00:15:15,279
friends

442
00:15:20,629 --> 00:15:16,399
yeah

443
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them just to double check right i did

444
00:15:23,350 --> 00:15:21,519
yeah

445
00:15:25,509 --> 00:15:23,360
and they were so happy to talk to me

446
00:15:27,110 --> 00:15:25,519
like yeah dude man you wouldn't believe

447
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it we

448
00:15:31,670 --> 00:15:30,000
may describe the same thing he saw

449
00:15:32,870 --> 00:15:31,680
interesting

450
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no

451
00:15:36,470 --> 00:15:34,320
i guess is that what kind of i guess

452
00:15:37,509 --> 00:15:36,480
that point then when the gear started

453
00:15:38,870 --> 00:15:37,519
i mean these were people that you

454
00:15:41,110 --> 00:15:38,880
trusted these were people you found to

455
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be honest individuals not someone that

456
00:15:45,829 --> 00:15:43,440
was prone to just making up a story to

457
00:15:48,389 --> 00:15:45,839
get attention is that i guess what's

458
00:15:50,550 --> 00:15:48,399
shifted your paradigm here a little bit

459
00:15:52,150 --> 00:15:50,560
yep that's found a little [\h__\h] in my

460
00:15:54,069 --> 00:15:52,160
armor there

461
00:15:56,230 --> 00:15:54,079
because uh i'm like well i know mark's

462
00:15:57,910 --> 00:15:56,240
not lying i just know it and i don't

463
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think he's misperceiving i mean he

464
00:16:01,110 --> 00:15:58,880
sounds

465
00:16:03,030 --> 00:16:01,120
these guys saw something but

466
00:16:05,350 --> 00:16:03,040
aliens really

467
00:16:07,350 --> 00:16:05,360
so i started asking

468
00:16:09,189 --> 00:16:07,360
other family members my brother jamie's

469
00:16:10,550 --> 00:16:09,199
like go away

470
00:16:12,629 --> 00:16:10,560
you're crazy

471
00:16:14,949 --> 00:16:12,639
and steven wouldn't even and he's like

472
00:16:16,949 --> 00:16:14,959
no never seen anything

473
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and my sister victoria was like no i

474
00:16:20,150 --> 00:16:18,480
think they're real though

475
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you know don't you remember they were in

476
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the encyclopedia when we were kids

477
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yeah but i started asking friends

478
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and had a good friend good family friend

479
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sylvia walters

480
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and she lived not too far away

481
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and she's like oh yeah i saw one me and

482
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my friend we heard it first

483
00:16:43,590 --> 00:16:41,600
it's this low buzzing noise we went

484
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running outside and there was this huge

485
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egg-shaped object moving over our house

486
00:16:51,269 --> 00:16:48,800
like wow two of you really

487
00:16:53,829 --> 00:16:51,279
like yep she's a pilot by the way and a

488
00:16:55,670 --> 00:16:53,839
scuba diver a good witness

489
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yeah

490
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i started asking everybody

491
00:17:01,269 --> 00:17:00,000
and i found a lot of people i knew had

492
00:17:03,509 --> 00:17:01,279
seen them

493
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i brought it up at work and

494
00:17:06,710 --> 00:17:04,959
my hands they had worked with for years

495
00:17:08,390 --> 00:17:06,720
is like oh yeah i mean my whole family

496
00:17:09,750 --> 00:17:08,400
saw the star-like object it's darting

497
00:17:11,829 --> 00:17:09,760
around

498
00:17:13,990 --> 00:17:11,839
in walks dorothy who i love because

499
00:17:16,549 --> 00:17:14,000
she's like totally unfiltered and will

500
00:17:18,789 --> 00:17:16,559
tell you anything

501
00:17:20,390 --> 00:17:18,799
it's like ufos oh one followed us home

502
00:17:21,990 --> 00:17:20,400
from the library

503
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like wait what

504
00:17:25,189 --> 00:17:23,600
she's like yeah yeah i was just a

505
00:17:27,429 --> 00:17:25,199
teenager but me and my best friend were

506
00:17:29,190 --> 00:17:27,439
at the library my mom picked us up this

507
00:17:31,590 --> 00:17:29,200
object drops down out of the sky it was

508
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right over the telephone wires

509
00:17:36,310 --> 00:17:34,240
like shut up she's like no for real

510
00:17:38,470 --> 00:17:36,320
it was it had colored lights on it was

511
00:17:40,470 --> 00:17:38,480
metallic my mom saw it talk to her you

512
00:17:41,669 --> 00:17:40,480
know talk to my friend carol which i did

513
00:17:43,190 --> 00:17:41,679
of course

514
00:17:45,270 --> 00:17:43,200
but followed them home they lived five

515
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minutes from the library this is in

516
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koreatown

517
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very

518
00:17:52,230 --> 00:17:49,480
populated area

519
00:17:53,350 --> 00:17:52,240
1957 i think it was

520
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so

521
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they go home five minutes drive

522
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and uh

523
00:18:01,909 --> 00:18:00,400
go upstairs and watch the ufo dart away

524
00:18:05,669 --> 00:18:01,919
and look at the clock they left the

525
00:18:07,029 --> 00:18:05,679
library at 9 00 905. it's now 10 15.

526
00:18:08,870 --> 00:18:07,039
it turns me it's like preston i don't

527
00:18:09,909 --> 00:18:08,880
know what happened to the time i have no

528
00:18:12,870 --> 00:18:09,919
idea

529
00:18:16,070 --> 00:18:12,880
it's like an hour disappeared

530
00:18:17,750 --> 00:18:16,080
and i'm like oh dorothy

531
00:18:18,950 --> 00:18:17,760
i picked up a couple of books by this

532
00:18:22,230 --> 00:18:18,960
time

533
00:18:23,590 --> 00:18:22,240
did not

534
00:18:26,150 --> 00:18:23,600
i'm like dorothy you may have been

535
00:18:27,830 --> 00:18:26,160
inside that thing and she's like what

536
00:18:29,350 --> 00:18:27,840
i'm like yeah that's missing time

537
00:18:30,789 --> 00:18:29,360
haven't you heard of this

538
00:18:32,710 --> 00:18:30,799
she's like no no

539
00:18:34,950 --> 00:18:32,720
no there wasn't a lot out there about

540
00:18:37,029 --> 00:18:34,960
ufos at this time

541
00:18:39,590 --> 00:18:37,039
but yeah i was

542
00:18:41,590 --> 00:18:39,600
not a happy camper i was really upset

543
00:18:43,029 --> 00:18:41,600
this was not good news as far as i was

544
00:18:44,630 --> 00:18:43,039
concerned

545
00:18:46,950 --> 00:18:44,640
well let's hit on that for a second if

546
00:18:48,390 --> 00:18:46,960
you don't mind it's

547
00:18:49,830 --> 00:18:48,400
i guess your perspective at the time

548
00:18:51,430 --> 00:18:49,840
what if we could a little more expressed

549
00:18:53,350 --> 00:18:51,440
to us what would what was your

550
00:18:55,350 --> 00:18:53,360
perception why did that i guess bother

551
00:18:57,270 --> 00:18:55,360
you what was your view on all of this as

552
00:18:58,470 --> 00:18:57,280
a whole at that time

553
00:19:00,549 --> 00:18:58,480
because i thought i had a pretty good

554
00:19:02,310 --> 00:19:00,559
handle on the world you know i thought

555
00:19:05,110 --> 00:19:02,320
that

556
00:19:07,430 --> 00:19:05,120
i mean finding out ufos were real was a

557
00:19:09,909 --> 00:19:07,440
big pill to swallow

558
00:19:11,430 --> 00:19:09,919
and that there was a government cover-up

559
00:19:13,990 --> 00:19:11,440
and that our own government was you know

560
00:19:16,549 --> 00:19:14,000
using our tax dollars to lie to us

561
00:19:19,590 --> 00:19:16,559
not only that make ufo witnesses look

562
00:19:21,830 --> 00:19:19,600
like idiots and fools and drug users and

563
00:19:25,350 --> 00:19:21,840
liars

564
00:19:27,190 --> 00:19:25,360
and i just could not believe it

565
00:19:29,190 --> 00:19:27,200
and yet i had no choice

566
00:19:29,990 --> 00:19:29,200
but to believe it

567
00:19:31,750 --> 00:19:30,000
so

568
00:19:34,390 --> 00:19:31,760
my whole belief system just kind of

569
00:19:35,909 --> 00:19:34,400
collapsed and it was painful

570
00:19:37,909 --> 00:19:35,919
i didn't like it

571
00:19:40,310 --> 00:19:37,919
um it was don't get me wrong it's

572
00:19:42,070 --> 00:19:40,320
fascinating stuff i mean i was riveted

573
00:19:43,750 --> 00:19:42,080
by these stories

574
00:19:45,350 --> 00:19:43,760
but to

575
00:19:48,150 --> 00:19:45,360
you know it was never mentioned in

576
00:19:49,669 --> 00:19:48,160
school it was not taken seriously on tv

577
00:19:52,070 --> 00:19:49,679
at all

578
00:19:54,390 --> 00:19:52,080
it was all very jokey and if you see a

579
00:19:56,070 --> 00:19:54,400
ufo you're you know

580
00:19:58,630 --> 00:19:56,080
an idiot you're a liar you're

581
00:20:01,190 --> 00:19:58,640
misperceiving

582
00:20:03,510 --> 00:20:01,200
and that just wasn't true and the more i

583
00:20:05,669 --> 00:20:03,520
dug into it i'm like wow

584
00:20:07,110 --> 00:20:05,679
a lot of really credible people have

585
00:20:08,310 --> 00:20:07,120
seen this stuff

586
00:20:10,230 --> 00:20:08,320
that was

587
00:20:12,710 --> 00:20:10,240
just

588
00:20:14,549 --> 00:20:12,720
unbelievable to me i ended up buying all

589
00:20:17,669 --> 00:20:14,559
the books i could find

590
00:20:20,870 --> 00:20:17,679
that wasn't enough you know it was

591
00:20:22,470 --> 00:20:20,880
you know hearing stories wasn't enough

592
00:20:24,950 --> 00:20:22,480
i i started

593
00:20:26,630 --> 00:20:24,960
investigating firsthand i joined mufon

594
00:20:28,710 --> 00:20:26,640
mutual ufo network became a field

595
00:20:30,070 --> 00:20:28,720
investigator no this was prior to you

596
00:20:31,590 --> 00:20:30,080
writing any kind of book or anything you

597
00:20:33,510 --> 00:20:31,600
just decided well let me see what i can

598
00:20:36,390 --> 00:20:33,520
do and got involved

599
00:20:38,549 --> 00:20:36,400
yeah i started going to ufo conventions

600
00:20:41,110 --> 00:20:38,559
local ufo meetings

601
00:20:43,110 --> 00:20:41,120
started going outside at night

602
00:20:44,549 --> 00:20:43,120
camping and where people said you know i

603
00:20:45,830 --> 00:20:44,559
saw one the other day i'd be like where

604
00:20:47,430 --> 00:20:45,840
do you live

605
00:20:50,070 --> 00:20:47,440
i'm coming over

606
00:20:52,870 --> 00:20:50,080
i wanted to see i mean i really wanted

607
00:20:54,950 --> 00:20:52,880
to see this and i eventually did but

608
00:20:55,990 --> 00:20:54,960
yeah i was in this field for about 10

609
00:20:57,270 --> 00:20:56,000
years

610
00:20:59,510 --> 00:20:57,280
doing

611
00:21:01,110 --> 00:20:59,520
lots of just

612
00:21:02,950 --> 00:21:01,120
field work and

613
00:21:04,149 --> 00:21:02,960
researching and investigating and

614
00:21:06,789 --> 00:21:04,159
interviewing

615
00:21:08,789 --> 00:21:06,799
before i had written like 30 40 articles

616
00:21:12,390 --> 00:21:08,799
before i wrote my first book

617
00:21:13,830 --> 00:21:12,400
okay so so yeah so in time

618
00:21:15,830 --> 00:21:13,840
in that process then when you when you

619
00:21:17,270 --> 00:21:15,840
joined mufon where you were out in the

620
00:21:18,149 --> 00:21:17,280
field i'm assuming so you were starting

621
00:21:20,390 --> 00:21:18,159
to get

622
00:21:22,149 --> 00:21:20,400
even more of these first-hand encounters

623
00:21:23,909 --> 00:21:22,159
uh their stories at least you're no

624
00:21:25,590 --> 00:21:23,919
longer just re i think there's some sort

625
00:21:27,990 --> 00:21:25,600
of a separation when we read a story

626
00:21:29,909 --> 00:21:28,000
when we read something on the internet

627
00:21:31,669 --> 00:21:29,919
there's this weird guy like i don't use

628
00:21:33,029 --> 00:21:31,679
the term too much but the cognitive

629
00:21:34,470 --> 00:21:33,039
dissonance where it's like oh that's

630
00:21:36,149 --> 00:21:34,480
there you know we're back in the day it

631
00:21:37,990 --> 00:21:36,159
was a newspaper whatever but when you're

632
00:21:39,510 --> 00:21:38,000
sitting down with somebody and you're

633
00:21:41,830 --> 00:21:39,520
looking them eye to eye

634
00:21:43,990 --> 00:21:41,840
and you're feeling the emotions of this

635
00:21:46,470 --> 00:21:44,000
and people i think we still forget guys

636
00:21:47,909 --> 00:21:46,480
just how connected we are right now

637
00:21:50,390 --> 00:21:47,919
versus what we were in the eighties and

638
00:21:51,830 --> 00:21:50,400
nineties it wasn't that long ago

639
00:21:53,909 --> 00:21:51,840
that things could be happening and the

640
00:21:55,590 --> 00:21:53,919
next time when you just didn't even know

641
00:21:58,310 --> 00:21:55,600
you know there's we're just so connected

642
00:21:59,669 --> 00:21:58,320
now with everything but for you what was

643
00:22:02,070 --> 00:21:59,679
that experience like to sit down in

644
00:22:03,750 --> 00:22:02,080
front of an individual and hear it

645
00:22:05,110 --> 00:22:03,760
firsthand versus reading on a piece of

646
00:22:08,070 --> 00:22:05,120
paper

647
00:22:09,750 --> 00:22:08,080
yeah this this was before the internet

648
00:22:11,190 --> 00:22:09,760
this was before you could just look up

649
00:22:13,830 --> 00:22:11,200
anything online

650
00:22:15,270 --> 00:22:13,840
uh and uh yeah i went to mufon and

651
00:22:17,430 --> 00:22:15,280
became a field investigator they gave me

652
00:22:19,029 --> 00:22:17,440
a test it was hard

653
00:22:21,270 --> 00:22:19,039
it was a take-home test i thought well

654
00:22:23,350 --> 00:22:21,280
it's a take-home test it's gonna be easy

655
00:22:24,870 --> 00:22:23,360
no you could not look up anything online

656
00:22:26,950 --> 00:22:24,880
you had to go to the library it was all

657
00:22:28,630 --> 00:22:26,960
about photography and astronomy and

658
00:22:30,390 --> 00:22:28,640
weather

659
00:22:31,669 --> 00:22:30,400
so yeah sitting down in front of a

660
00:22:34,070 --> 00:22:31,679
person

661
00:22:36,149 --> 00:22:34,080
was as close as i could get at this

662
00:22:37,190 --> 00:22:36,159
point to the phenomena

663
00:22:38,149 --> 00:22:37,200
and

664
00:22:40,470 --> 00:22:38,159
it

665
00:22:42,230 --> 00:22:40,480
changes you especially if you know this

666
00:22:43,510 --> 00:22:42,240
person well

667
00:22:44,310 --> 00:22:43,520
and

668
00:22:46,310 --> 00:22:44,320
you know

669
00:22:48,870 --> 00:22:46,320
i started getting referrals from you

670
00:22:50,390 --> 00:22:48,880
know family and friends of their friends

671
00:22:51,990 --> 00:22:50,400
and people at work would come in and

672
00:22:56,310 --> 00:22:52,000
they

673
00:22:57,990 --> 00:22:56,320
you've seen a ufo he wants to hear about

674
00:23:00,470 --> 00:22:58,000
it

675
00:23:05,510 --> 00:23:03,510
and that's i have to tell you that

676
00:23:07,750 --> 00:23:05,520
i've talked to a lot of people and often

677
00:23:10,710 --> 00:23:07,760
this is what they will say they'll

678
00:23:12,870 --> 00:23:10,720
get a little teary-eyed even like

679
00:23:16,549 --> 00:23:12,880
i haven't told my wife this i haven't

680
00:23:19,430 --> 00:23:16,559
told my husband this i'd nobody i've not

681
00:23:21,510 --> 00:23:19,440
told anybody what i'm about to tell you

682
00:23:23,029 --> 00:23:21,520
i've had people cry as they're telling

683
00:23:25,990 --> 00:23:23,039
their story

684
00:23:27,430 --> 00:23:26,000
or sh you know shake or get really

685
00:23:28,549 --> 00:23:27,440
nervous

686
00:23:30,310 --> 00:23:28,559
and like i don't know if i should tell

687
00:23:33,029 --> 00:23:30,320
you this you're not going to believe me

688
00:23:35,909 --> 00:23:33,039
i'm like trust me i'm going to i i'm

689
00:23:38,149 --> 00:23:35,919
looking into this i'm interested i want

690
00:23:40,630 --> 00:23:38,159
to know what you experienced

691
00:23:42,870 --> 00:23:40,640
and yeah people will weep as they're

692
00:23:43,909 --> 00:23:42,880
telling their story you just know it's

693
00:23:45,190 --> 00:23:43,919
real

694
00:23:47,029 --> 00:23:45,200
because they're

695
00:23:49,110 --> 00:23:47,039
shaking with emotion

696
00:23:50,470 --> 00:23:49,120
not they're not all crying some are like

697
00:23:51,909 --> 00:23:50,480
super excited they're jumping up and

698
00:23:53,190 --> 00:23:51,919
down like oh man oh man oh man you

699
00:23:54,230 --> 00:23:53,200
wouldn't believe it

700
00:23:55,669 --> 00:23:54,240
can't believe it you're actually going

701
00:23:59,269 --> 00:23:55,679
to listen to me no one

702
00:24:01,909 --> 00:23:59,279
no one believes me when i tell them this

703
00:24:04,470 --> 00:24:01,919
yeah yeah it was amazing

704
00:24:06,149 --> 00:24:04,480
i'll never forget those days in the

705
00:24:08,070 --> 00:24:06,159
beginning of like just listening to

706
00:24:10,149 --> 00:24:08,080
people spill out

707
00:24:11,909 --> 00:24:10,159
their story

708
00:24:14,390 --> 00:24:11,919
was there one that stuck out to you i

709
00:24:16,470 --> 00:24:14,400
guess in the beginning one that kind of

710
00:24:17,750 --> 00:24:16,480
really hit home for you or it started to

711
00:24:19,909 --> 00:24:17,760
click or maybe it was a couple of them

712
00:24:21,269 --> 00:24:19,919
collectively that drove something home

713
00:24:22,870 --> 00:24:21,279
kind of put the nail in the coffin as it

714
00:24:24,470 --> 00:24:22,880
were for you

715
00:24:26,789 --> 00:24:24,480
yeah i think the real nail in the coffin

716
00:24:28,230 --> 00:24:26,799
came from my sister-in-law

717
00:24:30,390 --> 00:24:28,240
with her missing time

718
00:24:33,190 --> 00:24:30,400
no this is a this is another one oh

719
00:24:35,029 --> 00:24:33,200
another one even better let's go um yeah

720
00:24:38,390 --> 00:24:35,039
she

721
00:24:40,230 --> 00:24:38,400
friends i'm like oh that's interesting

722
00:24:43,190 --> 00:24:40,240
wow and i ended up interviewing her and

723
00:24:45,190 --> 00:24:43,200
her friends about this sighting

724
00:24:47,909 --> 00:24:45,200
and it was a good

725
00:24:49,430 --> 00:24:47,919
several months maybe a year later she

726
00:24:51,190 --> 00:24:49,440
i'm talking to her and she's like well i

727
00:24:52,950 --> 00:24:51,200
saw something else once i'm like what

728
00:24:54,789 --> 00:24:52,960
did you see

729
00:24:56,710 --> 00:24:54,799
she says well i was walking outside my

730
00:24:59,190 --> 00:24:56,720
home in van nuys

731
00:25:02,470 --> 00:24:59,200
and uh taking a walk at night it's

732
00:25:04,870 --> 00:25:02,480
around 11 p.m with her dog sarah

733
00:25:07,110 --> 00:25:04,880
and uh she saw what she thought were two

734
00:25:08,549 --> 00:25:07,120
kids standing in front of stag street

735
00:25:09,990 --> 00:25:08,559
elementary school

736
00:25:11,750 --> 00:25:10,000
okay

737
00:25:13,029 --> 00:25:11,760
and uh she's walking closer to him

738
00:25:14,870 --> 00:25:13,039
they're standing under the spotlight

739
00:25:16,789 --> 00:25:14,880
there

740
00:25:17,590 --> 00:25:16,799
it became really apparent to her that

741
00:25:19,990 --> 00:25:17,600
they

742
00:25:21,590 --> 00:25:20,000
looked strange

743
00:25:23,990 --> 00:25:21,600
they were you know

744
00:25:24,950 --> 00:25:24,000
under five feet tall so she's like huh

745
00:25:26,630 --> 00:25:24,960
kids

746
00:25:27,909 --> 00:25:26,640
could they be wearing masks because it

747
00:25:29,990 --> 00:25:27,919
looks like almost they were wearing

748
00:25:31,669 --> 00:25:30,000
masks their skin was so white

749
00:25:33,029 --> 00:25:31,679
they were bald

750
00:25:34,549 --> 00:25:33,039
she thought well it's not halloween it's

751
00:25:36,470 --> 00:25:34,559
not anywhere near halloween it was

752
00:25:39,590 --> 00:25:36,480
summer you know

753
00:25:40,710 --> 00:25:39,600
and she walks up right next to them

754
00:25:41,909 --> 00:25:40,720
because they're you know she's on the

755
00:25:45,110 --> 00:25:41,919
sidewalk and they're right there in the

756
00:25:46,630 --> 00:25:45,120
courtyard so she's about 10 feet away

757
00:25:49,750 --> 00:25:46,640
from them

758
00:25:51,590 --> 00:25:49,760
as she's passing by then

759
00:25:53,510 --> 00:25:51,600
and she's looking at them and they

760
00:25:54,630 --> 00:25:53,520
aren't human she says they were not

761
00:25:56,310 --> 00:25:54,640
human

762
00:25:57,909 --> 00:25:56,320
like what do you mean she said i don't

763
00:25:59,990 --> 00:25:57,919
know what they were

764
00:26:02,470 --> 00:26:00,000
she did not use the term aliens she did

765
00:26:04,789 --> 00:26:02,480
not she did not know what to think

766
00:26:07,029 --> 00:26:04,799
uh but she discarded as wearing olive

767
00:26:08,710 --> 00:26:07,039
green jumpsuits

768
00:26:10,710 --> 00:26:08,720
with little kind of

769
00:26:14,230 --> 00:26:10,720
mandarin collars

770
00:26:16,710 --> 00:26:14,240
she said they had huge huge heads

771
00:26:17,909 --> 00:26:16,720
very pale white so white that you know

772
00:26:19,909 --> 00:26:17,919
if it was a human they would have been

773
00:26:21,669 --> 00:26:19,919
dead that's how she described it

774
00:26:24,549 --> 00:26:21,679
wow giant

775
00:26:26,390 --> 00:26:24,559
dark eyes almost no nose or mouth that

776
00:26:28,230 --> 00:26:26,400
you could see

777
00:26:30,149 --> 00:26:28,240
and they were float looked like they

778
00:26:31,830 --> 00:26:30,159
were floating about an inch above the

779
00:26:33,590 --> 00:26:31,840
ground

780
00:26:35,750 --> 00:26:33,600
and she says as she walked right up next

781
00:26:38,390 --> 00:26:35,760
to them they were face to face almost

782
00:26:40,070 --> 00:26:38,400
like they were kissing but they weren't

783
00:26:41,909 --> 00:26:40,080
she says that was weird

784
00:26:43,510 --> 00:26:41,919
and as she was right up next to them

785
00:26:45,669 --> 00:26:43,520
they swiveled

786
00:26:47,830 --> 00:26:45,679
and turned and looked at her and locked

787
00:26:49,830 --> 00:26:47,840
gazes with her

788
00:26:51,510 --> 00:26:49,840
so it scared the daylights out of her

789
00:26:54,230 --> 00:26:51,520
it's like being woken up when you're

790
00:26:56,630 --> 00:26:54,240
already awake they weren't human

791
00:26:57,909 --> 00:26:56,640
yeah and uh

792
00:26:59,590 --> 00:26:57,919
she just

793
00:27:00,870 --> 00:26:59,600
didn't want to run because she didn't

794
00:27:02,470 --> 00:27:00,880
want to feel like she was in a complete

795
00:27:04,310 --> 00:27:02,480
panic

796
00:27:07,350 --> 00:27:04,320
so she just started walking as fast as

797
00:27:09,590 --> 00:27:07,360
she could and not looking back i'm like

798
00:27:10,870 --> 00:27:09,600
what do you think they were she

799
00:27:12,149 --> 00:27:10,880
says i don't know you know i never

800
00:27:14,630 --> 00:27:12,159
thought about it i didn't want to think

801
00:27:16,630 --> 00:27:14,640
about it it scares me

802
00:27:18,549 --> 00:27:16,640
did you get any did they say anything no

803
00:27:19,990 --> 00:27:18,559
no didn't say anything

804
00:27:22,470 --> 00:27:20,000
like suzanne that sounds like gray

805
00:27:24,710 --> 00:27:22,480
aliens she's like what are they what

806
00:27:26,310 --> 00:27:24,720
what's a grey alien

807
00:27:28,389 --> 00:27:26,320
and she had just you know as she was

808
00:27:29,909 --> 00:27:28,399
describing it i'm like ooh if she tells

809
00:27:31,750 --> 00:27:29,919
me they have big dark eyes and a big

810
00:27:32,830 --> 00:27:31,760
head you know i started to predict what

811
00:27:34,389 --> 00:27:32,840
she was gonna

812
00:27:36,870 --> 00:27:34,399
say

813
00:27:38,870 --> 00:27:36,880
so i'm like getting chills as she's

814
00:27:41,029 --> 00:27:38,880
describing because i knew what she was

815
00:27:43,269 --> 00:27:41,039
going to tell me and she had never read

816
00:27:45,269 --> 00:27:43,279
a ufo book in her life

817
00:27:47,830 --> 00:27:45,279
that you know had no real interest in

818
00:27:51,269 --> 00:27:47,840
the subject

819
00:27:53,269 --> 00:27:51,279
and still does not like to talk about it

820
00:28:01,510 --> 00:27:53,279
yeah

821
00:28:02,789 --> 00:28:01,520
you know it's funny when you hit on that

822
00:28:04,630 --> 00:28:02,799
too because like anthony brought up a

823
00:28:06,630 --> 00:28:04,640
minute ago it's it's amazing how he was

824
00:28:07,750 --> 00:28:06,640
saying that when we tell people because

825
00:28:09,590 --> 00:28:07,760
you had a moment now right when you were

826
00:28:11,909 --> 00:28:09,600
listening to her uh like he was saying

827
00:28:13,669 --> 00:28:11,919
here here it is never uh never

828
00:28:16,389 --> 00:28:13,679
understand how people can tell others

829
00:28:18,710 --> 00:28:16,399
that you didn't see what you saw or

830
00:28:20,549 --> 00:28:18,720
experienced what you experienced and in

831
00:28:22,549 --> 00:28:20,559
that moment you could have right the

832
00:28:24,630 --> 00:28:22,559
rational easy out

833
00:28:25,510 --> 00:28:24,640
to be fair would have been like

834
00:28:27,430 --> 00:28:25,520
well

835
00:28:28,870 --> 00:28:27,440
good for you maybe where you drink it

836
00:28:31,669 --> 00:28:28,880
you know like there's always the classic

837
00:28:34,070 --> 00:28:31,679
go-to's um but i do

838
00:28:35,669 --> 00:28:34,080
appreciate that uh that you took time

839
00:28:37,190 --> 00:28:35,679
was it was it kind of hard for you to be

840
00:28:38,230 --> 00:28:37,200
more open do you mind it on it or do you

841
00:28:39,830 --> 00:28:38,240
think it would have been easier to kind

842
00:28:41,830 --> 00:28:39,840
of tell her that what she's seen wasn't

843
00:28:45,830 --> 00:28:41,840
what she's seen

844
00:28:47,590 --> 00:28:45,840
at that point i was absolutely

845
00:28:49,510 --> 00:28:47,600
um well not i don't want to use the word

846
00:28:51,750 --> 00:28:49,520
okay with it but

847
00:28:53,269 --> 00:28:51,760
um because it was hard to hear kind of

848
00:28:56,070 --> 00:28:53,279
in a way because

849
00:28:59,510 --> 00:28:56,080
that's it there goes my belief system i

850
00:29:01,269 --> 00:28:59,520
am done i'm cooked it's you aliens are

851
00:29:03,430 --> 00:29:01,279
real

852
00:29:05,190 --> 00:29:03,440
she's an artist she you know when we're

853
00:29:06,950 --> 00:29:05,200
watching a movie we're all like what

854
00:29:09,669 --> 00:29:06,960
just happened and she's like she's got

855
00:29:13,269 --> 00:29:09,679
an almost identic memory i mean she can

856
00:29:14,630 --> 00:29:13,279
remember things like nobody's business

857
00:29:17,190 --> 00:29:14,640
and uh

858
00:29:19,190 --> 00:29:17,200
yeah hearing her describe that

859
00:29:21,190 --> 00:29:19,200
it's funny because people will try to

860
00:29:23,669 --> 00:29:21,200
like what were you smoking

861
00:29:25,990 --> 00:29:23,679
or you know what you here's what you saw

862
00:29:29,029 --> 00:29:26,000
just so you know i'm like oh you were

863
00:29:29,909 --> 00:29:29,039
there huh no no they weren't

864
00:29:33,350 --> 00:29:29,919
yeah

865
00:29:35,269 --> 00:29:33,360
i had somebody um not long ago man i

866
00:29:37,350 --> 00:29:35,279
guess was last year they were listening

867
00:29:39,029 --> 00:29:37,360
to a story that i had covered

868
00:29:40,470 --> 00:29:39,039
and it happened to be a

869
00:29:41,830 --> 00:29:40,480
family member of theirs

870
00:29:43,350 --> 00:29:41,840
and they came to me afterwards and they

871
00:29:44,470 --> 00:29:43,360
said i just want you to know that story

872
00:29:45,750 --> 00:29:44,480
they told

873
00:29:47,190 --> 00:29:45,760
they're lying

874
00:29:48,630 --> 00:29:47,200
and i you know i kind of i was letting

875
00:29:49,909 --> 00:29:48,640
them at first kind of say their piece

876
00:29:51,269 --> 00:29:49,919
but they kept going at it you know

877
00:29:53,110 --> 00:29:51,279
they're really lying to you they lied to

878
00:29:54,710 --> 00:29:53,120
you and i said well here's the deal i

879
00:29:56,710 --> 00:29:54,720
said first of all i always give

880
00:29:58,149 --> 00:29:56,720
everybody free reign within reason of

881
00:30:00,710 --> 00:29:58,159
you are free to share whatever you want

882
00:30:02,950 --> 00:30:00,720
to my uh our listeners here in the group

883
00:30:03,909 --> 00:30:02,960
they it's not my job to be a damper of

884
00:30:06,710 --> 00:30:03,919
some sort

885
00:30:08,789 --> 00:30:06,720
to you know filter what's coming through

886
00:30:11,190 --> 00:30:08,799
within you know general good reason

887
00:30:13,110 --> 00:30:11,200
there uh in the the chat that's their

888
00:30:14,310 --> 00:30:13,120
job they listen i'm not gonna if

889
00:30:16,310 --> 00:30:14,320
somebody wants to come out and lie to us

890
00:30:18,870 --> 00:30:16,320
that's that's their business right

891
00:30:20,389 --> 00:30:18,880
but for you to sit there and say

892
00:30:22,950 --> 00:30:20,399
not being there

893
00:30:24,470 --> 00:30:22,960
you know how can you sit there and and

894
00:30:25,669 --> 00:30:24,480
really say that you know and to be fair

895
00:30:27,190 --> 00:30:25,679
it's it's

896
00:30:28,470 --> 00:30:27,200
it could go either way here and well

897
00:30:31,269 --> 00:30:28,480
it's different what i'm saying is more

898
00:30:32,789 --> 00:30:31,279
realistic and in reality we live it

899
00:30:33,750 --> 00:30:32,799
well maybe that's just the reality that

900
00:30:35,590 --> 00:30:33,760
we

901
00:30:36,389 --> 00:30:35,600
are choosing to live in right now who

902
00:30:37,830 --> 00:30:36,399
knows

903
00:30:39,350 --> 00:30:37,840
but i agree with what you're saying that

904
00:30:40,710 --> 00:30:39,360
too many people seem to reach out to

905
00:30:42,630 --> 00:30:40,720
that whole point of

906
00:30:44,789 --> 00:30:42,640
well this is what it was let me let me

907
00:30:46,470 --> 00:30:44,799
tell you what you experienced and that

908
00:30:47,990 --> 00:30:46,480
has to be so frustrating for someone

909
00:30:49,590 --> 00:30:48,000
who's experienced something that's just

910
00:30:51,029 --> 00:30:49,600
unexplainable

911
00:30:52,470 --> 00:30:51,039
how do you deal with that no wonder

912
00:30:54,870 --> 00:30:52,480
they're you know

913
00:30:56,789 --> 00:30:54,880
some experiences have a lot of

914
00:30:58,870 --> 00:30:56,799
not all but some have got anger and

915
00:31:00,470 --> 00:30:58,880
animosity that ways because look what

916
00:31:02,230 --> 00:31:00,480
happens they come forward they're

917
00:31:03,909 --> 00:31:02,240
they're labeled as frauds

918
00:31:05,430 --> 00:31:03,919
not only from the outside but even

919
00:31:07,350 --> 00:31:05,440
sometimes within the community people

920
00:31:08,310 --> 00:31:07,360
are like well that's not what that never

921
00:31:09,590 --> 00:31:08,320
happened to me so that could have

922
00:31:11,750 --> 00:31:09,600
happened to you

923
00:31:13,750 --> 00:31:11,760
and uh i don't know i did it just must

924
00:31:15,430 --> 00:31:13,760
be a very hard thing to come forward

925
00:31:16,789 --> 00:31:15,440
and share such a raw emotional thing

926
00:31:18,470 --> 00:31:16,799
that happened to you this very personal

927
00:31:20,870 --> 00:31:18,480
thing that happened to you too you know

928
00:31:24,070 --> 00:31:20,880
yeah it split my family in two

929
00:31:26,389 --> 00:31:24,080
it really did really wow my dad was not

930
00:31:28,149 --> 00:31:26,399
happy he's like you know

931
00:31:29,909 --> 00:31:28,159
why are you talking about ufos i'm like

932
00:31:31,669 --> 00:31:29,919
dad they're real

933
00:31:32,710 --> 00:31:31,679
my brother's like stop talking about

934
00:31:35,350 --> 00:31:32,720
this

935
00:31:37,830 --> 00:31:35,360
you're you sound like an idiot i'm like

936
00:31:39,509 --> 00:31:37,840
i'm sorry you're the idiot if you won't

937
00:31:42,389 --> 00:31:39,519
even look at the evidence look at the

938
00:31:45,029 --> 00:31:42,399
evidence skeptics will not look

939
00:31:46,549 --> 00:31:45,039
they could they just won't even examine

940
00:31:48,630 --> 00:31:46,559
the evidence

941
00:31:50,149 --> 00:31:48,640
it's infuriating

942
00:31:52,710 --> 00:31:50,159
and what i found

943
00:31:56,549 --> 00:31:52,720
real quick is that almost all the people

944
00:31:59,909 --> 00:31:56,559
i was interviewing who had seen ufos

945
00:32:01,909 --> 00:31:59,919
had witnesses with them i feel so really

946
00:32:03,909 --> 00:32:01,919
bad for people who see this stuff alone

947
00:32:05,669 --> 00:32:03,919
and have no one to like because you

948
00:32:07,430 --> 00:32:05,679
question your i've had a few sightings

949
00:32:09,190 --> 00:32:07,440
by myself and you question your own

950
00:32:11,350 --> 00:32:09,200
sanity

951
00:32:12,950 --> 00:32:11,360
your first go-to is like

952
00:32:16,950 --> 00:32:12,960
did i just imagine that

953
00:32:18,310 --> 00:32:16,960
oh my god did that just really happen

954
00:32:20,549 --> 00:32:18,320
ah

955
00:32:23,269 --> 00:32:20,559
and when you have someone there with you

956
00:32:24,310 --> 00:32:23,279
it makes it a hell of a lot easier to

957
00:32:27,029 --> 00:32:24,320
absorb

958
00:32:29,909 --> 00:32:27,039
something that's just beyond your

959
00:32:33,509 --> 00:32:32,230
so from this i guess at this point

960
00:32:35,269 --> 00:32:33,519
you're starting to collect it's not like

961
00:32:37,830 --> 00:32:35,279
you in almost a decade give or take

962
00:32:39,750 --> 00:32:37,840
right 96 before you wrote anything or

963
00:32:42,149 --> 00:32:39,760
published any sort of a book you had had

964
00:32:44,070 --> 00:32:42,159
to have encountered and accumulated some

965
00:32:46,310 --> 00:32:44,080
pretty fascinating stories at this time

966
00:32:48,070 --> 00:32:46,320
and you have to forgive me i i did have

967
00:32:50,950 --> 00:32:48,080
the list up earlier please forgive me

968
00:32:52,230 --> 00:32:50,960
what was your first book i i do i forget

969
00:32:52,950 --> 00:32:52,240
what the name of the first one was do

970
00:32:55,990 --> 00:32:52,960
you

971
00:32:57,590 --> 00:32:56,000
no i remember yeah

972
00:32:59,190 --> 00:32:57,600
apologize i should have had that pulled

973
00:33:02,789 --> 00:32:59,200
up right there for you

974
00:33:04,950 --> 00:33:02,799
yeah it was my sister-in-law uh my

975
00:33:07,509 --> 00:33:04,960
who married my brother mark who saw ufos

976
00:33:09,590 --> 00:33:07,519
and she had had face-to-face encounters

977
00:33:12,149 --> 00:33:09,600
as well as a kid which i haven't talked

978
00:33:13,029 --> 00:33:12,159
about yet she took a while to reveal as

979
00:33:14,310 --> 00:33:13,039
well

980
00:33:15,669 --> 00:33:14,320
she's like you should think about

981
00:33:17,750 --> 00:33:15,679
writing a book press and you got some

982
00:33:18,789 --> 00:33:17,760
good information

983
00:33:19,830 --> 00:33:18,799
and uh

984
00:33:23,029 --> 00:33:19,840
i was just in the middle of

985
00:33:25,029 --> 00:33:23,039
investigating this major ufo wave

986
00:33:27,509 --> 00:33:25,039
and i was writing a book about all the

987
00:33:29,190 --> 00:33:27,519
people i'd interviewed but then i ran

988
00:33:30,950 --> 00:33:29,200
into this lady

989
00:33:34,149 --> 00:33:30,960
i'll call her wendy

990
00:33:35,990 --> 00:33:34,159
who told me that she had been healed

991
00:33:37,830 --> 00:33:36,000
by ets

992
00:33:39,830 --> 00:33:37,840
i'm like really she's like yeah honest

993
00:33:41,669 --> 00:33:39,840
to god i had the cyst it was causing all

994
00:33:43,110 --> 00:33:41,679
kinds of problems they diagnosed it with

995
00:33:45,509 --> 00:33:43,120
an mri

996
00:33:47,190 --> 00:33:45,519
i was about to have surgery that night

997
00:33:49,110 --> 00:33:47,200
the ets came

998
00:33:51,029 --> 00:33:49,120
and went to the doctor

999
00:33:52,630 --> 00:33:51,039
that day to have surgery and they

1000
00:33:54,549 --> 00:33:52,640
couldn't find the cyst

1001
00:33:56,230 --> 00:33:54,559
and they accused her of having surgery

1002
00:33:58,230 --> 00:33:56,240
because not only was the cyst gone

1003
00:34:00,710 --> 00:33:58,240
they're like there's fluid here in your

1004
00:34:02,870 --> 00:34:00,720
fallopian tube which is only present if

1005
00:34:05,110 --> 00:34:02,880
you've had surgery and what are these

1006
00:34:07,350 --> 00:34:05,120
laser scars on your stomach you had

1007
00:34:09,270 --> 00:34:07,360
surgery we know you did she's like

1008
00:34:11,510 --> 00:34:09,280
denying it and denying it it's like no i

1009
00:34:13,589 --> 00:34:11,520
didn't she didn't want to say

1010
00:34:17,909 --> 00:34:13,599
i'm like wendy why why didn't you tell

1011
00:34:20,629 --> 00:34:17,919
them the truth it's like are you kidding

1012
00:34:22,950 --> 00:34:20,639
the men in white coats would have come

1013
00:34:24,710 --> 00:34:22,960
i'm like well maybe you're right because

1014
00:34:27,270 --> 00:34:24,720
yeah i have known people who did tell

1015
00:34:30,149 --> 00:34:27,280
and got put into a mental institution

1016
00:34:32,310 --> 00:34:30,159
no kidding by their family

1017
00:34:35,909 --> 00:34:32,320
so wendy tells me this story i'm like a

1018
00:34:38,149 --> 00:34:35,919
healing case wow this is amazing

1019
00:34:40,869 --> 00:34:38,159
and i started to remember in other cases

1020
00:34:41,829 --> 00:34:40,879
like of a police officer

1021
00:34:44,310 --> 00:34:41,839
who has

1022
00:34:46,310 --> 00:34:44,320
healed in in texas when a beam of light

1023
00:34:49,990 --> 00:34:46,320
came down and shined on his hand healed

1024
00:34:52,230 --> 00:34:50,000
him of a a wound his baby pet alligator

1025
00:34:53,430 --> 00:34:52,240
had bitten his finger

1026
00:34:55,190 --> 00:34:53,440
alligator

1027
00:34:57,349 --> 00:34:55,200
yeah that's such a unique thing that it

1028
00:34:59,750 --> 00:34:57,359
chose to heal then huh

1029
00:35:01,829 --> 00:34:59,760
yeah bizarre and i knew of another case

1030
00:35:03,990 --> 00:35:01,839
in france where a guy had been struck by

1031
00:35:05,349 --> 00:35:04,000
a beam of light and healed him of an axe

1032
00:35:07,430 --> 00:35:05,359
wound on his foot

1033
00:35:09,829 --> 00:35:07,440
and partial paralysis which he had

1034
00:35:11,349 --> 00:35:09,839
suffered from from years during from a

1035
00:35:13,990 --> 00:35:11,359
war injury

1036
00:35:16,150 --> 00:35:14,000
it was a well authenticated case i knew

1037
00:35:17,349 --> 00:35:16,160
of another or a peruvian customs

1038
00:35:18,950 --> 00:35:17,359
official

1039
00:35:20,710 --> 00:35:18,960
had been struck by a beam of light and

1040
00:35:22,630 --> 00:35:20,720
it cured him of nearsightedness and

1041
00:35:24,710 --> 00:35:22,640
rheumatism

1042
00:35:25,990 --> 00:35:24,720
so wendy's telling me all this and all

1043
00:35:27,589 --> 00:35:26,000
these other cases are running through my

1044
00:35:28,950 --> 00:35:27,599
head i'm like this would make a great

1045
00:35:31,349 --> 00:35:28,960
article

1046
00:35:32,630 --> 00:35:31,359
because i hadn't heard a lot about it

1047
00:35:34,310 --> 00:35:32,640
so i started

1048
00:35:36,230 --> 00:35:34,320
going through all my books

1049
00:35:38,230 --> 00:35:36,240
and i had a lot by then i have even more

1050
00:35:39,589 --> 00:35:38,240
now like 300

1051
00:35:42,150 --> 00:35:39,599
uh but uh

1052
00:35:43,670 --> 00:35:42,160
i i found like 30 cases i'm like well

1053
00:35:45,109 --> 00:35:43,680
i'm not going to be able to run you know

1054
00:35:46,470 --> 00:35:45,119
fit this into an article this would make

1055
00:35:47,270 --> 00:35:46,480
a great book

1056
00:35:51,910 --> 00:35:47,280
yeah

1057
00:35:53,190 --> 00:35:51,920
healings

1058
00:35:54,470 --> 00:35:53,200
well let's hit on that for a second

1059
00:35:56,069 --> 00:35:54,480
let's sit on this idea of the healing

1060
00:35:57,750 --> 00:35:56,079
entity because there's there's balance

1061
00:35:58,630 --> 00:35:57,760
in everything and we get cases where

1062
00:36:00,550 --> 00:35:58,640
it's

1063
00:36:01,670 --> 00:36:00,560
very dark people had not a good

1064
00:36:03,750 --> 00:36:01,680
experience we have a lot of people have

1065
00:36:05,270 --> 00:36:03,760
great experiences but one running theme

1066
00:36:06,470 --> 00:36:05,280
that you've you've at least in your

1067
00:36:07,910 --> 00:36:06,480
opinion i don't want too much for you

1068
00:36:09,990 --> 00:36:07,920
that you've stated before and come out

1069
00:36:11,750 --> 00:36:10,000
with as josh casey here is pointing out

1070
00:36:13,030 --> 00:36:11,760
is that when it comes to healing stuff

1071
00:36:15,270 --> 00:36:13,040
like what happened with chris bledsoe

1072
00:36:17,430 --> 00:36:15,280
and his crohn's disease you

1073
00:36:18,630 --> 00:36:17,440
feel uh if i'm understanding you

1074
00:36:19,349 --> 00:36:18,640
correctly some of your writing and some

1075
00:36:21,349 --> 00:36:19,359
of the other things i've heard you

1076
00:36:25,030 --> 00:36:21,359
talking before that the healing seems to

1077
00:36:28,470 --> 00:36:25,040
be a major com proponent of this

1078
00:36:30,630 --> 00:36:28,480
abduction or contact uh so would you

1079
00:36:32,630 --> 00:36:30,640
look would you care to i guess expound

1080
00:36:34,150 --> 00:36:32,640
upon that a little more oh i would love

1081
00:36:35,990 --> 00:36:34,160
to because yeah i came into this field

1082
00:36:38,550 --> 00:36:36,000
i'm like what people are being kidnapped

1083
00:36:39,589 --> 00:36:38,560
by aliens they're being abducted against

1084
00:36:41,349 --> 00:36:39,599
their will

1085
00:36:44,069 --> 00:36:41,359
you know stripped of their clothes laid

1086
00:36:46,790 --> 00:36:44,079
out on a cold table and poked at and

1087
00:36:48,069 --> 00:36:46,800
experimented on by bug-like aliens this

1088
00:36:49,349 --> 00:36:48,079
is bad

1089
00:36:52,230 --> 00:36:49,359
this is

1090
00:36:52,950 --> 00:36:52,240
a bad thing for humanity no bones about

1091
00:36:54,710 --> 00:36:52,960
it

1092
00:36:56,950 --> 00:36:54,720
and

1093
00:36:58,310 --> 00:36:56,960
i still have some trouble so

1094
00:37:00,630 --> 00:36:58,320
rationalizing the whole you know

1095
00:37:02,230 --> 00:37:00,640
abduction phenomena like

1096
00:37:04,230 --> 00:37:02,240
but then i started to you know take a

1097
00:37:06,230 --> 00:37:04,240
step back and really look at it like

1098
00:37:08,630 --> 00:37:06,240
what actually happens to people when

1099
00:37:11,670 --> 00:37:08,640
they are taken on board

1100
00:37:14,230 --> 00:37:11,680
and i don't find really any cases at all

1101
00:37:16,790 --> 00:37:14,240
of what i would call deliberate

1102
00:37:18,150 --> 00:37:16,800
sadistic behavior on the part of the

1103
00:37:20,470 --> 00:37:18,160
et's

1104
00:37:23,910 --> 00:37:20,480
or torture or like wanting to hurt you

1105
00:37:26,710 --> 00:37:23,920
or scare you or i'm going to hurt no

1106
00:37:30,310 --> 00:37:26,720
they don't do that not at all in fact

1107
00:37:34,470 --> 00:37:30,320
the first words almost always

1108
00:37:35,349 --> 00:37:34,480
as a rule is don't be afraid have no

1109
00:37:37,430 --> 00:37:35,359
fear

1110
00:37:38,550 --> 00:37:37,440
we won't hurt you we're not here to harm

1111
00:37:40,470 --> 00:37:38,560
you

1112
00:37:41,829 --> 00:37:40,480
do not be afraid

1113
00:37:43,910 --> 00:37:41,839
over and over and over and over again

1114
00:37:46,630 --> 00:37:43,920
they say that i'm like huh

1115
00:37:47,750 --> 00:37:46,640
and yeah people are pulled on board

1116
00:38:00,069 --> 00:37:47,760
and

1117
00:38:00,790 --> 00:38:00,079
why you might think this is not good for

1118
00:38:02,550 --> 00:38:00,800
you

1119
00:38:05,670 --> 00:38:02,560
especially if they pull out a needle and

1120
00:38:07,510 --> 00:38:05,680
they're like we you know yeah

1121
00:38:09,670 --> 00:38:07,520
nobody likes

1122
00:38:12,870 --> 00:38:09,680
but i'm looking at him like huh i'm

1123
00:38:14,310 --> 00:38:12,880
starting to get a lot of healing cases

1124
00:38:15,349 --> 00:38:14,320
that's that's

1125
00:38:16,069 --> 00:38:15,359
good

1126
00:38:20,150 --> 00:38:16,079
yeah

1127
00:38:21,750 --> 00:38:20,160
that's not bad at all and uh in fact all

1128
00:38:23,829 --> 00:38:21,760
major researchers pretty much without

1129
00:38:25,750 --> 00:38:23,839
exception have healing cases

1130
00:38:28,069 --> 00:38:25,760
even the ones who's like this is bad

1131
00:38:29,910 --> 00:38:28,079
david jacobs takes a pretty dim view

1132
00:38:32,470 --> 00:38:29,920
he's a major researcher

1133
00:38:34,870 --> 00:38:32,480
but he's got a bunch of healing cases

1134
00:38:37,190 --> 00:38:34,880
so does bud hopkins and john mack media

1135
00:38:40,310 --> 00:38:37,200
fiori and barbara lam and

1136
00:38:43,430 --> 00:38:40,320
all of them yeah so i'm like huh

1137
00:38:45,990 --> 00:38:43,440
this sounds benevolent to me

1138
00:38:48,630 --> 00:38:46,000
and then what's this you know that exam

1139
00:38:50,790 --> 00:38:48,640
is the most common thing that happens

1140
00:38:52,470 --> 00:38:50,800
so i'm like hmm okay what's the second

1141
00:38:54,390 --> 00:38:52,480
most common second most common is being

1142
00:38:57,589 --> 00:38:54,400
given messages

1143
00:39:00,390 --> 00:38:57,599
and these are profoundly positive in a

1144
00:39:02,310 --> 00:39:00,400
way at least they are warning people

1145
00:39:04,310 --> 00:39:02,320
over and over again they're saying

1146
00:39:06,870 --> 00:39:04,320
you guys are awfully warlike

1147
00:39:09,270 --> 00:39:06,880
why are you fighting these wars

1148
00:39:10,710 --> 00:39:09,280
um you you're going to destroy your

1149
00:39:13,270 --> 00:39:10,720
planet if you don't

1150
00:39:14,710 --> 00:39:13,280
here's a direct quote from one lady the

1151
00:39:16,470 --> 00:39:14,720
aliens told her

1152
00:39:18,470 --> 00:39:16,480
if you don't stop putting out the greed

1153
00:39:21,030 --> 00:39:18,480
and negativity you're going to destroy

1154
00:39:23,670 --> 00:39:21,040
your planet like we did

1155
00:39:25,109 --> 00:39:23,680
and these are the kind of messages

1156
00:39:28,470 --> 00:39:25,119
that's a profound message to get right

1157
00:39:30,310 --> 00:39:28,480
there right yeah they're saying warning

1158
00:39:32,710 --> 00:39:30,320
against nuclear proliferation warning

1159
00:39:33,589 --> 00:39:32,720
against pollution warning against you

1160
00:39:35,349 --> 00:39:33,599
know

1161
00:39:37,510 --> 00:39:35,359
environmental destruction

1162
00:39:39,270 --> 00:39:37,520
these are positive things

1163
00:39:41,670 --> 00:39:39,280
and if someone doesn't have a strong

1164
00:39:43,910 --> 00:39:41,680
fear reaction and

1165
00:39:45,829 --> 00:39:43,920
this often happens to people where

1166
00:39:48,069 --> 00:39:45,839
they've had enough contact or they just

1167
00:39:48,870 --> 00:39:48,079
get over the fear

1168
00:39:50,710 --> 00:39:48,880
then

1169
00:39:52,870 --> 00:39:50,720
they are treated differently they're not

1170
00:39:54,470 --> 00:39:52,880
paralyzed they do not have their

1171
00:39:55,750 --> 00:39:54,480
memories suppressed they have full

1172
00:39:57,109 --> 00:39:55,760
conscious contact they'll give them

1173
00:39:58,870 --> 00:39:57,119
freedom of movement

1174
00:40:02,390 --> 00:39:58,880
and the et's will be like

1175
00:40:04,390 --> 00:40:02,400
would you like to see the engine room

1176
00:40:07,510 --> 00:40:04,400
yes i would yes i would like to go back

1177
00:40:09,109 --> 00:40:07,520
there exactly and this is not uncommon i

1178
00:40:11,670 --> 00:40:09,119
mean it really isn't

1179
00:40:12,790 --> 00:40:11,680
i run across it regularly and they go

1180
00:40:14,470 --> 00:40:12,800
down in the engine room they're like

1181
00:40:16,550 --> 00:40:14,480
this is how we do it

1182
00:40:19,270 --> 00:40:16,560
you know it's electromagnetism we ride

1183
00:40:20,550 --> 00:40:19,280
the magnetic sheets of your planet

1184
00:40:23,349 --> 00:40:20,560
you take them

1185
00:40:25,109 --> 00:40:23,359
up to the control room the helm

1186
00:40:27,589 --> 00:40:25,119
like this is how we fly you know here's

1187
00:40:29,990 --> 00:40:27,599
the little joystick or actually you know

1188
00:40:31,990 --> 00:40:30,000
we do it mentally would you like to try

1189
00:40:33,430 --> 00:40:32,000
you know sit in the seat

1190
00:40:35,430 --> 00:40:33,440
not unusual

1191
00:40:37,910 --> 00:40:35,440
not at all unusual

1192
00:40:39,829 --> 00:40:37,920
and and people are you know have get

1193
00:40:41,430 --> 00:40:39,839
spiritual messages too there's a very

1194
00:40:42,950 --> 00:40:41,440
strong spiritual

1195
00:40:45,670 --> 00:40:42,960
component to all this that's largely

1196
00:40:48,470 --> 00:40:45,680
overlooked by the nuts and bolts crowd

1197
00:40:50,470 --> 00:40:48,480
yes so yeah i started to sort of change

1198
00:40:51,510 --> 00:40:50,480
my mind about all this i'm like i'm not

1199
00:40:53,910 --> 00:40:51,520
going to say they're all our space

1200
00:40:55,990 --> 00:40:53,920
brothers because they're not

1201
00:40:58,470 --> 00:40:56,000
yeah you know and some people do have

1202
00:41:00,550 --> 00:40:58,480
negative contact and they are perceiving

1203
00:41:02,870 --> 00:41:00,560
it as absolutely not good for them and i

1204
00:41:04,550 --> 00:41:02,880
have to respect that

1205
00:41:06,790 --> 00:41:04,560
uh but the people who

1206
00:41:09,030 --> 00:41:06,800
get over their fear and i see this over

1207
00:41:12,309 --> 00:41:09,040
and over and over and over again

1208
00:41:14,230 --> 00:41:12,319
most people i would say

1209
00:41:16,550 --> 00:41:14,240
do not feel it this is evil

1210
00:41:18,710 --> 00:41:16,560
they really don't and many of the people

1211
00:41:22,309 --> 00:41:18,720
that i've talked to especially the ones

1212
00:41:23,829 --> 00:41:22,319
who are having full conscious contact

1213
00:41:26,550 --> 00:41:23,839
you know not recalling it through

1214
00:41:27,990 --> 00:41:26,560
hypnosis say

1215
00:41:29,589 --> 00:41:28,000
feel like it's their friends their

1216
00:41:32,950 --> 00:41:29,599
family they

1217
00:41:34,309 --> 00:41:32,960
are really excited about it

1218
00:41:35,430 --> 00:41:34,319
well let's do this for a minute because

1219
00:41:37,190 --> 00:41:35,440
what i'd love to do is first of all

1220
00:41:38,390 --> 00:41:37,200
welcome uh many that have come in here

1221
00:41:39,829 --> 00:41:38,400
today we got a busy one in the chat

1222
00:41:42,790 --> 00:41:39,839
tonight so if anybody have missed you uh

1223
00:41:45,030 --> 00:41:42,800
randy cruz welcome uh tammy i didn't get

1224
00:41:46,870 --> 00:41:45,040
to give you a shot earlier uh louis i'm

1225
00:41:49,270 --> 00:41:46,880
sorry lois thank you for being here

1226
00:41:51,109 --> 00:41:49,280
tonight anyone else i missed tim f thank

1227
00:41:52,790 --> 00:41:51,119
you guys so much uh if you guys have any

1228
00:41:54,710 --> 00:41:52,800
questions please put them in caps if you

1229
00:41:56,230 --> 00:41:54,720
can i was trying to get a good base here

1230
00:41:57,349 --> 00:41:56,240
with uh preston before we start bringing

1231
00:41:58,550 --> 00:41:57,359
out a lot of the questions for you guys

1232
00:42:00,950 --> 00:41:58,560
but feel free to start sending them and

1233
00:42:02,550 --> 00:42:00,960
i'll try to keep track of those as well

1234
00:42:03,910 --> 00:42:02,560
um also really quick too i just let

1235
00:42:06,550 --> 00:42:03,920
everybody know in case you end up taking

1236
00:42:09,510 --> 00:42:06,560
off tonight lynn wallington going on at

1237
00:42:11,190 --> 00:42:09,520
uh 12 a.m eastern eastern time zone here

1238
00:42:12,550 --> 00:42:11,200
she will have um

1239
00:42:15,270 --> 00:42:12,560
oh my goodness why am i drawing a blank

1240
00:42:16,950 --> 00:42:15,280
right now a man samantha a moet oh my

1241
00:42:19,109 --> 00:42:16,960
goodness i think it's alright samantha

1242
00:42:20,470 --> 00:42:19,119
moat uh she's on there with her tonight

1243
00:42:23,030 --> 00:42:20,480
speaking of someone who's had a lot of

1244
00:42:24,870 --> 00:42:23,040
interesting uh experiences in contact uh

1245
00:42:26,710 --> 00:42:24,880
she every time i learned something new

1246
00:42:28,550 --> 00:42:26,720
from her so make sure you support sores

1247
00:42:30,950 --> 00:42:28,560
they're always giving us shout outs and

1248
00:42:32,870 --> 00:42:30,960
uh dave scott obviously will be on

1249
00:42:34,790 --> 00:42:32,880
monday through friday and michigan ufo

1250
00:42:37,030 --> 00:42:34,800
settings and paranormal uh welcome to

1251
00:42:38,390 --> 00:42:37,040
the chat tonight uh preston what i'd

1252
00:42:40,950 --> 00:42:38,400
love to do is because you have some

1253
00:42:43,190 --> 00:42:40,960
really interesting stories um that

1254
00:42:45,190 --> 00:42:43,200
you've even in your last book you i mean

1255
00:42:46,470 --> 00:42:45,200
you've always had first of all every one

1256
00:42:48,550 --> 00:42:46,480
of your books have had so many amazing

1257
00:42:50,710 --> 00:42:48,560
stories at them right but is there any

1258
00:42:52,230 --> 00:42:50,720
that have really stuck out to you that

1259
00:42:53,589 --> 00:42:52,240
uh well if you don't mind my asking

1260
00:42:55,510 --> 00:42:53,599
there's one in particular i just got to

1261
00:42:57,349 --> 00:42:55,520
ask about because it's just

1262
00:43:00,470 --> 00:42:57,359
you just don't hear it every day right

1263
00:43:02,309 --> 00:43:00,480
which is the um the mantis being that uh

1264
00:43:03,910 --> 00:43:02,319
the lady saw when she was out with her i

1265
00:43:05,829 --> 00:43:03,920
believe she was was she jogging with her

1266
00:43:08,390 --> 00:43:05,839
dog i believe at the time

1267
00:43:09,670 --> 00:43:08,400
yeah if i remember correctly um but yeah

1268
00:43:11,109 --> 00:43:09,680
if you wouldn't mind just sharing a

1269
00:43:12,870 --> 00:43:11,119
couple of these stories that you're okay

1270
00:43:14,309 --> 00:43:12,880
with and i know we'll start getting some

1271
00:43:15,990 --> 00:43:14,319
questions rolling in in a minute here

1272
00:43:17,670 --> 00:43:16,000
but yeah that one in particular really

1273
00:43:19,109 --> 00:43:17,680
struck me and stuck with me besides just

1274
00:43:20,790 --> 00:43:19,119
got one other one i'd love to bring up

1275
00:43:22,390 --> 00:43:20,800
later but yeah what happened with this

1276
00:43:24,230 --> 00:43:22,400
lady who went out for the jog with her

1277
00:43:26,230 --> 00:43:24,240
with her puppy there

1278
00:43:27,829 --> 00:43:26,240
yeah really neat lady i call her eleanor

1279
00:43:28,870 --> 00:43:27,839
she's want her real name used she's a

1280
00:43:30,950 --> 00:43:28,880
teacher

1281
00:43:33,670 --> 00:43:30,960
okay she goes jogging early every

1282
00:43:35,349 --> 00:43:33,680
morning at 4 30 a.m i don't know how she

1283
00:43:39,430 --> 00:43:35,359
does it but

1284
00:43:44,109 --> 00:43:41,670
and uh was went out jogging outside of

1285
00:43:47,270 --> 00:43:44,119
her home in oh fallon illinois this is

1286
00:43:48,150 --> 00:43:47,280
1996. hopefully in illinois this is a

1287
00:43:50,870 --> 00:43:48,160
tiny

1288
00:43:52,390 --> 00:43:50,880
well no i'm going to say a rural sort of

1289
00:43:53,349 --> 00:43:52,400
area

1290
00:43:54,390 --> 00:43:53,359
and

1291
00:43:56,150 --> 00:43:54,400
she goes

1292
00:43:58,150 --> 00:43:56,160
down her street on another street is

1293
00:43:58,870 --> 00:43:58,160
jogging up this third street which leads

1294
00:44:01,589 --> 00:43:58,880
to

1295
00:44:03,589 --> 00:44:01,599
a little street called kyle road

1296
00:44:05,109 --> 00:44:03,599
i found the exact location i looked it

1297
00:44:08,390 --> 00:44:05,119
up of course

1298
00:44:09,829 --> 00:44:08,400
and uh she's her dog is right by her

1299
00:44:11,670 --> 00:44:09,839
side and

1300
00:44:13,829 --> 00:44:11,680
suddenly the dog stops

1301
00:44:15,349 --> 00:44:13,839
and looks ahead and that caught her

1302
00:44:16,870 --> 00:44:15,359
attention

1303
00:44:19,349 --> 00:44:16,880
uh because she's thinking oh you know a

1304
00:44:23,190 --> 00:44:19,359
fox a deer you know maybe it's a raccoon

1305
00:44:25,349 --> 00:44:23,200
which happened often enough and

1306
00:44:27,510 --> 00:44:25,359
instead she saw what looked like a man

1307
00:44:30,390 --> 00:44:27,520
on stilts walking down the center of

1308
00:44:31,910 --> 00:44:30,400
kyle road a man instills with extenders

1309
00:44:35,510 --> 00:44:31,920
on his arms

1310
00:44:37,270 --> 00:44:35,520
which made zero sense it's 4 30 a.m

1311
00:44:40,309 --> 00:44:37,280
this is a fairly busy road during the

1312
00:44:42,390 --> 00:44:40,319
day by the way but not at this hour

1313
00:44:44,950 --> 00:44:42,400
and so she stops and watches this thing

1314
00:44:47,589 --> 00:44:44,960
and it's taking big long strides and

1315
00:44:49,829 --> 00:44:47,599
it's nimble i mean it can walk

1316
00:44:51,270 --> 00:44:49,839
fast and walks right under the street

1317
00:44:53,270 --> 00:44:51,280
light

1318
00:44:56,550 --> 00:44:53,280
and she gets a really good view at it in

1319
00:44:58,870 --> 00:44:56,560
full you know artificial light

1320
00:45:01,910 --> 00:44:58,880
and it's a praying mantis and she says

1321
00:45:05,990 --> 00:45:01,920
it's 15 feet tall

1322
00:45:07,990 --> 00:45:06,000
and she knows this i know that's crazy

1323
00:45:09,349 --> 00:45:08,000
uh she knows it because she she it was

1324
00:45:10,950 --> 00:45:09,359
right up against the streetlight and she

1325
00:45:12,550 --> 00:45:10,960
could measure it

1326
00:45:15,270 --> 00:45:12,560
and that's the reason she contacted me

1327
00:45:18,870 --> 00:45:15,280
because i do have another case

1328
00:45:20,870 --> 00:45:18,880
of a 15 foot tall praying mantis

1329
00:45:23,430 --> 00:45:20,880
and she'd never couldn't find any other

1330
00:45:25,349 --> 00:45:23,440
case that matched hers except one in one

1331
00:45:26,710 --> 00:45:25,359
of my other books

1332
00:45:28,069 --> 00:45:26,720
i've gotten a lot of praying mantis

1333
00:45:29,910 --> 00:45:28,079
cases but

1334
00:45:32,550 --> 00:45:29,920
only two

1335
00:45:34,230 --> 00:45:32,560
involving a 15 foot tall guy and she

1336
00:45:36,390 --> 00:45:34,240
said it was taking about

1337
00:45:39,030 --> 00:45:36,400
six to ten foot strides

1338
00:45:41,030 --> 00:45:39,040
it had a mottled gray body with really

1339
00:45:43,910 --> 00:45:41,040
long stick like limbs

1340
00:45:47,030 --> 00:45:43,920
a triangular head like a praying mantis

1341
00:45:48,309 --> 00:45:47,040
eyes the size of basketballs

1342
00:45:50,150 --> 00:45:48,319
and uh

1343
00:45:52,150 --> 00:45:50,160
did not seem to see her cause its head

1344
00:45:53,829 --> 00:45:52,160
was pointed down

1345
00:45:55,829 --> 00:45:53,839
and it's scanning the road back and

1346
00:45:58,790 --> 00:45:55,839
forth back and forth

1347
00:46:00,470 --> 00:45:58,800
as if it had dropped something

1348
00:46:01,270 --> 00:46:00,480
and was looking for it

1349
00:46:05,990 --> 00:46:01,280
and

1350
00:46:07,270 --> 00:46:06,000
only a few moments she's about 150 feet

1351
00:46:08,390 --> 00:46:07,280
away maybe

1352
00:46:09,589 --> 00:46:08,400
could be a little closer a little

1353
00:46:11,990 --> 00:46:09,599
farther

1354
00:46:14,870 --> 00:46:12,000
and it walks along the road and starts

1355
00:46:17,030 --> 00:46:14,880
to disappear into the darkness and she

1356
00:46:18,870 --> 00:46:17,040
doesn't turn around and run home like i

1357
00:46:20,470 --> 00:46:18,880
think i might have i don't know i would

1358
00:46:22,950 --> 00:46:20,480
have ran for her

1359
00:46:26,069 --> 00:46:22,960
she runs after it she runs after this

1360
00:46:27,510 --> 00:46:26,079
thing good for her honestly good for her

1361
00:46:29,109 --> 00:46:27,520
that was all the adrenaline from all

1362
00:46:30,630 --> 00:46:29,119
that running see there the runners are

1363
00:46:33,109 --> 00:46:30,640
prepared for life they're ready to take

1364
00:46:34,870 --> 00:46:33,119
on anything at any time

1365
00:46:37,030 --> 00:46:34,880
yeah so if she watches you know she gets

1366
00:46:39,829 --> 00:46:37,040
up to the t intersection there and sees

1367
00:46:41,270 --> 00:46:39,839
it off disappearing in the darkness and

1368
00:46:43,990 --> 00:46:41,280
i believe it turned off into the

1369
00:46:47,030 --> 00:46:44,000
cornfield she runs up and looks for it

1370
00:46:49,190 --> 00:46:47,040
and she can't see it anymore it's gone

1371
00:46:50,950 --> 00:46:49,200
like wow you know did you go jogging the

1372
00:46:52,470 --> 00:46:50,960
next day and she's like of course i did

1373
00:46:54,630 --> 00:46:52,480
i didn't see it again

1374
00:46:56,710 --> 00:46:54,640
like is there anything in this area that

1375
00:46:58,150 --> 00:46:56,720
would attract something like this

1376
00:46:59,910 --> 00:46:58,160
so i don't know you know i was driving

1377
00:47:02,150 --> 00:46:59,920
by the high school

1378
00:47:03,829 --> 00:47:02,160
there's corn fields it's a you know a

1379
00:47:05,829 --> 00:47:03,839
rural area there's not much there but

1380
00:47:09,030 --> 00:47:05,839
houses and fields

1381
00:47:11,109 --> 00:47:09,040
but there is one thing she said

1382
00:47:12,550 --> 00:47:11,119
and uh she says i live about six miles

1383
00:47:15,349 --> 00:47:12,560
away

1384
00:47:17,670 --> 00:47:15,359
from scott air force base

1385
00:47:19,030 --> 00:47:17,680
it's always those air force bases i'm

1386
00:47:21,270 --> 00:47:19,040
telling you what

1387
00:47:24,069 --> 00:47:21,280
it is and she said that i'm like oh

1388
00:47:26,630 --> 00:47:24,079
scott because i instantly thought of the

1389
00:47:29,349 --> 00:47:26,640
case that had occurred four years later

1390
00:47:31,270 --> 00:47:29,359
year 2000 a group of police officers all

1391
00:47:34,630 --> 00:47:31,280
across illinois

1392
00:47:36,230 --> 00:47:34,640
saw this giant ufo just tracking across

1393
00:47:38,069 --> 00:47:36,240
the state right over

1394
00:47:40,710 --> 00:47:38,079
i mean it skirted around scott air force

1395
00:47:42,069 --> 00:47:40,720
base right where she was

1396
00:47:43,990 --> 00:47:42,079
exactly

1397
00:47:45,589 --> 00:47:44,000
i don't know

1398
00:47:47,190 --> 00:47:45,599
i'm so sorry you know as i say jim was

1399
00:47:48,710 --> 00:47:47,200
asking a question really quick too about

1400
00:47:50,069 --> 00:47:48,720
in relation to the story did it ever

1401
00:47:52,630 --> 00:47:50,079
notice her

1402
00:47:54,309 --> 00:47:52,640
at the point she doesn't think so i i

1403
00:47:56,549 --> 00:47:54,319
wonder about that

1404
00:47:58,630 --> 00:47:56,559
no i didn't notice her but i started

1405
00:48:01,030 --> 00:47:58,640
weird and i'm thinking gosh is this a

1406
00:48:02,710 --> 00:48:01,040
one-off you know what i mean like is

1407
00:48:04,069 --> 00:48:02,720
this the only experience she ever had

1408
00:48:06,390 --> 00:48:04,079
because usually when someone sees

1409
00:48:07,990 --> 00:48:06,400
something that close they are a

1410
00:48:09,910 --> 00:48:08,000
contactee

1411
00:48:11,670 --> 00:48:09,920
right and but she didn't want her name

1412
00:48:14,309 --> 00:48:11,680
out there right she didn't just wasn't

1413
00:48:16,230 --> 00:48:14,319
some sort of fame reach or anything no

1414
00:48:18,230 --> 00:48:16,240
she told only her family and the only

1415
00:48:19,510 --> 00:48:18,240
reason she told me because she wanted me

1416
00:48:21,829 --> 00:48:19,520
to know that

1417
00:48:23,349 --> 00:48:21,839
someone else had seen what i had written

1418
00:48:24,390 --> 00:48:23,359
about in another

1419
00:48:26,069 --> 00:48:24,400
case

1420
00:48:27,030 --> 00:48:26,079
which is called the navy medic by the

1421
00:48:28,870 --> 00:48:27,040
way

1422
00:48:30,150 --> 00:48:28,880
another really good witness training

1423
00:48:31,829 --> 00:48:30,160
observer

1424
00:48:32,950 --> 00:48:31,839
yeah because that was another

1425
00:48:34,069 --> 00:48:32,960
again that was the

1426
00:48:35,910 --> 00:48:34,079
the only other one you had right that

1427
00:48:37,190 --> 00:48:35,920
had such a tall encounter with a man as

1428
00:48:38,470 --> 00:48:37,200
being

1429
00:48:41,990 --> 00:48:38,480
yeah

1430
00:48:43,109 --> 00:48:42,000
and it was right by a school which i

1431
00:48:44,950 --> 00:48:43,119
found interesting because i did a whole

1432
00:48:46,870 --> 00:48:44,960
bunch of i did a whole book on

1433
00:48:48,390 --> 00:48:46,880
schoolyard encounters

1434
00:48:50,069 --> 00:48:48,400
because i see this comment here on the

1435
00:48:51,670 --> 00:48:50,079
aerial school

1436
00:48:53,829 --> 00:48:51,680
which was what a major schoolyard

1437
00:48:55,430 --> 00:48:53,839
encounter this i wouldn't what he was

1438
00:48:56,950 --> 00:48:55,440
asking about that's gonna bring up the

1439
00:48:58,870 --> 00:48:56,960
next question for you

1440
00:49:00,549 --> 00:48:58,880
i wouldn't classify eleanor's case as a

1441
00:49:02,150 --> 00:49:00,559
schoolyard encounter but i wonder

1442
00:49:03,510 --> 00:49:02,160
because i've got a hundred schoolyard

1443
00:49:06,309 --> 00:49:03,520
encounters

1444
00:49:09,190 --> 00:49:06,319
aerial school is one of them

1445
00:49:11,349 --> 00:49:09,200
this documentary by randall nichols

1446
00:49:12,870 --> 00:49:11,359
i've been waiting waiting waiting

1447
00:49:14,870 --> 00:49:12,880
there's been trouble behind the scenes

1448
00:49:17,430 --> 00:49:14,880
that's all i know there was trouble with

1449
00:49:18,230 --> 00:49:17,440
funding i don't know something's going

1450
00:49:20,069 --> 00:49:18,240
on

1451
00:49:21,910 --> 00:49:20,079
but i feel like he's it's getting close

1452
00:49:24,069 --> 00:49:21,920
because some of the witnesses are

1453
00:49:26,710 --> 00:49:24,079
really beginning to go public he's been

1454
00:49:28,630 --> 00:49:26,720
going more and more on the radio and

1455
00:49:30,549 --> 00:49:28,640
podcasts talking about it

1456
00:49:32,549 --> 00:49:30,559
i want to see that so bad it's such an

1457
00:49:35,430 --> 00:49:32,559
amazing case

1458
00:49:36,950 --> 00:49:35,440
so let's just say uh in this one uh did

1459
00:49:38,150 --> 00:49:36,960
did you have it i mean that kind of the

1460
00:49:40,230 --> 00:49:38,160
update where we're at right now i guess

1461
00:49:42,069 --> 00:49:40,240
for the uh the april school documentary

1462
00:49:44,069 --> 00:49:42,079
i guess correct there's

1463
00:49:46,069 --> 00:49:44,079
we're essentially just any day right is

1464
00:49:47,990 --> 00:49:46,079
the hope at this point

1465
00:49:50,870 --> 00:49:48,000
yeah yeah because it's it was supposed

1466
00:49:52,150 --> 00:49:50,880
to come out well over a year or two ago

1467
00:49:53,910 --> 00:49:52,160
and it didn't

1468
00:49:55,910 --> 00:49:53,920
and then he just kind of dropped off the

1469
00:49:56,790 --> 00:49:55,920
radar and everyone's like freaking out

1470
00:49:59,270 --> 00:49:56,800
because

1471
00:50:02,710 --> 00:49:59,280
this is probably one of the most famous

1472
00:50:06,309 --> 00:50:02,720
cases certainly in the world

1473
00:50:10,230 --> 00:50:08,230
what's that oh you know zero cool yeah i

1474
00:50:15,670 --> 00:50:10,240
think that he's right that was exactly

1475
00:50:18,950 --> 00:50:17,109
because

1476
00:50:22,549 --> 00:50:18,960
they are neck deep in this stuff they

1477
00:50:24,870 --> 00:50:22,559
are holding captured ufos alien bodies

1478
00:50:26,790 --> 00:50:24,880
the air force knows a lot more than

1479
00:50:29,109 --> 00:50:26,800
they're saying

1480
00:50:32,630 --> 00:50:29,119
and uh many of these air force bases

1481
00:50:34,150 --> 00:50:32,640
have been directly you know

1482
00:50:36,069 --> 00:50:34,160
uh

1483
00:50:37,589 --> 00:50:36,079
involved with these encounters they i

1484
00:50:39,190 --> 00:50:37,599
mean they are implicated that was the

1485
00:50:41,430 --> 00:50:39,200
word i'm looking for

1486
00:50:43,670 --> 00:50:41,440
implicated with this phenomena

1487
00:50:44,710 --> 00:50:43,680
and uh scott air force base is one of

1488
00:50:47,670 --> 00:50:44,720
many

1489
00:50:48,950 --> 00:50:47,680
i wonder about that for sure

1490
00:50:51,430 --> 00:50:48,960
another thing that's weird about

1491
00:50:52,950 --> 00:50:51,440
eleanor's case with the 15 foot tall

1492
00:50:56,150 --> 00:50:52,960
praying mantis is

1493
00:50:59,030 --> 00:50:56,160
that was like a month or less after the

1494
00:51:00,950 --> 00:50:59,040
chicago o'hare airport sighting i love

1495
00:51:02,309 --> 00:51:00,960
that one too i love stuff that has the

1496
00:51:04,069 --> 00:51:02,319
documentation because people always want

1497
00:51:06,390 --> 00:51:04,079
to argue about it and say well where's

1498
00:51:09,030 --> 00:51:06,400
the evidence well when you have

1499
00:51:11,190 --> 00:51:09,040
both footage you have the uh the aerial

1500
00:51:13,109 --> 00:51:11,200
or tracking that's going on you have the

1501
00:51:14,630 --> 00:51:13,119
first-hand encounters and then you have

1502
00:51:16,309 --> 00:51:14,640
those that come through and kind of hush

1503
00:51:17,990 --> 00:51:16,319
the situation back down

1504
00:51:20,710 --> 00:51:18,000
what more do we need you know at a

1505
00:51:22,150 --> 00:51:20,720
certain point you have to ask what is it

1506
00:51:23,349 --> 00:51:22,160
going to take you know at a certain

1507
00:51:24,870 --> 00:51:23,359
point i get that you're just wanting

1508
00:51:27,430 --> 00:51:24,880
them on the front the lawn of the white

1509
00:51:28,870 --> 00:51:27,440
house but that's just not i mean i don't

1510
00:51:31,030 --> 00:51:28,880
maybe maybe it will but i don't want to

1511
00:51:34,069 --> 00:51:31,040
burst anybody's bubble but i don't hey

1512
00:51:35,510 --> 00:51:34,079
you almost did in 1954 they did fly over

1513
00:51:37,510 --> 00:51:35,520
true

1514
00:51:39,270 --> 00:51:37,520
if they had if we had not shot at them

1515
00:51:40,870 --> 00:51:39,280
and you know scrambled jets i bet they

1516
00:51:41,910 --> 00:51:40,880
would have

1517
00:51:44,390 --> 00:51:41,920
i don't know

1518
00:51:46,230 --> 00:51:44,400
but uh i they are showing themselves

1519
00:51:48,390 --> 00:51:46,240
look at the phoenix lights

1520
00:51:49,430 --> 00:51:48,400
yep look at hudson valley look at gulf

1521
00:51:51,270 --> 00:51:49,440
breeze

1522
00:51:52,870 --> 00:51:51,280
look at you know a huge wave over

1523
00:51:55,829 --> 00:51:52,880
withville virginia

1524
00:51:59,589 --> 00:51:55,839
mexico city belgium i could go on

1525
00:52:01,510 --> 00:51:59,599
france had a huge wave in 1950s

1526
00:52:03,589 --> 00:52:01,520
topanga canyon i wrote a book that was

1527
00:52:07,030 --> 00:52:03,599
one of my books the panga canyon wave of

1528
00:52:09,829 --> 00:52:08,230
so true

1529
00:52:11,030 --> 00:52:09,839
you know it's it's funny hitting on

1530
00:52:13,270 --> 00:52:11,040
let's hit on that for a second though

1531
00:52:15,190 --> 00:52:13,280
because i and again like i mentioned

1532
00:52:16,710 --> 00:52:15,200
listen complete novice here with a lot

1533
00:52:18,230 --> 00:52:16,720
so much of this stuff there's so much to

1534
00:52:20,549 --> 00:52:18,240
learn and it's one of the things that i

1535
00:52:22,390 --> 00:52:20,559
love about this is that i recognize that

1536
00:52:24,230 --> 00:52:22,400
i will ne there will never be a point

1537
00:52:26,630 --> 00:52:24,240
where i don't feel like a novice right

1538
00:52:29,190 --> 00:52:26,640
and i kind of like that i i'm enjoying

1539
00:52:30,790 --> 00:52:29,200
this journey so but with the school you

1540
00:52:32,309 --> 00:52:30,800
know obviously heard of the zimbabwe

1541
00:52:33,589 --> 00:52:32,319
incident you have the incident over in

1542
00:52:35,349 --> 00:52:33,599
australia and those were the two big

1543
00:52:36,870 --> 00:52:35,359
ones i had heard of i didn't realize

1544
00:52:39,829 --> 00:52:36,880
until i came across you that there were

1545
00:52:40,790 --> 00:52:39,839
so many other school encounters so i

1546
00:52:42,309 --> 00:52:40,800
mean

1547
00:52:43,750 --> 00:52:42,319
have you had is there anyone besides the

1548
00:52:45,349 --> 00:52:43,760
two that we know of that really has

1549
00:52:47,510 --> 00:52:45,359
stuck out besides the two that they have

1550
00:52:48,950 --> 00:52:47,520
been talked about to you

1551
00:52:50,309 --> 00:52:48,960
yeah well i have to say i didn't know it

1552
00:52:52,470 --> 00:52:50,319
either

1553
00:52:54,230 --> 00:52:52,480
and i've been in this field for 35 years

1554
00:52:56,630 --> 00:52:54,240
and that's a pretty new book so i was

1555
00:52:57,990 --> 00:52:56,640
like 30 years had no idea that this was

1556
00:53:01,030 --> 00:52:58,000
the thing

1557
00:53:03,349 --> 00:53:01,040
and i knew about the zimbabwe case after

1558
00:53:05,270 --> 00:53:03,359
it occurred in 1996

1559
00:53:08,069 --> 00:53:05,280
and for those who don't know that that

1560
00:53:09,349 --> 00:53:08,079
was such an amazing case 200 kids on the

1561
00:53:11,589 --> 00:53:09,359
playground

1562
00:53:14,630 --> 00:53:11,599
it's 11 a.m and

1563
00:53:15,990 --> 00:53:14,640
ufo lands next to the playground aliens

1564
00:53:18,950 --> 00:53:16,000
come out and talk to some of the

1565
00:53:20,309 --> 00:53:18,960
students it's an amazing case

1566
00:53:23,109 --> 00:53:20,319
and i thought wow

1567
00:53:24,950 --> 00:53:23,119
that is cool and then i heard about the

1568
00:53:27,910 --> 00:53:24,960
westall case of course

1569
00:53:30,950 --> 00:53:27,920
which is australia's most famous case

1570
00:53:33,109 --> 00:53:30,960
300 students and teachers too

1571
00:53:33,910 --> 00:53:33,119
and the ufo lands next to the playground

1572
00:53:36,230 --> 00:53:33,920
again

1573
00:53:38,309 --> 00:53:36,240
i'm like wow this is amazing that

1574
00:53:41,430 --> 00:53:38,319
reminds me of the broadhaven case in

1575
00:53:43,910 --> 00:53:41,440
wales also really famous where ufo

1576
00:53:46,230 --> 00:53:43,920
landed next to the playground

1577
00:53:48,069 --> 00:53:46,240
um school officials saw it though it

1578
00:53:49,030 --> 00:53:48,079
took him a while to come out and admit

1579
00:53:50,710 --> 00:53:49,040
it

1580
00:53:52,870 --> 00:53:50,720
always does

1581
00:53:54,630 --> 00:53:52,880
and the kids saw it too

1582
00:53:57,270 --> 00:53:54,640
like huh

1583
00:53:59,589 --> 00:53:57,280
and and uh i did a little search on it

1584
00:54:02,630 --> 00:53:59,599
i'm like oh the crestview elementary

1585
00:54:05,829 --> 00:54:02,640
school case in opa-locka florida

1586
00:54:07,430 --> 00:54:05,839
200 kids and teachers saw it lands next

1587
00:54:10,150 --> 00:54:07,440
to the school

1588
00:54:12,630 --> 00:54:10,160
like wow this is i wonder if this is a

1589
00:54:17,030 --> 00:54:14,470
my sister-in-law saw two aliens right in

1590
00:54:19,030 --> 00:54:17,040
front of stag street elementary school

1591
00:54:21,510 --> 00:54:19,040
and i had another guy who was abducted

1592
00:54:23,750 --> 00:54:21,520
from the playground at school

1593
00:54:25,109 --> 00:54:23,760
like let's look into this this could be

1594
00:54:29,109 --> 00:54:25,119
a thing

1595
00:54:32,470 --> 00:54:29,119
and it was boy was i shocked i mean i

1596
00:54:33,829 --> 00:54:32,480
could not believe what i found

1597
00:54:36,470 --> 00:54:33,839
and uh

1598
00:54:38,549 --> 00:54:36,480
i thought okay maybe there's a few cases

1599
00:54:41,270 --> 00:54:38,559
no over a hundred

1600
00:54:42,470 --> 00:54:41,280
found across canada all across the u.s

1601
00:54:44,150 --> 00:54:42,480
mexico

1602
00:54:46,470 --> 00:54:44,160
brazil peru

1603
00:54:48,630 --> 00:54:46,480
all across south america

1604
00:54:50,470 --> 00:54:48,640
you know it's the zimbabwe case is one

1605
00:54:52,950 --> 00:54:50,480
of several in africa

1606
00:54:53,910 --> 00:54:52,960
across europe england had a bunch of

1607
00:54:55,270 --> 00:54:53,920
them

1608
00:54:57,109 --> 00:54:55,280
china

1609
00:55:00,069 --> 00:54:57,119
australia of course

1610
00:55:01,670 --> 00:55:00,079
new zealand had a case with 400 students

1611
00:55:04,549 --> 00:55:01,680
and teachers

1612
00:55:06,390 --> 00:55:04,559
and this ufo hovered for 15 minutes

1613
00:55:08,710 --> 00:55:06,400
right over the school

1614
00:55:11,190 --> 00:55:08,720
this is absolutely

1615
00:55:13,910 --> 00:55:11,200
something they are doing on purpose

1616
00:55:15,829 --> 00:55:13,920
these are not normal sightings

1617
00:55:17,589 --> 00:55:15,839
uh a question here for you by the way uh

1618
00:55:22,150 --> 00:55:17,599
greetings from portugal question does

1619
00:55:28,309 --> 00:55:25,270
oh i bet if i looked it up um the one

1620
00:55:30,710 --> 00:55:28,319
that comes to mind is one of the most

1621
00:55:33,670 --> 00:55:30,720
probably the most widely viewed

1622
00:55:35,750 --> 00:55:33,680
event in the world ever

1623
00:55:39,030 --> 00:55:35,760
which would be the fatima

1624
00:55:41,430 --> 00:55:39,040
sightings of 1917

1625
00:55:42,230 --> 00:55:41,440
1918 it's 17.

1626
00:55:43,510 --> 00:55:42,240
okay

1627
00:55:45,349 --> 00:55:43,520
which is

1628
00:55:48,230 --> 00:55:45,359
you know been cataloged as a religious

1629
00:55:49,990 --> 00:55:48,240
miracle by a lot of people but there's

1630
00:55:50,950 --> 00:55:50,000
been a lot of ufo researchers looking

1631
00:55:52,309 --> 00:55:50,960
into it

1632
00:55:55,349 --> 00:55:52,319
and they're like well people were

1633
00:55:57,670 --> 00:55:55,359
describing a metallic disc

1634
00:55:59,589 --> 00:55:57,680
and it was giving off heat and it was

1635
00:56:01,349 --> 00:55:59,599
sending down little

1636
00:56:03,190 --> 00:56:01,359
bits of material which we now know is

1637
00:56:04,950 --> 00:56:03,200
angel hair

1638
00:56:05,910 --> 00:56:04,960
and uh really

1639
00:56:06,950 --> 00:56:05,920
yeah

1640
00:56:08,630 --> 00:56:06,960
i don't think i've ever heard of it what

1641
00:56:10,789 --> 00:56:08,640
is angel here can we talk about that for

1642
00:56:12,150 --> 00:56:10,799
a minute yeah i did a whole study of it

1643
00:56:13,829 --> 00:56:12,160
in one of my books because it's

1644
00:56:15,589 --> 00:56:13,839
fascinating there's lots of physical

1645
00:56:17,030 --> 00:56:15,599
evidence people don't realize you know

1646
00:56:19,349 --> 00:56:17,040
yeah

1647
00:56:21,109 --> 00:56:19,359
i mean photographs is one thing moving

1648
00:56:21,990 --> 00:56:21,119
films and eyewitness testimony is all

1649
00:56:24,710 --> 00:56:22,000
good

1650
00:56:27,430 --> 00:56:24,720
landing traces there's a lot of that

1651
00:56:29,829 --> 00:56:27,440
the government documents you know animal

1652
00:56:30,789 --> 00:56:29,839
effect cases electromagnetic effect

1653
00:56:32,789 --> 00:56:30,799
cases

1654
00:56:35,670 --> 00:56:32,799
medical evidence can make or break a

1655
00:56:37,589 --> 00:56:35,680
case it's really good evidence

1656
00:56:40,549 --> 00:56:37,599
but then there's angel hair

1657
00:56:42,630 --> 00:56:40,559
and there are about 50 to 100

1658
00:56:44,150 --> 00:56:42,640
well-documented cases i'm sure you could

1659
00:56:46,950 --> 00:56:44,160
times it by 10

1660
00:56:49,109 --> 00:56:46,960
you were to really dig in and

1661
00:56:50,150 --> 00:56:49,119
i you know i did dig in and i found

1662
00:56:52,069 --> 00:56:50,160
about

1663
00:56:54,710 --> 00:56:52,079
40.

1664
00:56:57,910 --> 00:56:54,720
so it's not common just isn't very

1665
00:56:59,670 --> 00:56:57,920
common but in case after case after case

1666
00:57:02,710 --> 00:56:59,680
all across the world

1667
00:57:04,470 --> 00:57:02,720
stretching back to the 1950s onward to

1668
00:57:06,789 --> 00:57:04,480
the present day

1669
00:57:08,870 --> 00:57:06,799
there are cases where ufos emit the

1670
00:57:10,150 --> 00:57:08,880
substance that's very

1671
00:57:14,549 --> 00:57:10,160
wispy

1672
00:57:16,950 --> 00:57:14,559
like spider webs like cotton candy

1673
00:57:20,470 --> 00:57:16,960
that's sort of like silly string

1674
00:57:23,349 --> 00:57:20,480
type of thing uh it often melts or

1675
00:57:25,270 --> 00:57:23,359
dissolves upon contact

1676
00:57:27,030 --> 00:57:25,280
and uh there are some really famous

1677
00:57:30,069 --> 00:57:27,040
cases like

1678
00:57:31,510 --> 00:57:30,079
jerome high school in marysville ohio

1679
00:57:33,109 --> 00:57:31,520
this happens to be a schoolyard

1680
00:57:36,069 --> 00:57:33,119
encounter

1681
00:57:37,750 --> 00:57:36,079
where some 60 kids are on the playground

1682
00:57:41,270 --> 00:57:37,760
and these ufos are flying around it's

1683
00:57:43,990 --> 00:57:41,280
daytime and they these ufos emit a ton

1684
00:57:46,069 --> 00:57:44,000
of angel hair when i say a ton almost

1685
00:57:47,430 --> 00:57:46,079
literally because it coded the school

1686
00:57:48,870 --> 00:57:47,440
playground

1687
00:57:50,309 --> 00:57:48,880
inches deep

1688
00:57:53,109 --> 00:57:50,319
and actually

1689
00:57:54,630 --> 00:57:53,119
uh about three miles around the school

1690
00:57:56,230 --> 00:57:54,640
itself

1691
00:57:57,750 --> 00:57:56,240
the ufos were putting on a display for

1692
00:57:59,829 --> 00:57:57,760
the school and

1693
00:58:01,109 --> 00:57:59,839
admitted this whether on purpose or not

1694
00:58:04,150 --> 00:58:01,119
i don't know

1695
00:58:06,150 --> 00:58:04,160
right but uh they gathered up bits of it

1696
00:58:07,510 --> 00:58:06,160
actually sent off a sample to lockbourne

1697
00:58:09,990 --> 00:58:07,520
air force base

1698
00:58:12,870 --> 00:58:10,000
who declined to comment took it but

1699
00:58:14,950 --> 00:58:12,880
never said anything of course

1700
00:58:16,630 --> 00:58:14,960
found out later the government was very

1701
00:58:19,349 --> 00:58:16,640
interested and this was one case they

1702
00:58:22,150 --> 00:58:19,359
could never figure out there was some

1703
00:58:23,430 --> 00:58:22,160
pentagon guy major white at the pentagon

1704
00:58:27,589 --> 00:58:23,440
was

1705
00:58:29,670 --> 00:58:27,599
case that really stumped his office it's

1706
00:58:32,470 --> 00:58:29,680
a great case

1707
00:58:34,789 --> 00:58:32,480
and yeah angel hair and they scientists

1708
00:58:37,910 --> 00:58:34,799
have been able to gather samples of it

1709
00:58:39,109 --> 00:58:37,920
and study it and it's weird it's got

1710
00:58:42,230 --> 00:58:39,119
like

1711
00:58:44,309 --> 00:58:42,240
oh gosh boron in it

1712
00:58:46,870 --> 00:58:44,319
really um which is not you know super i

1713
00:58:49,190 --> 00:58:46,880
mean where is that coming from right

1714
00:58:51,430 --> 00:58:49,200
and boron is something we actually used

1715
00:58:53,190 --> 00:58:51,440
for shielding nuclear materials by the

1716
00:58:55,990 --> 00:58:53,200
way

1717
00:58:56,789 --> 00:58:56,000
so that's weird and there's other metals

1718
00:58:59,190 --> 00:58:56,799
in it

1719
00:59:01,670 --> 00:58:59,200
chromium you don't have to look it up

1720
00:59:03,670 --> 00:59:01,680
but magnesium i believe was one

1721
00:59:05,910 --> 00:59:03,680
there's actual you know kind

1722
00:59:07,510 --> 00:59:05,920
kind of rare men metals i mean that ones

1723
00:59:09,829 --> 00:59:07,520
that should not be there

1724
00:59:11,270 --> 00:59:09,839
there's another case real brief

1725
00:59:13,510 --> 00:59:11,280
which occurred one year later almost

1726
00:59:15,270 --> 00:59:13,520
exactly at whitsett elementary school in

1727
00:59:17,349 --> 00:59:15,280
north carolina

1728
00:59:19,349 --> 00:59:17,359
again it coded the playground

1729
00:59:21,670 --> 00:59:19,359
and they sent it were able to gather

1730
00:59:22,789 --> 00:59:21,680
samples sent it off to burlington

1731
00:59:24,710 --> 00:59:22,799
labs

1732
00:59:26,390 --> 00:59:24,720
and they said we don't know what it is

1733
00:59:28,630 --> 00:59:26,400
it might be spider webs we don't think

1734
00:59:30,950 --> 00:59:28,640
so you should send it off to a biologist

1735
00:59:32,950 --> 00:59:30,960
they might be able to tell and they did

1736
00:59:35,270 --> 00:59:32,960
and the biologist said nope this is not

1737
00:59:37,109 --> 00:59:35,280
spider webs it's funny one kid actually

1738
00:59:39,430 --> 00:59:37,119
reached down and put it in his mouth

1739
00:59:40,630 --> 00:59:39,440
before the teacher could stop him oh no

1740
00:59:42,309 --> 00:59:40,640
that's what someone said earlier they're

1741
00:59:45,270 --> 00:59:42,319
like oh [\h__\h] oh yeah champ bailey he was

1742
00:59:48,230 --> 00:59:45,280
like it's just a cotton candy angel here

1743
00:59:50,470 --> 00:59:48,240
no i'm going to recommend not eating it

1744
00:59:52,710 --> 00:59:50,480
do not eat it the kid did not like it he

1745
00:59:53,829 --> 00:59:52,720
said it tasted salty

1746
00:59:58,870 --> 00:59:53,839
oh no

1747
01:00:02,710 --> 01:00:00,950
so to uh josh has a question again thank

1748
01:00:04,390 --> 01:00:02,720
you josh uh he says does preston think

1749
01:00:07,109 --> 01:00:04,400
there are they are trying to put

1750
01:00:08,950 --> 01:00:07,119
downloads in young school children

1751
01:00:11,430 --> 01:00:08,960
their brains are like sponges they all

1752
01:00:14,549 --> 01:00:11,440
seem to be they all seem to be

1753
01:00:16,150 --> 01:00:14,559
to be beneficial to planet and species

1754
01:00:19,750 --> 01:00:16,160
thank you for that question by the way

1755
01:00:22,549 --> 01:00:19,760
yeah i think in some cases for sure

1756
01:00:24,950 --> 01:00:22,559
absolutely 100 percent maybe not all

1757
01:00:27,190 --> 01:00:24,960
certainly the rule of zimbabwe case they

1758
01:00:29,430 --> 01:00:27,200
talked to the kids directly and said

1759
01:00:30,470 --> 01:00:29,440
stop chopping down the forests

1760
01:00:31,829 --> 01:00:30,480
you'll

1761
01:00:34,150 --> 01:00:31,839
do

1762
01:00:36,069 --> 01:00:34,160
lots of people will die your air is way

1763
01:00:38,309 --> 01:00:36,079
too polluted they told another they told

1764
01:00:40,470 --> 01:00:38,319
emily trim you are becoming way too

1765
01:00:42,549 --> 01:00:40,480
technological there's a good way to use

1766
01:00:43,910 --> 01:00:42,559
technology and a bad and you could do

1767
01:00:46,789 --> 01:00:43,920
much better

1768
01:00:47,829 --> 01:00:46,799
i'm like these are elementary age

1769
01:00:49,670 --> 01:00:47,839
students

1770
01:00:51,829 --> 01:00:49,680
what do they know about environmentalism

1771
01:00:54,069 --> 01:00:51,839
or technology

1772
01:00:55,030 --> 01:00:54,079
1990 yeah i think they put that message

1773
01:00:57,670 --> 01:00:55,040
in them

1774
01:00:59,910 --> 01:00:57,680
and that comes up in a few cases one

1775
01:01:01,349 --> 01:00:59,920
lady i interviewed personally

1776
01:01:03,829 --> 01:01:01,359
she got a message

1777
01:01:04,870 --> 01:01:03,839
they said remember this day remember

1778
01:01:06,390 --> 01:01:04,880
this day

1779
01:01:09,190 --> 01:01:06,400
in english

1780
01:01:10,710 --> 01:01:09,200
i think mostly it's just a sort of hello

1781
01:01:11,430 --> 01:01:10,720
hi we're here

1782
01:01:14,069 --> 01:01:11,440
yeah

1783
01:01:15,030 --> 01:01:14,079
you know ufos are real you will and now

1784
01:01:16,549 --> 01:01:15,040
you know

1785
01:01:18,230 --> 01:01:16,559
type of thing

1786
01:01:20,230 --> 01:01:18,240
uh but some of these kids grow up and

1787
01:01:22,390 --> 01:01:20,240
they're like scientists they become

1788
01:01:25,430 --> 01:01:22,400
astrophysicists or quantum physicists or

1789
01:01:27,109 --> 01:01:25,440
ufo investigators one guy from scotland

1790
01:01:28,789 --> 01:01:27,119
he had an encounter on the playground

1791
01:01:31,270 --> 01:01:28,799
with his friends

1792
01:01:33,910 --> 01:01:31,280
and he's now one of scotland's if not

1793
01:01:35,910 --> 01:01:33,920
the leading investigator in scotland he

1794
01:01:38,710 --> 01:01:35,920
wrote ufos over scotland one and two and

1795
01:01:39,589 --> 01:01:38,720
a bunch of other books malcolm robinson

1796
01:01:41,270 --> 01:01:39,599
yeah

1797
01:01:43,109 --> 01:01:41,280
and a few others have become ufo

1798
01:01:45,670 --> 01:01:43,119
researchers

1799
01:01:48,150 --> 01:01:45,680
and talking about it and

1800
01:01:50,230 --> 01:01:48,160
yeah i think they are giving downloads

1801
01:01:52,630 --> 01:01:50,240
to kids but mainly it's just

1802
01:01:54,710 --> 01:01:52,640
i think a very clever

1803
01:01:56,390 --> 01:01:54,720
way to announce their presence to the

1804
01:01:59,029 --> 01:01:56,400
world without

1805
01:02:00,470 --> 01:01:59,039
you know causing religion and

1806
01:02:02,230 --> 01:02:00,480
business and

1807
01:02:03,910 --> 01:02:02,240
everything to collapse and everyone go

1808
01:02:05,829 --> 01:02:03,920
running over the hills

1809
01:02:08,230 --> 01:02:05,839
they'll just sneakily show themselves to

1810
01:02:10,549 --> 01:02:08,240
kids because who listens to kids

1811
01:02:12,390 --> 01:02:10,559
it's true i mean i feel

1812
01:02:14,470 --> 01:02:12,400
i feel kind of bad

1813
01:02:16,549 --> 01:02:14,480
if you think about it when a young child

1814
01:02:19,430 --> 01:02:16,559
has an encounter who do we go to we go

1815
01:02:21,270 --> 01:02:19,440
to our parents right and our parents

1816
01:02:23,589 --> 01:02:21,280
usually i'm getting fed up with whatever

1817
01:02:25,829 --> 01:02:23,599
stories going on and then it's then it's

1818
01:02:27,750 --> 01:02:25,839
just this poor kid

1819
01:02:29,109 --> 01:02:27,760
kind of by themselves on their own and i

1820
01:02:30,470 --> 01:02:29,119
i mean i don't i'm not trying to set

1821
01:02:31,750 --> 01:02:30,480
that up to make the et's a bad guy or

1822
01:02:34,630 --> 01:02:31,760
anything here but like

1823
01:02:36,789 --> 01:02:34,640
that's a lot for a young child to deal

1824
01:02:38,390 --> 01:02:36,799
with no wonder they kind of repress all

1825
01:02:39,750 --> 01:02:38,400
this and just never really talk about it

1826
01:02:42,470 --> 01:02:39,760
too much you know

1827
01:02:44,390 --> 01:02:42,480
yeah my heart goes out to kids because

1828
01:02:45,910 --> 01:02:44,400
often and this is particularly true for

1829
01:02:47,990 --> 01:02:45,920
contactees

1830
01:02:49,270 --> 01:02:48,000
or experiencers or abductees call them

1831
01:02:52,230 --> 01:02:49,280
what you want

1832
01:02:54,150 --> 01:02:52,240
i'll call them contactees

1833
01:02:55,990 --> 01:02:54,160
this field needs some better words but

1834
01:02:58,549 --> 01:02:56,000
at any rate

1835
01:02:59,349 --> 01:02:58,559
experiencers maybe we can use whatever

1836
01:03:01,109 --> 01:02:59,359
yeah

1837
01:03:02,390 --> 01:03:01,119
that's a

1838
01:03:03,029 --> 01:03:02,400
dictionary good word

1839
01:03:04,710 --> 01:03:03,039
it

1840
01:03:06,630 --> 01:03:04,720
my stealth check always is saying what

1841
01:03:07,990 --> 01:03:06,640
are you what's experiencing i know every

1842
01:03:12,069 --> 01:03:08,000
time i put it in it puts it in red i'm

1843
01:03:16,789 --> 01:03:13,990
but the point is these kids are having

1844
01:03:19,430 --> 01:03:16,799
contact at age four five and six and

1845
01:03:20,789 --> 01:03:19,440
seven or eight you know young

1846
01:03:22,069 --> 01:03:20,799
and they go running into their parents

1847
01:03:23,589 --> 01:03:22,079
room like oh

1848
01:03:25,510 --> 01:03:23,599
there's you know i'm seeing weird

1849
01:03:27,270 --> 01:03:25,520
clown-like figures or you know weird

1850
01:03:30,069 --> 01:03:27,280
trolls or you know

1851
01:03:32,549 --> 01:03:30,079
gray people or these guys with big eyes

1852
01:03:37,349 --> 01:03:32,559
the parents are often say oh you're

1853
01:03:41,990 --> 01:03:38,710
ah

1854
01:03:43,109 --> 01:03:42,000
is a message to all you parents out

1855
01:03:45,910 --> 01:03:43,119
there

1856
01:03:48,630 --> 01:03:45,920
for real believe your kids i had one

1857
01:03:50,710 --> 01:03:48,640
lady who did because she had this as a

1858
01:03:52,549 --> 01:03:50,720
child over and over and over again they

1859
01:03:55,029 --> 01:03:52,559
called it the muddy man both she and her

1860
01:03:57,190 --> 01:03:55,039
sister saw it her parents didn't believe

1861
01:03:58,950 --> 01:03:57,200
it and finally her daughter comes into

1862
01:04:00,309 --> 01:03:58,960
her room one day

1863
01:04:02,230 --> 01:04:00,319
you're you know this is now years and

1864
01:04:04,950 --> 01:04:02,240
years later and her daughter's like

1865
01:04:07,670 --> 01:04:04,960
mommy mommy i saw a

1866
01:04:09,670 --> 01:04:07,680
little man in my room and he

1867
01:04:11,430 --> 01:04:09,680
put he touched my arm and she showed a

1868
01:04:13,349 --> 01:04:11,440
scar on her arm

1869
01:04:15,670 --> 01:04:13,359
and her mom's like oh my god she has the

1870
01:04:17,589 --> 01:04:15,680
same scar same place

1871
01:04:19,589 --> 01:04:17,599
her mom does okay because see ben and

1872
01:04:20,630 --> 01:04:19,599
joe by the way ben what's up i see you

1873
01:04:21,670 --> 01:04:20,640
in here tonight bro thank you for all

1874
01:04:23,589 --> 01:04:21,680
the support that you do and thank you

1875
01:04:24,950 --> 01:04:23,599
for having this amazing channel where we

1876
01:04:27,270 --> 01:04:24,960
get the opportunity to talk to gentlemen

1877
01:04:28,549 --> 01:04:27,280
like preston denton himself um because

1878
01:04:29,829 --> 01:04:28,559
this is actually ben and joe's channel

1879
01:04:30,870 --> 01:04:29,839
they're they're great couple of guys if

1880
01:04:32,150 --> 01:04:30,880
you ever get a chance we should

1881
01:04:33,029 --> 01:04:32,160
definitely get you set up with them

1882
01:04:34,630 --> 01:04:33,039
again

1883
01:04:36,470 --> 01:04:34,640
um but they we've been hitting on this

1884
01:04:38,390 --> 01:04:36,480
recently i believe it was uh last

1885
01:04:40,549 --> 01:04:38,400
episode maybe the episode before where

1886
01:04:42,710 --> 01:04:40,559
you have these family lineages where it

1887
01:04:45,349 --> 01:04:42,720
seems to definitely seem to be following

1888
01:04:47,670 --> 01:04:45,359
a family um and hitting on the markers

1889
01:04:49,270 --> 01:04:47,680
you know maybe scoop marks on a skull or

1890
01:04:51,109 --> 01:04:49,280
different uh

1891
01:04:53,270 --> 01:04:51,119
scars that you're hitting on is that

1892
01:04:54,789 --> 01:04:53,280
something that is more than just a

1893
01:04:56,230 --> 01:04:54,799
hypothesis do you feel that there's

1894
01:04:58,950 --> 01:04:56,240
evidence to back this up almost moving

1895
01:05:00,950 --> 01:04:58,960
into a theory at this point

1896
01:05:02,789 --> 01:05:00,960
yeah yeah bud hopkins was really the

1897
01:05:04,789 --> 01:05:02,799
first to put this forth

1898
01:05:06,309 --> 01:05:04,799
in his book intruders like oh this

1899
01:05:08,630 --> 01:05:06,319
follows families

1900
01:05:11,029 --> 01:05:08,640
and because i'm like yeah it does

1901
01:05:12,870 --> 01:05:11,039
because i was getting cases too and uh i

1902
01:05:14,309 --> 01:05:12,880
think that's been very firmly

1903
01:05:16,230 --> 01:05:14,319
established

1904
01:05:19,190 --> 01:05:16,240
that a good portion i'm going to say

1905
01:05:21,750 --> 01:05:19,200
about 50 to 60 or 70 percent of people

1906
01:05:24,390 --> 01:05:21,760
who are being taken on board

1907
01:05:26,630 --> 01:05:24,400
so have their parents or their aunt or

1908
01:05:30,069 --> 01:05:26,640
their uncle or grandparents it's

1909
01:05:32,789 --> 01:05:30,079
following family lineage for sure we

1910
01:05:34,630 --> 01:05:32,799
have cases stretching back three four

1911
01:05:35,670 --> 01:05:34,640
five generations that

1912
01:05:37,430 --> 01:05:35,680
you know

1913
01:05:40,230 --> 01:05:37,440
are supported by actual eyewitness

1914
01:05:41,829 --> 01:05:40,240
testimony and the ets have told many of

1915
01:05:43,990 --> 01:05:41,839
people oh we've been following you since

1916
01:05:46,549 --> 01:05:44,000
biblical times and they showed jim

1917
01:05:47,990 --> 01:05:46,559
sparks he's a really well-known contact

1918
01:05:51,430 --> 01:05:48,000
they showed him images of him being

1919
01:05:54,710 --> 01:05:51,440
contacted and victorian times in roman

1920
01:05:57,270 --> 01:05:54,720
times all the way back to caveman times

1921
01:05:59,349 --> 01:05:57,280
it is absolutely following families but

1922
01:06:01,750 --> 01:05:59,359
that's not the only pattern because i've

1923
01:06:02,470 --> 01:06:01,760
talked to people who have a one-off

1924
01:06:05,589 --> 01:06:02,480
all

1925
01:06:07,109 --> 01:06:05,599
this

1926
01:06:08,309 --> 01:06:07,119
have you ever you know one lady here's a

1927
01:06:09,990 --> 01:06:08,319
good example

1928
01:06:12,710 --> 01:06:10,000
and how i kind of figured out a really

1929
01:06:14,390 --> 01:06:12,720
interesting pattern of contact

1930
01:06:17,109 --> 01:06:14,400
because i kept thinking why why are some

1931
01:06:18,789 --> 01:06:17,119
people having contact and others not

1932
01:06:20,950 --> 01:06:18,799
i was looking at my files it's evenly

1933
01:06:22,789 --> 01:06:20,960
divided between men and women it's all

1934
01:06:24,710 --> 01:06:22,799
different races i've talked to pretty

1935
01:06:26,069 --> 01:06:24,720
much every different race

1936
01:06:29,349 --> 01:06:26,079
out there

1937
01:06:31,990 --> 01:06:29,359
who and they all see and have contact

1938
01:06:34,230 --> 01:06:32,000
and it's not age it's not religion it's

1939
01:06:36,789 --> 01:06:34,240
not political affiliation it's not blood

1940
01:06:38,309 --> 01:06:36,799
type there's all this talk about rh

1941
01:06:40,710 --> 01:06:38,319
negative i'm like

1942
01:06:42,630 --> 01:06:40,720
no i know people who are

1943
01:06:44,549 --> 01:06:42,640
on different blood types who are having

1944
01:06:47,589 --> 01:06:44,559
contact i started asking what's your

1945
01:06:49,029 --> 01:06:47,599
blood type rh negative does turn up but

1946
01:06:50,630 --> 01:06:49,039
then i interviewed this one lady in

1947
01:06:52,150 --> 01:06:50,640
norway

1948
01:06:53,829 --> 01:06:52,160
and she contacted me because i was doing

1949
01:06:56,069 --> 01:06:53,839
research on healings and she had a

1950
01:06:58,710 --> 01:06:56,079
healing experience

1951
01:07:00,870 --> 01:06:58,720
and uh where grace came into her room

1952
01:07:02,309 --> 01:07:00,880
scared the living daylights out of her

1953
01:07:03,670 --> 01:07:02,319
she's screaming what are you doing what

1954
01:07:05,829 --> 01:07:03,680
are you doing and they just didn't say a

1955
01:07:07,430 --> 01:07:05,839
word flipped her around like a rag doll

1956
01:07:10,309 --> 01:07:07,440
put on her stomach

1957
01:07:11,270 --> 01:07:10,319
pressed this instrument against her back

1958
01:07:17,510 --> 01:07:11,280
and

1959
01:07:20,069 --> 01:07:17,520
gone

1960
01:07:21,589 --> 01:07:20,079
and she says they healed my back i'm

1961
01:07:23,349 --> 01:07:21,599
like really she's like yeah i had a

1962
01:07:25,349 --> 01:07:23,359
chronic back injury

1963
01:07:26,630 --> 01:07:25,359
and i could barely work

1964
01:07:28,150 --> 01:07:26,640
like well what do you do for a living

1965
01:07:30,230 --> 01:07:28,160
she says well i used to be an artist a

1966
01:07:32,150 --> 01:07:30,240
graphics artist

1967
01:07:33,990 --> 01:07:32,160
really affecting my job that's kind of

1968
01:07:36,150 --> 01:07:34,000
interesting i've talked to a number of

1969
01:07:38,069 --> 01:07:36,160
artists who had contact

1970
01:07:40,390 --> 01:07:38,079
and then she said something which sent

1971
01:07:42,710 --> 01:07:40,400
chills down my spine she says

1972
01:07:46,230 --> 01:07:42,720
please don't use my name because

1973
01:07:48,309 --> 01:07:46,240
actually my true passion is human rights

1974
01:07:50,390 --> 01:07:48,319
and animal rights i'm an animal rights

1975
01:07:51,589 --> 01:07:50,400
activist in my country i'm fairly well

1976
01:07:53,589 --> 01:07:51,599
known

1977
01:07:56,150 --> 01:07:53,599
and this could affect my

1978
01:07:58,069 --> 01:07:56,160
work if you if this comes out so please

1979
01:08:00,309 --> 01:07:58,079
don't use my name

1980
01:08:03,109 --> 01:08:00,319
i said i'm i won't

1981
01:08:05,430 --> 01:08:03,119
but i'm like wow this is like the fifth

1982
01:08:07,349 --> 01:08:05,440
social worker i've interviewed

1983
01:08:09,349 --> 01:08:07,359
who has been healed

1984
01:08:10,710 --> 01:08:09,359
this happened to john hunter gray

1985
01:08:12,870 --> 01:08:10,720
michael carter

1986
01:08:14,789 --> 01:08:12,880
healed of a blood clot in his leg he

1987
01:08:15,990 --> 01:08:14,799
works really hard against racism was

1988
01:08:17,829 --> 01:08:16,000
commended by

1989
01:08:20,149 --> 01:08:17,839
president clinton

1990
01:08:23,110 --> 01:08:20,159
i just kept i'm like let's look at the

1991
01:08:25,110 --> 01:08:23,120
jobs of people who are having contact

1992
01:08:26,550 --> 01:08:25,120
and i'm like wow there are a lot of

1993
01:08:29,590 --> 01:08:26,560
doctors

1994
01:08:32,390 --> 01:08:29,600
a lot of teachers a lot of musicians

1995
01:08:35,430 --> 01:08:32,400
a lot of police officers inventors

1996
01:08:36,709 --> 01:08:35,440
social workers environmentalists

1997
01:08:38,709 --> 01:08:36,719
you know

1998
01:08:41,349 --> 01:08:38,719
animal rights activists people who are

1999
01:08:44,550 --> 01:08:41,359
doing good work for humanity in some

2000
01:08:46,789 --> 01:08:44,560
capacity are the ones who are much more

2001
01:08:48,070 --> 01:08:46,799
prone to have contact

2002
01:08:49,990 --> 01:08:48,080
than

2003
01:08:52,149 --> 01:08:50,000
your average person

2004
01:08:54,309 --> 01:08:52,159
that's not always true but it turns up

2005
01:08:55,669 --> 01:08:54,319
enough or i'm like huh

2006
01:08:57,349 --> 01:08:55,679
it doesn't pattern like you're saying

2007
01:08:58,470 --> 01:08:57,359
though that pattern keeps repeating you

2008
01:08:59,669 --> 01:08:58,480
have to at least

2009
01:09:00,950 --> 01:08:59,679
you know and that's another interesting

2010
01:09:02,470 --> 01:09:00,960
thing this is what i love that you've

2011
01:09:04,709 --> 01:09:02,480
done too by the way and you've and

2012
01:09:06,390 --> 01:09:04,719
honestly guys i i'm not doing enough

2013
01:09:07,510 --> 01:09:06,400
credit here to credit all the hard work

2014
01:09:08,950 --> 01:09:07,520
the president's put in over the years

2015
01:09:10,229 --> 01:09:08,960
because it's been decades of work that

2016
01:09:11,829 --> 01:09:10,239
you've put in and

2017
01:09:14,229 --> 01:09:11,839
you've put things in a great

2018
01:09:15,669 --> 01:09:14,239
chronological order that we can go back

2019
01:09:17,669 --> 01:09:15,679
to and reference you know like some

2020
01:09:18,950 --> 01:09:17,679
would reference you know jim goodall and

2021
01:09:20,709 --> 01:09:18,960
um

2022
01:09:22,789 --> 01:09:20,719
other ones that have

2023
01:09:25,110 --> 01:09:22,799
documented certain specific areas within

2024
01:09:26,709 --> 01:09:25,120
this this community or the subject and

2025
01:09:28,550 --> 01:09:26,719
they've done so much of the legwork for

2026
01:09:30,630 --> 01:09:28,560
us so for you to be able to kind of

2027
01:09:32,149 --> 01:09:30,640
start making some of these correlations

2028
01:09:33,910 --> 01:09:32,159
where people just look at it initially

2029
01:09:35,829 --> 01:09:33,920
and let's be honest it can be a bit

2030
01:09:37,189 --> 01:09:35,839
chaotic it's like looking at chaos

2031
01:09:38,550 --> 01:09:37,199
theory you know it's like

2032
01:09:40,630 --> 01:09:38,560
what's going on here we have these one

2033
01:09:42,070 --> 01:09:40,640
offs we have these following but doing

2034
01:09:44,470 --> 01:09:42,080
the work that you've done

2035
01:09:46,709 --> 01:09:44,480
it's really amazing to kind of see how

2036
01:09:48,149 --> 01:09:46,719
it there seems to be somewhat of a

2037
01:09:49,669 --> 01:09:48,159
pattern now that's not to say that we've

2038
01:09:51,590 --> 01:09:49,679
we've got any idea what's really going

2039
01:09:54,229 --> 01:09:51,600
on but there seems to be some

2040
01:09:56,070 --> 01:09:54,239
correlation to at least the family if

2041
01:09:58,070 --> 01:09:56,080
you've had an experience like you said

2042
01:09:59,669 --> 01:09:58,080
it might be someone else in the family

2043
01:10:00,470 --> 01:09:59,679
now to hit on what you're saying far is

2044
01:10:02,870 --> 01:10:00,480
those that are trying to make a

2045
01:10:04,070 --> 01:10:02,880
difference in humanity that now being

2046
01:10:05,510 --> 01:10:04,080
something that's coming to play that's

2047
01:10:06,950 --> 01:10:05,520
that's a new one i had not really heard

2048
01:10:08,950 --> 01:10:06,960
of that one too much yet so that's very

2049
01:10:11,590 --> 01:10:08,960
interesting yeah i was really encouraged

2050
01:10:13,590 --> 01:10:11,600
by it and i did find other patterns

2051
01:10:15,590 --> 01:10:13,600
really okay yeah let's keep going

2052
01:10:17,350 --> 01:10:15,600
now this really freaked me out i started

2053
01:10:18,870 --> 01:10:17,360
looking you know when i found out like

2054
01:10:22,229 --> 01:10:18,880
schools

2055
01:10:24,229 --> 01:10:22,239
and i

2056
01:10:25,750 --> 01:10:24,239
know i mean this is well documented air

2057
01:10:27,910 --> 01:10:25,760
force bases

2058
01:10:30,950 --> 01:10:27,920
and technological installations really

2059
01:10:33,030 --> 01:10:30,960
of any kind jim and cora lorenzen

2060
01:10:35,350 --> 01:10:33,040
are pioneering researchers and they

2061
01:10:37,510 --> 01:10:35,360
noticed a pattern right off the bat that

2062
01:10:38,390 --> 01:10:37,520
whenever there was a new factory being

2063
01:10:40,870 --> 01:10:38,400
built

2064
01:10:42,470 --> 01:10:40,880
or anything technological ufos would

2065
01:10:44,870 --> 01:10:42,480
show up

2066
01:10:47,030 --> 01:10:44,880
i'm like wow

2067
01:10:49,910 --> 01:10:47,040
so i started looking into this and i

2068
01:10:52,229 --> 01:10:49,920
found this is so weird this is so weird

2069
01:10:53,110 --> 01:10:52,239
uh prisons

2070
01:10:58,070 --> 01:10:53,120
okay

2071
01:11:01,030 --> 01:10:58,080
yeah i found like 50 cases of ufo

2072
01:11:04,470 --> 01:11:01,040
over prisons low low level

2073
01:11:06,070 --> 01:11:04,480
seriously low level and widely viewed by

2074
01:11:07,590 --> 01:11:06,080
not only guards but the prison

2075
01:11:10,070 --> 01:11:07,600
population

2076
01:11:12,790 --> 01:11:10,080
photographed you know physiological

2077
01:11:13,830 --> 01:11:12,800
effect cases a lot of them

2078
01:11:15,510 --> 01:11:13,840
um

2079
01:11:18,070 --> 01:11:15,520
there's a lot of these weird here's

2080
01:11:21,189 --> 01:11:18,080
another one that just freaked me out

2081
01:11:24,950 --> 01:11:22,870
really

2082
01:11:27,350 --> 01:11:24,960
yeah think of graveyards as you know

2083
01:11:28,550 --> 01:11:27,360
ghosts right yeah but jim and cora

2084
01:11:30,310 --> 01:11:28,560
lorenzen

2085
01:11:32,070 --> 01:11:30,320
had a few cases

2086
01:11:34,149 --> 01:11:32,080
where ufos were hovering over graveyards

2087
01:11:37,110 --> 01:11:34,159
and funeral homes

2088
01:11:39,270 --> 01:11:37,120
and then so did j alan hinek

2089
01:11:40,790 --> 01:11:39,280
who was huge in this field

2090
01:11:43,030 --> 01:11:40,800
had a case

2091
01:11:44,790 --> 01:11:43,040
where a ufo is hovering over a graveyard

2092
01:11:47,270 --> 01:11:44,800
this couple is driving by and they're

2093
01:11:49,430 --> 01:11:47,280
like what's that over the graveyard

2094
01:11:51,030 --> 01:11:49,440
and the guy

2095
01:11:53,669 --> 01:11:51,040
lifts his hand to sort of wave at the

2096
01:11:57,270 --> 01:11:53,679
ufo and it pins him to the car roof and

2097
01:11:59,350 --> 01:11:57,280
he's paralyzed and the car goes out and

2098
01:12:01,270 --> 01:11:59,360
the ufo takes off

2099
01:12:02,870 --> 01:12:01,280
it was doing something they did not want

2100
01:12:04,630 --> 01:12:02,880
them to see because there was all this

2101
01:12:08,149 --> 01:12:04,640
weird fog over

2102
01:12:11,270 --> 01:12:08,159
and raymond fowler had like three cases

2103
01:12:14,149 --> 01:12:11,280
ray fowler's of course betty andreasen

2104
01:12:16,470 --> 01:12:14,159
fame and the allagash abductions

2105
01:12:19,030 --> 01:12:16,480
so i started looking into it and i found

2106
01:12:20,830 --> 01:12:19,040
a bunch of cases i actually wrote an

2107
01:12:23,030 --> 01:12:20,840
article for fate

2108
01:12:24,630 --> 01:12:23,040
magazine about you know ufos and

2109
01:12:26,390 --> 01:12:24,640
cemeteries and they didn't publish it

2110
01:12:27,910 --> 01:12:26,400
i'm like huh that's weird they've been

2111
01:12:29,110 --> 01:12:27,920
publishing all my stuff i'm getting the

2112
01:12:31,189 --> 01:12:29,120
cover

2113
01:12:33,350 --> 01:12:31,199
and then i saw the next issue and it

2114
01:12:34,790 --> 01:12:33,360
turned out another researcher scott

2115
01:12:37,110 --> 01:12:34,800
corelli's

2116
01:12:38,630 --> 01:12:37,120
had beat me to the punch

2117
01:12:40,550 --> 01:12:38,640
because there was this case that had

2118
01:12:42,630 --> 01:12:40,560
just been publicized in

2119
01:12:44,070 --> 01:12:42,640
west virginia where ufos were hovering

2120
01:12:47,430 --> 01:12:44,080
over nafkin

2121
01:12:49,270 --> 01:12:47,440
cemetery and dean memorial cemetery

2122
01:12:51,669 --> 01:12:49,280
and people it was coming so often people

2123
01:12:53,830 --> 01:12:51,679
were actually able to predict and they

2124
01:12:55,750 --> 01:12:53,840
published his article

2125
01:12:57,350 --> 01:12:55,760
but there's they're landing there's

2126
01:12:59,350 --> 01:12:57,360
humanoids being they're

2127
01:13:01,510 --> 01:12:59,360
affecting the graves

2128
01:13:03,030 --> 01:13:01,520
they are actually

2129
01:13:04,950 --> 01:13:03,040
i don't want to say grave robbing but

2130
01:13:06,470 --> 01:13:04,960
that's what it looks like

2131
01:13:08,390 --> 01:13:06,480
wow

2132
01:13:10,070 --> 01:13:08,400
which

2133
01:13:11,669 --> 01:13:10,080
oh i'm sorry i was to say go ahead i

2134
01:13:12,790 --> 01:13:11,679
apologize go ahead yeah that's what

2135
01:13:14,709 --> 01:13:12,800
that's what it looks like in some of

2136
01:13:16,470 --> 01:13:14,719
these cases and they're physically

2137
01:13:20,229 --> 01:13:16,480
affecting the grace these are well

2138
01:13:21,750 --> 01:13:20,239
documented cases there's a lot of them

2139
01:13:24,550 --> 01:13:21,760
and that's just one of

2140
01:13:26,550 --> 01:13:24,560
many like ufo attractors rocket launches

2141
01:13:28,070 --> 01:13:26,560
for sure

2142
01:13:29,430 --> 01:13:28,080
prisons

2143
01:13:30,870 --> 01:13:29,440
uh

2144
01:13:33,189 --> 01:13:30,880
i'd have to think about it for a second

2145
01:13:36,550 --> 01:13:33,199
but there's a bunch of them

2146
01:13:37,990 --> 01:13:36,560
well while you think about that uh

2147
01:13:40,550 --> 01:13:38,000
another question here for you does

2148
01:13:42,390 --> 01:13:40,560
preston think that witnesses anonymity

2149
01:13:45,669 --> 01:13:42,400
has damaged the credibility of the ufo

2150
01:13:47,030 --> 01:13:45,679
field in the eye of the general public

2151
01:13:48,870 --> 01:13:47,040
uh well

2152
01:13:51,110 --> 01:13:48,880
yes and no

2153
01:13:52,070 --> 01:13:51,120
in one way yes because people are like

2154
01:13:53,270 --> 01:13:52,080
well

2155
01:13:54,550 --> 01:13:53,280
you know who are you talking about it

2156
01:13:56,790 --> 01:13:54,560
could be anybody how do we even know

2157
01:13:58,229 --> 01:13:56,800
this person is real blah blah blah

2158
01:14:01,669 --> 01:13:58,239
but on the other hand people are like

2159
01:14:03,750 --> 01:14:01,679
well this person is clearly not seeking

2160
01:14:05,510 --> 01:14:03,760
fame or fortune

2161
01:14:08,070 --> 01:14:05,520
and the fact that they want to remain

2162
01:14:09,750 --> 01:14:08,080
anonymous in some ways strengthens their

2163
01:14:11,110 --> 01:14:09,760
credibility

2164
01:14:13,030 --> 01:14:11,120
i have to tell you i always ask people

2165
01:14:14,149 --> 01:14:13,040
can i use your real name

2166
01:14:15,910 --> 01:14:14,159
and

2167
01:14:19,350 --> 01:14:15,920
back in the day if they're like please

2168
01:14:22,390 --> 01:14:19,360
no don't please no yeah well but now

2169
01:14:24,470 --> 01:14:22,400
many many people are fine with it

2170
01:14:27,750 --> 01:14:24,480
i would say most

2171
01:14:28,390 --> 01:14:27,760
so yeah it's a tricky question i always

2172
01:14:31,590 --> 01:14:28,400
think

2173
01:14:33,990 --> 01:14:31,600
if you are willing to use let your name

2174
01:14:35,430 --> 01:14:34,000
be used it increases the credibility of

2175
01:14:36,550 --> 01:14:35,440
the case

2176
01:14:38,149 --> 01:14:36,560
because if you're willing to stand by

2177
01:14:40,149 --> 01:14:38,159
your account i don't even want to see

2178
01:14:43,830 --> 01:14:40,159
photographs from anonymous sources

2179
01:14:46,950 --> 01:14:43,840
honestly yeah i don't it's just too easy

2180
01:14:48,070 --> 01:14:46,960
to cgi and fake this stuff but a person

2181
01:14:49,590 --> 01:14:48,080
is willing to stand behind their

2182
01:14:52,310 --> 01:14:49,600
photograph and

2183
01:14:53,830 --> 01:14:52,320
you know to explain what happened

2184
01:14:55,350 --> 01:14:53,840
i'm much more

2185
01:14:57,669 --> 01:14:55,360
you know willing to at least take a look

2186
01:14:58,550 --> 01:14:57,679
at it yeah

2187
01:15:00,229 --> 01:14:58,560
uh

2188
01:15:01,990 --> 01:15:00,239
interesting point here and i don't know

2189
01:15:03,189 --> 01:15:02,000
if this is true or not but uh tammy

2190
01:15:04,310 --> 01:15:03,199
finnegan first of all we love you so

2191
01:15:06,550 --> 01:15:04,320
much thank you for always being here and

2192
01:15:08,950 --> 01:15:06,560
supporting the chat she said calcium is

2193
01:15:10,870 --> 01:15:08,960
needed to make element 115 just saying

2194
01:15:12,390 --> 01:15:10,880
now i i don't know anything about that

2195
01:15:14,870 --> 01:15:12,400
but that would be very interesting if

2196
01:15:16,470 --> 01:15:14,880
that is the case

2197
01:15:18,630 --> 01:15:16,480
yeah

2198
01:15:20,470 --> 01:15:18,640
going back to whole angel hair there's

2199
01:15:22,870 --> 01:15:20,480
all these elements in it

2200
01:15:24,390 --> 01:15:22,880
it makes you wonder

2201
01:15:27,189 --> 01:15:24,400
and that reminds me of

2202
01:15:29,030 --> 01:15:27,199
the other uh ufo attractor that i really

2203
01:15:30,550 --> 01:15:29,040
wanted to talk about because it blew my

2204
01:15:32,470 --> 01:15:30,560
mind

2205
01:15:34,149 --> 01:15:32,480
and it just freaked me out

2206
01:15:36,950 --> 01:15:34,159
uh because there was this case here in

2207
01:15:40,950 --> 01:15:36,960
california where a ufo was hovering over

2208
01:15:44,550 --> 01:15:40,960
a uh what was it an iron mine

2209
01:15:47,350 --> 01:15:44,560
titanium mine yes um and it had kept

2210
01:15:49,510 --> 01:15:47,360
landing and the occupant was being seen

2211
01:15:52,790 --> 01:15:49,520
over and over again same day each month

2212
01:15:54,630 --> 01:15:52,800
for three months in a row and uh i

2213
01:15:56,470 --> 01:15:54,640
started looking into it i found a bunch

2214
01:15:57,510 --> 01:15:56,480
of cases there's a case in carnes city

2215
01:16:00,709 --> 01:15:57,520
texas

2216
01:16:02,630 --> 01:16:00,719
where a ufo hovered over a uranium mine

2217
01:16:04,229 --> 01:16:02,640
sent down beams of light

2218
01:16:06,310 --> 01:16:04,239
some of the workers were so freaked out

2219
01:16:08,550 --> 01:16:06,320
they were crying

2220
01:16:11,430 --> 01:16:08,560
and when they finally got to the uranium

2221
01:16:14,390 --> 01:16:11,440
it had been spent or it was

2222
01:16:18,070 --> 01:16:14,400
sucked up it was gone

2223
01:16:20,630 --> 01:16:18,080
and arizona is the leading producer of

2224
01:16:22,149 --> 01:16:20,640
copper in the u.s

2225
01:16:24,550 --> 01:16:22,159
there's like

2226
01:16:26,070 --> 01:16:24,560
20 cases of ufos hovering over the

2227
01:16:29,110 --> 01:16:26,080
copper mines there

2228
01:16:31,189 --> 01:16:29,120
landing humanoids are being seen

2229
01:16:33,430 --> 01:16:31,199
i mean it's photographed

2230
01:16:36,229 --> 01:16:33,440
i have got i put out a

2231
01:16:39,270 --> 01:16:36,239
thing on this on my youtube channel

2232
01:16:41,350 --> 01:16:39,280
uh it's a two hour or a presentation of

2233
01:16:44,149 --> 01:16:41,360
about 50 cases

2234
01:16:46,790 --> 01:16:44,159
i'm telling you they are absolutely

2235
01:16:50,310 --> 01:16:46,800
hovering over mines landing and taking

2236
01:16:51,830 --> 01:16:50,320
our medals there's no doubt in my mind

2237
01:16:53,189 --> 01:16:51,840
well i'll tell you what and we're going

2238
01:16:54,310 --> 01:16:53,199
to take guys here in about 12 minutes

2239
01:16:56,070 --> 01:16:54,320
we'll take a break here at the bottom of

2240
01:16:57,110 --> 01:16:56,080
the hour uh 10 30. we'll take a quick

2241
01:16:58,470 --> 01:16:57,120
five minute break they're famous again

2242
01:16:59,430 --> 01:16:58,480
use the bathroom including yourself rest

2243
01:17:00,470 --> 01:16:59,440
or anything i always like to take a

2244
01:17:02,550 --> 01:17:00,480
small break there i forgot to tell you

2245
01:17:03,910 --> 01:17:02,560
about that before we got started um but

2246
01:17:06,149 --> 01:17:03,920
before we get so within the next 12

2247
01:17:07,750 --> 01:17:06,159
minutes here i would love to hit on

2248
01:17:09,270 --> 01:17:07,760
speaking but you're like i feel like it

2249
01:17:11,110 --> 01:17:09,280
kind of goes into what you're talking

2250
01:17:13,430 --> 01:17:11,120
about here you had a very interesting

2251
01:17:15,030 --> 01:17:13,440
case from some people i believe who

2252
01:17:17,030 --> 01:17:15,040
remained anonymous

2253
01:17:19,590 --> 01:17:17,040
um i could be mistaken on that where a

2254
01:17:22,470 --> 01:17:19,600
craft actually came out of the water and

2255
01:17:24,390 --> 01:17:22,480
and hovered over um a refinery there and

2256
01:17:26,630 --> 01:17:24,400
and seemed to be taking samples do you

2257
01:17:30,630 --> 01:17:26,640
recall this case at all

2258
01:17:33,270 --> 01:17:30,640
yes and no they weren't anonymous

2259
01:17:35,350 --> 01:17:33,280
joy williams and her husband bill

2260
01:17:37,110 --> 01:17:35,360
okay uh this occurred at moss landing

2261
01:17:38,470 --> 01:17:37,120
this is such a weird case i've done a

2262
01:17:40,229 --> 01:17:38,480
lot of spaces

2263
01:17:42,550 --> 01:17:40,239
oh it's so weird i've done a lot of

2264
01:17:43,990 --> 01:17:42,560
research into usos

2265
01:17:47,030 --> 01:17:44,000
for some reason i just got dragged into

2266
01:17:49,910 --> 01:17:47,040
that early on i love it it's so fast

2267
01:17:51,669 --> 01:17:49,920
it really is usos you know unidentified

2268
01:17:53,990 --> 01:17:51,679
submersible objects haven't got a lot of

2269
01:17:55,750 --> 01:17:54,000
attention over the years

2270
01:17:57,669 --> 01:17:55,760
and i was getting reports from the

2271
01:18:00,070 --> 01:17:57,679
beginning off the coast of southern

2272
01:18:02,630 --> 01:18:00,080
california which turned out to be

2273
01:18:04,229 --> 01:18:02,640
one of the leading producers of uso

2274
01:18:07,350 --> 01:18:04,239
reports in the world

2275
01:18:09,510 --> 01:18:07,360
i got 150 cases 150 i ended up writing a

2276
01:18:10,790 --> 01:18:09,520
whole book about this this is amazing

2277
01:18:12,470 --> 01:18:10,800
but this is the only thing sorry

2278
01:18:13,830 --> 01:18:12,480
director for just a hot second but when

2279
01:18:16,070 --> 01:18:13,840
everybody says well where are the cases

2280
01:18:18,310 --> 01:18:16,080
where is it at this is where you

2281
01:18:18,950 --> 01:18:18,320
okay and this is just my little rant on

2282
01:18:22,630 --> 01:18:18,960
it

2283
01:18:24,870 --> 01:18:22,640
someone who has only been in this for a

2284
01:18:26,709 --> 01:18:24,880
couple years looking from the outside

2285
01:18:28,229 --> 01:18:26,719
there were only certain cases that

2286
01:18:31,030 --> 01:18:28,239
you're

2287
01:18:32,070 --> 01:18:31,040
that end up in the main spotlight i'll

2288
01:18:33,590 --> 01:18:32,080
say it that way and this is one of the

2289
01:18:35,510 --> 01:18:33,600
things i love that ben and joe do here

2290
01:18:37,350 --> 01:18:35,520
is that and what you've done i've been

2291
01:18:39,510 --> 01:18:37,360
doing for years is that there's so much

2292
01:18:41,990 --> 01:18:39,520
more out there guys there's so much more

2293
01:18:44,229 --> 01:18:42,000
than what we have on some of the

2294
01:18:46,149 --> 01:18:44,239
well-known shows that cover this

2295
01:18:48,950 --> 01:18:46,159
not to say that those are any less

2296
01:18:50,550 --> 01:18:48,960
important it's just that there is a lot

2297
01:18:51,830 --> 01:18:50,560
out there when we really dig into it but

2298
01:18:54,149 --> 01:18:51,840
unfortunately

2299
01:18:55,590 --> 01:18:54,159
it doesn't always get the the attention

2300
01:18:57,830 --> 01:18:55,600
and the recognition that i believe it

2301
01:18:59,590 --> 01:18:57,840
deserves personally yeah there's a

2302
01:19:01,110 --> 01:18:59,600
reason for that by the way

2303
01:19:03,350 --> 01:19:01,120
there is

2304
01:19:04,590 --> 01:19:03,360
there really is and

2305
01:19:06,470 --> 01:19:04,600
this field is

2306
01:19:08,470 --> 01:19:06,480
infiltrated

2307
01:19:11,910 --> 01:19:08,480
and i mean that seriously if you look at

2308
01:19:14,229 --> 01:19:11,920
the citizen uso ufo groups it's shocking

2309
01:19:16,470 --> 01:19:14,239
jim and cora lorenzen started afro they

2310
01:19:19,669 --> 01:19:16,480
were infiltrated by the cia

2311
01:19:21,669 --> 01:19:19,679
look at look at what happened to uh

2312
01:19:23,430 --> 01:19:21,679
nycap national investigative committee

2313
01:19:24,950 --> 01:19:23,440
of aerial phenomena

2314
01:19:27,110 --> 01:19:24,960
infiltrated

2315
01:19:29,430 --> 01:19:27,120
mufon has a lot of government

2316
01:19:31,350 --> 01:19:29,440
officials in it all the ufo citizens

2317
01:19:32,229 --> 01:19:31,360
group are being watched very closely and

2318
01:19:34,709 --> 01:19:32,239
they are

2319
01:19:36,630 --> 01:19:34,719
infiltrated in some of these shows and

2320
01:19:39,590 --> 01:19:36,640
i'm not going to name names but some of

2321
01:19:41,430 --> 01:19:39,600
these investigators are absolutely on my

2322
01:19:44,950 --> 01:19:41,440
naughty list i know who you are you're

2323
01:19:46,870 --> 01:19:44,960
not fooling me for a second

2324
01:19:49,669 --> 01:19:46,880
calling them out right there that's it

2325
01:19:53,750 --> 01:19:49,679
donald donald menzel i will name him or

2326
01:19:56,709 --> 01:19:53,760
phil class or the arch debunker

2327
01:19:59,110 --> 01:19:56,719
like shut up you know ufos are real

2328
01:20:01,750 --> 01:19:59,120
you're not fooling anybody

2329
01:20:05,990 --> 01:20:01,760
yes but going back to this

2330
01:20:08,229 --> 01:20:06,000
case this usl case you mentioned yes is

2331
01:20:10,709 --> 01:20:08,239
so cool joy williams and her husband

2332
01:20:13,030 --> 01:20:10,719
bill went up to a family friend's house

2333
01:20:15,030 --> 01:20:13,040
this is in monterey bay area

2334
01:20:16,070 --> 01:20:15,040
central california

2335
01:20:17,590 --> 01:20:16,080
and their

2336
01:20:19,990 --> 01:20:17,600
friend's house overlooks the monterey

2337
01:20:21,510 --> 01:20:20,000
bay it's a beautiful area it's fairly

2338
01:20:23,990 --> 01:20:21,520
well populated

2339
01:20:26,390 --> 01:20:24,000
they have dinner and joy goes out onto

2340
01:20:28,550 --> 01:20:26,400
the balcony to look out at the water

2341
01:20:30,310 --> 01:20:28,560
which is about a quarter mile away

2342
01:20:32,790 --> 01:20:30,320
she's a military brat she knows her

2343
01:20:34,950 --> 01:20:32,800
aircraft and she sees something coming

2344
01:20:36,390 --> 01:20:34,960
out of the water it's this bright yellow

2345
01:20:39,430 --> 01:20:36,400
glow and then

2346
01:20:41,750 --> 01:20:39,440
suddenly this giant sort of

2347
01:20:44,390 --> 01:20:41,760
oval-shaped craft glowing bright yellow

2348
01:20:48,070 --> 01:20:44,400
comes out you can see little portholes

2349
01:20:51,350 --> 01:20:48,080
you can see the seaweed coming off of it

2350
01:20:52,950 --> 01:20:51,360
and it rises up about 15 20 feet 50 feet

2351
01:20:55,270 --> 01:20:52,960
above the water she calls out her

2352
01:20:57,990 --> 01:20:55,280
husband and the their house

2353
01:21:00,629 --> 01:20:58,000
you know that their host okay

2354
01:21:02,550 --> 01:21:00,639
and uh they watch this thing go

2355
01:21:03,750 --> 01:21:02,560
along the coastline towards the moss

2356
01:21:05,669 --> 01:21:03,760
landing

2357
01:21:08,070 --> 01:21:05,679
coal power plant

2358
01:21:10,229 --> 01:21:08,080
they have a telescope on their balcony

2359
01:21:12,229 --> 01:21:10,239
so they can see it really close they can

2360
01:21:14,709 --> 01:21:12,239
see little what look like windows could

2361
01:21:17,590 --> 01:21:14,719
be lights they're not sure

2362
01:21:19,910 --> 01:21:17,600
it goes directly to the power plant

2363
01:21:22,149 --> 01:21:19,920
which has two towering smoke stacks like

2364
01:21:24,470 --> 01:21:22,159
200 feet high

2365
01:21:26,870 --> 01:21:24,480
and this darn object goes right to the

2366
01:21:28,629 --> 01:21:26,880
tip of one of the smoke stacks

2367
01:21:30,550 --> 01:21:28,639
and stops

2368
01:21:33,189 --> 01:21:30,560
and it this arm

2369
01:21:35,590 --> 01:21:33,199
comes out of the side of the craft

2370
01:21:37,990 --> 01:21:35,600
so weird i don't know it tastes like

2371
01:21:40,070 --> 01:21:38,000
this i honestly really do not

2372
01:21:42,629 --> 01:21:40,080
uh there's a few that are close to it

2373
01:21:45,189 --> 01:21:42,639
but this art metallic looking arm comes

2374
01:21:47,590 --> 01:21:45,199
out and has a big claw in the end

2375
01:21:49,669 --> 01:21:47,600
a big pink pincers

2376
01:21:52,149 --> 01:21:49,679
and it comes over the craft itself and

2377
01:21:54,070 --> 01:21:52,159
this is a massive arm the craft they're

2378
01:21:57,350 --> 01:21:54,080
estimating just looking at the smoke

2379
01:22:00,550 --> 01:21:57,360
stocks had to be 50 feet across

2380
01:22:02,070 --> 01:22:00,560
so this arm itself is you know 20 feet

2381
01:22:04,629 --> 01:22:02,080
long

2382
01:22:06,470 --> 01:22:04,639
the pinchers alone had to be 10 feet

2383
01:22:09,030 --> 01:22:06,480
and it starts digging into the top of

2384
01:22:11,430 --> 01:22:09,040
the smoke stack

2385
01:22:13,030 --> 01:22:11,440
like as like in so the stack like

2386
01:22:14,550 --> 01:22:13,040
actually going into it or just what's

2387
01:22:16,629 --> 01:22:14,560
being admitted like from the outside or

2388
01:22:18,790 --> 01:22:16,639
is it actually going down and in

2389
01:22:20,790 --> 01:22:18,800
right at the tip and it wasn't digging

2390
01:22:23,590 --> 01:22:20,800
deep you know but it was like scraping

2391
01:22:24,470 --> 01:22:23,600
the sides of the inside of it

2392
01:22:28,149 --> 01:22:24,480
and

2393
01:22:29,510 --> 01:22:28,159
concerned about pollution they're

2394
01:22:30,790 --> 01:22:29,520
measuring what's coming out of here it's

2395
01:22:32,709 --> 01:22:30,800
what i'm thinking and they're taking

2396
01:22:34,629 --> 01:22:32,719
actual samples

2397
01:22:36,149 --> 01:22:34,639
one guy joked he's like maybe they're

2398
01:22:39,189 --> 01:22:36,159
barbecuing

2399
01:22:40,070 --> 01:22:39,199
i'm like uh well can't rule it out we

2400
01:22:41,830 --> 01:22:40,080
don't know

2401
01:22:43,830 --> 01:22:41,840
so like how we smoke our meats with like

2402
01:22:45,110 --> 01:22:43,840
a nice cherry wood out there something

2403
01:22:46,629 --> 01:22:45,120
they're like ah this is that like

2404
01:22:48,709 --> 01:22:46,639
chemical compound right here that

2405
01:22:50,790 --> 01:22:48,719
plastic melted

2406
01:22:53,030 --> 01:22:50,800
i thought it was funny

2407
01:22:55,030 --> 01:22:53,040
but it was weird and you know there are

2408
01:22:57,510 --> 01:22:55,040
lots of cases of ufos i mean there's a

2409
01:22:58,950 --> 01:22:57,520
case the morenci copper smelting plant

2410
01:23:01,350 --> 01:22:58,960
same thing it hovered over the smoke

2411
01:23:03,189 --> 01:23:01,360
stacks and sent down probes

2412
01:23:05,750 --> 01:23:03,199
actually sent probes down

2413
01:23:07,030 --> 01:23:05,760
so i think that's what it's doing so

2414
01:23:08,470 --> 01:23:07,040
so you're seeing a separate case where

2415
01:23:09,590 --> 01:23:08,480
this happened where it sent probes into

2416
01:23:11,910 --> 01:23:09,600
the factory

2417
01:23:13,430 --> 01:23:11,920
like orbs or probes i guess or is this

2418
01:23:14,790 --> 01:23:13,440
would it be yeah or

2419
01:23:16,229 --> 01:23:14,800
okay

2420
01:23:17,830 --> 01:23:16,239
i'm just assuming i guess that they're

2421
01:23:18,830 --> 01:23:17,840
probes i probably shouldn't say that a

2422
01:23:21,350 --> 01:23:18,840
glowing

2423
01:23:24,149 --> 01:23:21,360
orb you're okay

2424
01:23:27,030 --> 01:23:24,159
it's i wonder what the fascination is

2425
01:23:28,790 --> 01:23:27,040
there um

2426
01:23:30,709 --> 01:23:28,800
i don't know do you think again is it

2427
01:23:32,830 --> 01:23:30,719
just chalked up the idea that while this

2428
01:23:35,030 --> 01:23:32,840
stuff's maybe not the best for our

2429
01:23:36,709 --> 01:23:35,040
environment um

2430
01:23:37,669 --> 01:23:36,719
who knows i mean if it's all speculative

2431
01:23:39,270 --> 01:23:37,679
and that's one of the great things about

2432
01:23:41,669 --> 01:23:39,280
this subject is that a lot of it is left

2433
01:23:43,270 --> 01:23:41,679
up to speculation but i think one thing

2434
01:23:44,310 --> 01:23:43,280
we can say for sure

2435
01:23:46,229 --> 01:23:44,320
is that

2436
01:23:47,590 --> 01:23:46,239
even if you have not listening to this

2437
01:23:48,950 --> 01:23:47,600
except this yet wherever you're at

2438
01:23:50,310 --> 01:23:48,960
whatever day of the week whatever year

2439
01:23:52,310 --> 01:23:50,320
it is who knows how far in the future

2440
01:23:54,629 --> 01:23:52,320
someone's listening to this um one thing

2441
01:23:57,990 --> 01:23:54,639
that's for certain is that they are here

2442
01:23:59,030 --> 01:23:58,000
something is here and uh i think to deny

2443
01:24:00,629 --> 01:23:59,040
that

2444
01:24:02,629 --> 01:24:00,639
once you've seen the truth and once

2445
01:24:03,590 --> 01:24:02,639
you've even had a glimpse of it

2446
01:24:05,110 --> 01:24:03,600
um

2447
01:24:06,870 --> 01:24:05,120
that's not i mean that that has to be a

2448
01:24:08,229 --> 01:24:06,880
sad choice because this is an amazing

2449
01:24:09,590 --> 01:24:08,239
time that we're living in and i truly

2450
01:24:11,430 --> 01:24:09,600
believe that

2451
01:24:12,870 --> 01:24:11,440
uh well given that they're so concerned

2452
01:24:13,830 --> 01:24:12,880
about pollution i think that's what they

2453
01:24:14,950 --> 01:24:13,840
were doing

2454
01:24:16,870 --> 01:24:14,960
honestly

2455
01:24:18,550 --> 01:24:16,880
i'm of course speculating but they

2456
01:24:20,629 --> 01:24:18,560
called the police by the way

2457
01:24:23,110 --> 01:24:20,639
did they really yeah while it was

2458
01:24:24,550 --> 01:24:23,120
happening while this thing was there and

2459
01:24:26,470 --> 01:24:24,560
they're like you know this thing has

2460
01:24:27,990 --> 01:24:26,480
come up out of the water the policeman

2461
01:24:31,350 --> 01:24:28,000
was very nice in the beginning until it

2462
01:24:33,750 --> 01:24:31,360
became clear they were describing a ufo

2463
01:24:35,510 --> 01:24:33,760
and then he was not nice he became

2464
01:24:37,430 --> 01:24:35,520
really hostile

2465
01:24:38,790 --> 01:24:37,440
i wonder why they get so hostile like

2466
01:24:40,070 --> 01:24:38,800
that you know

2467
01:24:41,510 --> 01:24:40,080
they're like it's right there he's like

2468
01:24:42,830 --> 01:24:41,520
you're seeing a boat they're like it's

2469
01:24:45,350 --> 01:24:42,840
in the

2470
01:24:46,790 --> 01:24:45,360
air they called the radio station and

2471
01:24:49,270 --> 01:24:46,800
the radio's like no we haven't received

2472
01:24:51,590 --> 01:24:49,280
any reports but i did my research and i

2473
01:24:54,149 --> 01:24:51,600
found four other cases over the moss

2474
01:24:57,430 --> 01:24:54,159
landing power plant

2475
01:24:58,790 --> 01:24:57,440
so same location then yep before and

2476
01:25:01,910 --> 01:24:58,800
after

2477
01:25:03,750 --> 01:25:01,920
so they are watching that closely

2478
01:25:04,950 --> 01:25:03,760
so i i wouldn't suppose we'd be lucky

2479
01:25:07,510 --> 01:25:04,960
enough that anybody got a picture of

2480
01:25:08,709 --> 01:25:07,520
that or anything right

2481
01:25:11,430 --> 01:25:08,719
uh

2482
01:25:14,310 --> 01:25:11,440
someone did try in one of the cases yeah

2483
01:25:15,669 --> 01:25:14,320
and i couldn't find the photo

2484
01:25:17,669 --> 01:25:15,679
unfortunately

2485
01:25:21,110 --> 01:25:17,679
that's okay in one of the prison cases i

2486
01:25:22,870 --> 01:25:21,120
did find the photo and i put it up yeah

2487
01:25:25,590 --> 01:25:22,880
over uh

2488
01:25:28,070 --> 01:25:25,600
san quentin prison

2489
01:25:30,070 --> 01:25:28,080
well that's a wow so that's a prison

2490
01:25:31,110 --> 01:25:30,080
right there that's not even like a hey

2491
01:25:33,830 --> 01:25:31,120
you

2492
01:25:34,629 --> 01:25:33,840
uh

2493
01:25:37,510 --> 01:25:34,639
you're

2494
01:25:39,110 --> 01:25:37,520
there i wonder what the fascination do

2495
01:25:40,870 --> 01:25:39,120
you think and by any chance that maybe

2496
01:25:42,390 --> 01:25:40,880
it has something to do with a lot of

2497
01:25:43,910 --> 01:25:42,400
people that are in a prison a lot if

2498
01:25:46,470 --> 01:25:43,920
you're there most of the time you have a

2499
01:25:48,070 --> 01:25:46,480
life sentence of some sort um do you

2500
01:25:49,669 --> 01:25:48,080
think it has to do with them changing

2501
01:25:51,189 --> 01:25:49,679
their life around and kind of the energy

2502
01:25:51,910 --> 01:25:51,199
that they're putting out because you can

2503
01:25:53,350 --> 01:25:51,920
get

2504
01:25:55,030 --> 01:25:53,360
some people had

2505
01:25:56,310 --> 01:25:55,040
positive experiences in prison have come

2506
01:25:57,830 --> 01:25:56,320
out a totally different person do you

2507
01:25:59,830 --> 01:25:57,840
think that that's part of it or do you

2508
01:26:01,669 --> 01:25:59,840
think they're just observing what are

2509
01:26:03,430 --> 01:26:01,679
these people what does this species do

2510
01:26:05,750 --> 01:26:03,440
you know we're noticing these camps of

2511
01:26:06,950 --> 01:26:05,760
people that are being set up

2512
01:26:08,310 --> 01:26:06,960
what do you i guess your thoughts i know

2513
01:26:09,270 --> 01:26:08,320
that's very broad what are your thoughts

2514
01:26:11,189 --> 01:26:09,280
on that

2515
01:26:11,990 --> 01:26:11,199
yeah i couldn't find any evidence of you

2516
01:26:14,149 --> 01:26:12,000
know

2517
01:26:15,669 --> 01:26:14,159
that like they're trying to help people

2518
01:26:17,590 --> 01:26:15,679
because there are a few cases of people

2519
01:26:21,430 --> 01:26:17,600
abducted out of prison and they put them

2520
01:26:23,189 --> 01:26:21,440
back in their cells no oh no yes come on

2521
01:26:24,790 --> 01:26:23,199
you know that's the worst now listen if

2522
01:26:27,270 --> 01:26:24,800
they're turning people

2523
01:26:28,950 --> 01:26:27,280
you lose but come on could you imagine

2524
01:26:31,669 --> 01:26:28,960
getting loose

2525
01:26:33,110 --> 01:26:31,679
one guy i knew he i contacted him did an

2526
01:26:35,270 --> 01:26:33,120
interview unfortunately i couldn't get

2527
01:26:36,470 --> 01:26:35,280
the audio it just didn't work

2528
01:26:39,510 --> 01:26:36,480
but uh

2529
01:26:40,910 --> 01:26:39,520
he was put in prison for marijuana i

2530
01:26:43,270 --> 01:26:40,920
mean that's a

2531
01:26:44,470 --> 01:26:43,280
non-offense really i mean it's legal now

2532
01:26:46,709 --> 01:26:44,480
in canada

2533
01:26:50,310 --> 01:26:46,719
yeah and uh

2534
01:26:51,669 --> 01:26:50,320
he was taken out of his cell and put

2535
01:26:53,590 --> 01:26:51,679
back

2536
01:26:56,070 --> 01:26:53,600
you know i think the et's are

2537
01:26:59,430 --> 01:26:56,080
like what the heck no the colorado

2538
01:27:00,310 --> 01:26:59,440
prison was visited four or five times

2539
01:27:02,310 --> 01:27:00,320
wow

2540
01:27:04,070 --> 01:27:02,320
um i think they're looking at like what

2541
01:27:06,470 --> 01:27:04,080
are these electrified fences what are

2542
01:27:09,669 --> 01:27:06,480
these walls and oh my god why are these

2543
01:27:11,990 --> 01:27:09,679
people have guns these towers

2544
01:27:14,550 --> 01:27:12,000
oh my gosh the clothing taste is

2545
01:27:17,030 --> 01:27:14,560
terrible we got brown orange that's just

2546
01:27:18,470 --> 01:27:17,040
ridiculous

2547
01:27:19,590 --> 01:27:18,480
um really quick thing because we got

2548
01:27:21,910 --> 01:27:19,600
about two minutes where we take a quick

2549
01:27:24,310 --> 01:27:21,920
break here um we have another question

2550
01:27:26,390 --> 01:27:24,320
off the lobe wants to survey hot spots

2551
01:27:29,110 --> 01:27:26,400
and i believe catalina is a big

2552
01:27:31,430 --> 01:27:29,120
candidate what does preston make of the

2553
01:27:33,430 --> 01:27:31,440
galileo project and its mission would

2554
01:27:35,910 --> 01:27:33,440
press then collaborate with the gala leo

2555
01:27:38,709 --> 01:27:35,920
project if asked

2556
01:27:40,550 --> 01:27:38,719
yes catalina is a major hot spot and i

2557
01:27:42,790 --> 01:27:40,560
largely put that on the map so you're

2558
01:27:44,790 --> 01:27:42,800
welcome

2559
01:27:46,709 --> 01:27:44,800
but yeah

2560
01:27:49,270 --> 01:27:46,719
i've

2561
01:27:51,189 --> 01:27:49,280
research into that area and i

2562
01:27:51,910 --> 01:27:51,199
am asked all the time to go on tv about

2563
01:27:54,470 --> 01:27:51,920
that

2564
01:27:57,030 --> 01:27:54,480
the area there and the fact there was

2565
01:27:58,310 --> 01:27:57,040
josh gates just did a show on it nick

2566
01:28:00,390 --> 01:27:58,320
sure enough had

2567
01:28:02,070 --> 01:28:00,400
three major sightings

2568
01:28:05,270 --> 01:28:02,080
and yeah i know about the galileo

2569
01:28:07,030 --> 01:28:05,280
project and i'm so excited

2570
01:28:09,350 --> 01:28:07,040
because finally i've been saying for

2571
01:28:10,950 --> 01:28:09,360
years all we need is a little time money

2572
01:28:14,149 --> 01:28:10,960
and effort you know

2573
01:28:15,910 --> 01:28:14,159
put let's throw some real money at this

2574
01:28:18,629 --> 01:28:15,920
and because the government knows they've

2575
01:28:21,430 --> 01:28:18,639
thrown all our own tax dollars at it

2576
01:28:23,510 --> 01:28:21,440
this is this is the big subject in

2577
01:28:25,350 --> 01:28:23,520
government secret government

2578
01:28:27,270 --> 01:28:25,360
and they no no no

2579
01:28:28,790 --> 01:28:27,280
they're lying lying lying they know

2580
01:28:29,910 --> 01:28:28,800
exactly what this is and have known for

2581
01:28:32,550 --> 01:28:29,920
years they're

2582
01:28:33,510 --> 01:28:32,560
pouring money into it

2583
01:28:35,030 --> 01:28:33,520
and

2584
01:28:40,070 --> 01:28:35,040
chips

2585
01:28:43,990 --> 01:28:41,430
you're not wrong though this is

2586
01:28:45,910 --> 01:28:44,000
something that it's clear to anybody

2587
01:28:47,510 --> 01:28:45,920
who's spent any time seriously

2588
01:28:49,830 --> 01:28:47,520
investigating it and and studying it

2589
01:28:52,470 --> 01:28:49,840
like you have yourself the kettlebell is

2590
01:28:54,470 --> 01:28:52,480
a great place and yeah i do support the

2591
01:28:56,149 --> 01:28:54,480
project i would love to be a part of it

2592
01:28:57,910 --> 01:28:56,159
i i'm pulled in a million different

2593
01:28:59,110 --> 01:28:57,920
directions these days

2594
01:29:01,270 --> 01:28:59,120
but uh yeah

2595
01:29:03,990 --> 01:29:01,280
it's such important work this is a place

2596
01:29:05,590 --> 01:29:04,000
that needs to be surveilled for sure

2597
01:29:07,189 --> 01:29:05,600
absolutely agreed well tell you what

2598
01:29:09,189 --> 01:29:07,199
guys we're gonna take a quick just uh

2599
01:29:10,709 --> 01:29:09,199
maybe uh four or five minute break here

2600
01:29:12,950 --> 01:29:10,719
uh to use the bathroom if that's okay

2601
01:29:14,070 --> 01:29:12,960
preston i'll take you backstage um i'll

2602
01:29:16,149 --> 01:29:14,080
just turn some music for everybody for

2603
01:29:18,629 --> 01:29:16,159
just a minute and when we get back i'd

2604
01:29:20,550 --> 01:29:18,639
like to dig into um a rather peculiar

2605
01:29:22,070 --> 01:29:20,560
case involving some some of the

2606
01:29:24,149 --> 01:29:22,080
pregnancies and stuff so if you're okay

2607
01:29:25,350 --> 01:29:24,159
with maybe going into some of that um

2608
01:29:26,229 --> 01:29:25,360
we'll get into that once we get back

2609
01:29:27,910 --> 01:29:26,239
here so

2610
01:29:29,430 --> 01:29:27,920
preston thank you very much as our guest

2611
01:29:31,189 --> 01:29:29,440
tonight i'm gonna take you backstage

2612
01:29:33,590 --> 01:29:31,199
here for just a moment

2613
01:29:34,790 --> 01:29:33,600
and guys i will be right back uh so if

2614
01:29:37,669 --> 01:29:34,800
you gotta get a drink whatever you're

2615
01:29:38,870 --> 01:29:37,679
having tonight uh someone said reese's

2616
01:29:40,229 --> 01:29:38,880
uh you know what that's enough for me i

2617
01:29:41,430 --> 01:29:40,239
want to say suss on that you guys know

2618
01:29:42,709 --> 01:29:41,440
what that means everybody gets to have a

2619
01:29:45,189 --> 01:29:42,719
drink of whatever you're sipping on

2620
01:29:47,990 --> 01:29:45,199
tonight and we will get this set up for

2621
01:29:50,980 --> 01:29:48,000
you guys behind the scenes and i will be

2622
01:30:25,640 --> 01:29:50,990
right back

2623
01:32:05,110 --> 01:30:37,660
[Music]

2624
01:32:09,270 --> 01:32:08,070
all righty guys and we are back oh i'm

2625
01:32:11,030 --> 01:32:09,280
sorry president i should have let you

2626
01:32:12,470 --> 01:32:11,040
know that i apologize for i just had you

2627
01:32:13,350 --> 01:32:12,480
pop back on

2628
01:32:14,390 --> 01:32:13,360
i was just saying i don't know if you

2629
01:32:15,830 --> 01:32:14,400
can see the comments there or not

2630
01:32:17,270 --> 01:32:15,840
everybody on the right you can you

2631
01:32:18,709 --> 01:32:17,280
should be able to perhaps see that on

2632
01:32:20,149 --> 01:32:18,719
the right there uh everybody's having a

2633
01:32:22,070 --> 01:32:20,159
good time tonight

2634
01:32:24,149 --> 01:32:22,080
uh we appreciate it very much i love

2635
01:32:25,590 --> 01:32:24,159
that uh i love that sunny over there the

2636
01:32:26,390 --> 01:32:25,600
paranormal chop shop guys go check him

2637
01:32:29,350 --> 01:32:26,400
out

2638
01:32:32,070 --> 01:32:29,360
willie well he's gone that's how you do

2639
01:32:34,390 --> 01:32:32,080
it that's what real friends do

2640
01:32:36,310 --> 01:32:34,400
yeah i was just checking out the chat

2641
01:32:39,510 --> 01:32:36,320
uh everything in here is always a great

2642
01:32:41,430 --> 01:32:39,520
time and everybody's uh having a really

2643
01:32:43,189 --> 01:32:41,440
oh yeah you were in here commenting okay

2644
01:32:44,470 --> 01:32:43,199
there we go i was just about to say i

2645
01:32:46,070 --> 01:32:44,480
was like wait this guy stole your

2646
01:32:48,470 --> 01:32:46,080
picture my goodness i'll figure out how

2647
01:32:50,310 --> 01:32:48,480
technology works one day guys

2648
01:32:52,149 --> 01:32:50,320
um so yeah so let's let's jump right

2649
01:32:53,510 --> 01:32:52,159
back into this um

2650
01:32:55,270 --> 01:32:53,520
there's a whole other side to this

2651
01:32:57,510 --> 01:32:55,280
contact stuff that gets

2652
01:32:59,270 --> 01:32:57,520
let's be honest it's like there's stages

2653
01:33:00,390 --> 01:32:59,280
to all of this right if you can get

2654
01:33:02,070 --> 01:33:00,400
someone to accept the idea that okay

2655
01:33:04,709 --> 01:33:02,080
maybe maybe there are some visitations

2656
01:33:08,390 --> 01:33:04,719
going on maybe there is some contact but

2657
01:33:11,189 --> 01:33:08,400
then there's the next level uh which is

2658
01:33:13,430 --> 01:33:11,199
possible imp you know pregnation and and

2659
01:33:15,270 --> 01:33:13,440
and whatnot so do you have any stories

2660
01:33:17,189 --> 01:33:15,280
in relation to that that would kind of

2661
01:33:18,950 --> 01:33:17,199
support this hypothesis that someone

2662
01:33:21,270 --> 01:33:18,960
have said and peppa h welcome to the

2663
01:33:23,350 --> 01:33:21,280
chat tonight uh but kind of you coming

2664
01:33:24,870 --> 01:33:23,360
in laying like that so i'm just we love

2665
01:33:26,229 --> 01:33:24,880
giving so around here anytime if

2666
01:33:27,270 --> 01:33:26,239
somebody says suss in the chat or if you

2667
01:33:28,470 --> 01:33:27,280
see me doing this that's because

2668
01:33:29,750 --> 01:33:28,480
somebody said it we take a sip of

2669
01:33:31,270 --> 01:33:29,760
whatever we're drinking for the night so

2670
01:33:33,510 --> 01:33:31,280
that's all that's about

2671
01:33:35,350 --> 01:33:33,520
uh peppa h we appreciate you coming in

2672
01:33:37,910 --> 01:33:35,360
but yeah let's let's dig into this uh

2673
01:33:39,990 --> 01:33:37,920
this part of it that can be a bit

2674
01:33:41,030 --> 01:33:40,000
um a bit much sometimes i'll be honest

2675
01:33:42,790 --> 01:33:41,040
when i first started hearing about it

2676
01:33:44,870 --> 01:33:42,800
was like this is a lot to take in i

2677
01:33:47,350 --> 01:33:44,880
don't know how to process it really

2678
01:33:49,350 --> 01:33:47,360
yeah alien babies ugh

2679
01:33:51,110 --> 01:33:49,360
i cringe when i have to talk to skeptics

2680
01:33:52,950 --> 01:33:51,120
about this

2681
01:33:53,370 --> 01:33:52,960
oh my god this is not going to be easy

2682
01:33:54,470 --> 01:33:53,380
for them

2683
01:33:55,350 --> 01:33:54,480
[Laughter]

2684
01:33:57,830 --> 01:33:55,360
and

2685
01:33:59,510 --> 01:33:57,840
this was not a thing when i got into

2686
01:34:02,629 --> 01:33:59,520
this field

2687
01:34:04,629 --> 01:34:02,639
and i had a case and i'm like oh no what

2688
01:34:06,149 --> 01:34:04,639
am i what am i gonna make of this this

2689
01:34:07,350 --> 01:34:06,159
is some one of the ladies at work her

2690
01:34:10,310 --> 01:34:07,360
daughter

2691
01:34:11,830 --> 01:34:10,320
had a gray come into her bedroom

2692
01:34:13,430 --> 01:34:11,840
and said you need to come with us and

2693
01:34:15,590 --> 01:34:13,440
her daughter's like no

2694
01:34:17,030 --> 01:34:15,600
i can't go i've got a job i've got a

2695
01:34:18,390 --> 01:34:17,040
boyfriend

2696
01:34:19,669 --> 01:34:18,400
they're like you're coming with us don't

2697
01:34:21,669 --> 01:34:19,679
be afraid

2698
01:34:23,030 --> 01:34:21,679
and next thing she knows she's in border

2699
01:34:25,110 --> 01:34:23,040
you apple

2700
01:34:26,550 --> 01:34:25,120
these are grays she said i'm like what

2701
01:34:28,390 --> 01:34:26,560
did they look like she said i honestly

2702
01:34:30,149 --> 01:34:28,400
can't tell you they were very scary

2703
01:34:31,430 --> 01:34:30,159
looking they had dark eyes

2704
01:34:33,669 --> 01:34:31,440
great skin

2705
01:34:35,510 --> 01:34:33,679
it looked like a leather glove it was

2706
01:34:38,149 --> 01:34:35,520
really scary they said we're going to

2707
01:34:41,189 --> 01:34:38,159
cut your arm

2708
01:34:43,430 --> 01:34:41,199
she said no please don't don't no

2709
01:34:44,950 --> 01:34:43,440
and they did she showed me the scar like

2710
01:34:46,470 --> 01:34:44,960
the next day

2711
01:34:48,229 --> 01:34:46,480
and it was already healed over and they

2712
01:34:50,149 --> 01:34:48,239
said well we now need to do an operation

2713
01:34:52,790 --> 01:34:50,159
on your brain

2714
01:34:55,350 --> 01:34:52,800
that center over the edge obviously

2715
01:34:57,590 --> 01:34:55,360
no kidding i mean um and uh yeah she

2716
01:34:59,109 --> 01:34:57,600
ended up passing out and waking up the

2717
01:35:01,430 --> 01:34:59,119
next morning that was the first

2718
01:35:03,109 --> 01:35:01,440
encounter there were more

2719
01:35:05,030 --> 01:35:03,119
she eventually kind of turned around she

2720
01:35:07,189 --> 01:35:05,040
said she feels the religious they gave

2721
01:35:10,550 --> 01:35:07,199
her predictions about

2722
01:35:15,270 --> 01:35:12,790
her boyfriend you know

2723
01:35:17,030 --> 01:35:15,280
things like this talked about her life

2724
01:35:18,629 --> 01:35:17,040
at church

2725
01:35:20,149 --> 01:35:18,639
and she did not think that they were

2726
01:35:21,189 --> 01:35:20,159
evil or anything

2727
01:35:22,950 --> 01:35:21,199
but they kept telling her you won't

2728
01:35:25,270 --> 01:35:22,960
remember this and she's like i will oh

2729
01:35:28,229 --> 01:35:25,280
yes i will

2730
01:35:29,910 --> 01:35:28,239
i love it and she did she's very feisty

2731
01:35:31,590 --> 01:35:29,920
as is her mom

2732
01:35:33,590 --> 01:35:31,600
anyway her mom was taken on board and

2733
01:35:36,310 --> 01:35:33,600
was showing all these babies

2734
01:35:38,790 --> 01:35:36,320
some of did not look human and some were

2735
01:35:41,189 --> 01:35:38,800
clearly genetically damaged

2736
01:35:42,390 --> 01:35:41,199
and the lady was a human looking lady

2737
01:35:44,149 --> 01:35:42,400
showing them these to her and they said

2738
01:35:45,590 --> 01:35:44,159
these babies need love

2739
01:35:47,430 --> 01:35:45,600
would you hold one of these babies and

2740
01:35:49,750 --> 01:35:47,440
give it love

2741
01:35:51,430 --> 01:35:49,760
and this is now really well known in the

2742
01:35:54,070 --> 01:35:51,440
ufo community this is what we would call

2743
01:35:55,750 --> 01:35:54,080
a baby presentation

2744
01:35:58,709 --> 01:35:55,760
and they show people like this baby is

2745
01:36:00,310 --> 01:35:58,719
yours and it's half alien

2746
01:36:02,629 --> 01:36:00,320
and i've got case after case of this

2747
01:36:04,070 --> 01:36:02,639
this was my first and it was one of my

2748
01:36:06,790 --> 01:36:04,080
early cases

2749
01:36:09,430 --> 01:36:06,800
i'm like what's going on here and then

2750
01:36:10,870 --> 01:36:09,440
finally you know bud hopkins book

2751
01:36:12,709 --> 01:36:10,880
missing time had just become a

2752
01:36:13,990 --> 01:36:12,719
bestseller

2753
01:36:15,990 --> 01:36:14,000
and uh

2754
01:36:17,910 --> 01:36:16,000
he hadn't put out his book intruders yet

2755
01:36:21,030 --> 01:36:17,920
but that came out and that's kind of

2756
01:36:23,990 --> 01:36:21,040
solidified i'm like oh thank god

2757
01:36:26,390 --> 01:36:24,000
i thought i was the only one mine here

2758
01:36:30,229 --> 01:36:26,400
and uh he's like no no there's alien you

2759
01:36:32,390 --> 01:36:30,239
know hybrid it's a hybridization project

2760
01:36:34,950 --> 01:36:32,400
and i've run into it regularly and

2761
01:36:36,310 --> 01:36:34,960
there's an amazing case you know every

2762
01:36:37,990 --> 01:36:36,320
book i put out

2763
01:36:39,830 --> 01:36:38,000
pretty much about people who are having

2764
01:36:41,590 --> 01:36:39,840
onboard encounters

2765
01:36:43,109 --> 01:36:41,600
there's cases like this

2766
01:36:44,709 --> 01:36:43,119
there's a guy in upstate new york who

2767
01:36:46,870 --> 01:36:44,719
had this happen

2768
01:36:49,510 --> 01:36:46,880
he was not happy they were like hold

2769
01:36:52,870 --> 01:36:49,520
this baby it's yours aren't you happy

2770
01:36:54,950 --> 01:36:52,880
and he felt both and he was felt all

2771
01:36:57,109 --> 01:36:54,960
this love towards this child

2772
01:36:58,310 --> 01:36:57,119
but he's also repulsed

2773
01:37:00,550 --> 01:36:58,320
and he was also

2774
01:37:02,390 --> 01:37:00,560
angry at the et's

2775
01:37:04,229 --> 01:37:02,400
for doing this to him

2776
01:37:07,590 --> 01:37:04,239
he does not feel like this has

2777
01:37:10,470 --> 01:37:07,600
been good for him uh even though he came

2778
01:37:11,830 --> 01:37:10,480
away from it with profoundly psychic i

2779
01:37:14,229 --> 01:37:11,840
mean this guy gives psychic readings

2780
01:37:16,950 --> 01:37:14,239
like nobody's business

2781
01:37:18,310 --> 01:37:16,960
but the case i really want to talk about

2782
01:37:19,750 --> 01:37:18,320
real quick

2783
01:37:22,229 --> 01:37:19,760
is uh

2784
01:37:23,910 --> 01:37:22,239
this couple from canada

2785
01:37:26,629 --> 01:37:23,920
who i just recently got back in touch

2786
01:37:27,750 --> 01:37:26,639
with they're not separate

2787
01:37:29,430 --> 01:37:27,760
but uh

2788
01:37:31,350 --> 01:37:29,440
they were a young couple who had just

2789
01:37:32,870 --> 01:37:31,360
moved to canada she was from europe

2790
01:37:35,270 --> 01:37:32,880
they're having a lot of red tape

2791
01:37:38,470 --> 01:37:35,280
problems with insurance and their new

2792
01:37:40,950 --> 01:37:38,480
home and citizenship and

2793
01:37:42,550 --> 01:37:40,960
starting a career and so forth and she

2794
01:37:45,030 --> 01:37:42,560
became pregnant

2795
01:37:46,790 --> 01:37:45,040
and everything was fine for about seven

2796
01:37:48,390 --> 01:37:46,800
and a half months they're driving over

2797
01:37:50,310 --> 01:37:48,400
to a friend's house

2798
01:37:52,310 --> 01:37:50,320
and had missing time

2799
01:37:53,669 --> 01:37:52,320
they got lost

2800
01:37:56,629 --> 01:37:53,679
and they couldn't understand it they

2801
01:37:58,470 --> 01:37:56,639
know they knew the way it made no sense

2802
01:38:00,470 --> 01:37:58,480
and they didn't think ufo they didn't

2803
01:38:01,590 --> 01:38:00,480
see anything but something really

2804
01:38:04,870 --> 01:38:01,600
peculiar happened they were all

2805
01:38:07,109 --> 01:38:04,880
disoriented and so forth

2806
01:38:08,709 --> 01:38:07,119
and it was a short time later they're in

2807
01:38:10,229 --> 01:38:08,719
their bedroom and there's this huge

2808
01:38:12,470 --> 01:38:10,239
electrical storm

2809
01:38:14,229 --> 01:38:12,480
over their house

2810
01:38:15,990 --> 01:38:14,239
and lightning is flashing into the

2811
01:38:18,550 --> 01:38:16,000
backyard and weird wait i mean it's

2812
01:38:20,390 --> 01:38:18,560
going sideways it was not normal

2813
01:38:22,310 --> 01:38:20,400
and they were freaking out they

2814
01:38:23,750 --> 01:38:22,320
he jumps up and closes the window and

2815
01:38:26,390 --> 01:38:23,760
they hop back in bed they're really

2816
01:38:27,830 --> 01:38:26,400
frightened and boom they're go their

2817
01:38:29,270 --> 01:38:27,840
pass out

2818
01:38:30,870 --> 01:38:29,280
that seemed impossible to them because

2819
01:38:32,470 --> 01:38:30,880
they were you know third adrenaline was

2820
01:38:34,229 --> 01:38:32,480
pumping

2821
01:38:36,470 --> 01:38:34,239
and they wake up it's morning and she

2822
01:38:39,270 --> 01:38:36,480
they're both groggy she especially she's

2823
01:38:40,950 --> 01:38:39,280
like i feel like i've had surgery

2824
01:38:41,910 --> 01:38:40,960
you know she sent me her medical records

2825
01:38:43,510 --> 01:38:41,920
by the way

2826
01:38:45,750 --> 01:38:43,520
um pictures

2827
01:38:47,750 --> 01:38:45,760
uh doctor reports oh so they went to the

2828
01:38:49,750 --> 01:38:47,760
hospital to know like this wasn't just

2829
01:38:51,109 --> 01:38:49,760
them saying hey i think we're pregnant

2830
01:38:52,390 --> 01:38:51,119
no that she was seven and a half months

2831
01:38:54,310 --> 01:38:52,400
along

2832
01:38:55,910 --> 01:38:54,320
so they had blood tests

2833
01:38:58,550 --> 01:38:55,920
they had uh

2834
01:39:00,229 --> 01:38:58,560
what do you call it the ultrasound

2835
01:39:01,510 --> 01:39:00,239
they had

2836
01:39:03,990 --> 01:39:01,520
uh

2837
01:39:05,669 --> 01:39:04,000
felt the baby kicking

2838
01:39:06,709 --> 01:39:05,679
you know they knew that

2839
01:39:10,950 --> 01:39:06,719
the baby was

2840
01:39:12,790 --> 01:39:10,960
this time and she wakes up

2841
01:39:14,709 --> 01:39:12,800
and her midwife is like here's these

2842
01:39:16,390 --> 01:39:14,719
exercises you can do it should encourage

2843
01:39:18,149 --> 01:39:16,400
the baby to move away from her breach

2844
01:39:20,550 --> 01:39:18,159
position

2845
01:39:21,910 --> 01:39:20,560
and uh so she was doing these exercises

2846
01:39:24,070 --> 01:39:21,920
and she wakes up the next morning she's

2847
01:39:25,350 --> 01:39:24,080
like honey my stomach look at my stomach

2848
01:39:28,070 --> 01:39:25,360
does it look

2849
01:39:29,830 --> 01:39:28,080
smaller to you he's like yeah it does

2850
01:39:31,430 --> 01:39:29,840
she says i don't think i'm pregnant he's

2851
01:39:33,109 --> 01:39:31,440
like what are you talking about it's

2852
01:39:34,790 --> 01:39:33,119
impossible she says honey i don't feel

2853
01:39:36,070 --> 01:39:34,800
pregnant

2854
01:39:38,229 --> 01:39:36,080
and you're like well we better go to the

2855
01:39:40,070 --> 01:39:38,239
doctor they had an appointment

2856
01:39:42,149 --> 01:39:40,080
so they i think it was like three days

2857
01:39:44,310 --> 01:39:42,159
later they may have moved it up as i

2858
01:39:46,550 --> 01:39:44,320
recall to that day

2859
01:39:48,950 --> 01:39:46,560
they were gonna have an ultrasound

2860
01:39:50,709 --> 01:39:48,960
so they go to the doctor and the doctor

2861
01:39:52,229 --> 01:39:50,719
is freaking out and he's doing more

2862
01:39:55,510 --> 01:39:52,239
tests and he's like i don't know how to

2863
01:39:57,910 --> 01:39:55,520
tell you guys they're not pregnant

2864
01:39:59,270 --> 01:39:57,920
and and they're like what he says you're

2865
01:40:00,870 --> 01:39:59,280
not pregnant i don't know i don't know

2866
01:40:02,709 --> 01:40:00,880
how to explain this must have been a

2867
01:40:05,189 --> 01:40:02,719
misdiagnosis

2868
01:40:07,430 --> 01:40:05,199
i don't understand it

2869
01:40:08,870 --> 01:40:07,440
uh you are not pregnant maybe you never

2870
01:40:10,149 --> 01:40:08,880
were

2871
01:40:11,189 --> 01:40:10,159
because he could not wrap his head

2872
01:40:13,109 --> 01:40:11,199
around it

2873
01:40:14,629 --> 01:40:13,119
and they knew they were pregnant and she

2874
01:40:16,629 --> 01:40:14,639
felt the baby they both felt the baby

2875
01:40:19,109 --> 01:40:16,639
kicking

2876
01:40:21,510 --> 01:40:19,119
and so they start crying and they're

2877
01:40:22,790 --> 01:40:21,520
really upset and he was more sick than

2878
01:40:24,070 --> 01:40:22,800
she was

2879
01:40:25,830 --> 01:40:24,080
i asked them

2880
01:40:28,709 --> 01:40:25,840
they had to tell their family they had

2881
01:40:31,109 --> 01:40:28,719
built a nursery this is a big deal yeah

2882
01:40:33,990 --> 01:40:31,119
and their families oh my god

2883
01:40:36,229 --> 01:40:34,000
uh because i asked and i'm like

2884
01:40:38,310 --> 01:40:36,239
well do you have any history of ufo

2885
01:40:40,870 --> 01:40:38,320
encounters

2886
01:40:42,310 --> 01:40:40,880
and he said yes i do i've seen them

2887
01:40:44,470 --> 01:40:42,320
twice

2888
01:40:46,550 --> 01:40:44,480
and so has my dad

2889
01:40:48,470 --> 01:40:46,560
your dad huh

2890
01:40:50,149 --> 01:40:48,480
and she's like oh yeah me too you know

2891
01:40:52,390 --> 01:40:50,159
my father's a major psychical

2892
01:40:53,350 --> 01:40:52,400
investigator in europe and i have light

2893
01:40:55,430 --> 01:40:53,360
beings

2894
01:40:57,350 --> 01:40:55,440
coming into my

2895
01:40:59,669 --> 01:40:57,360
room at night that's happened several

2896
01:41:00,870 --> 01:40:59,679
times i'm like oh

2897
01:41:02,790 --> 01:41:00,880
and she says

2898
01:41:06,149 --> 01:41:02,800
you know they they finally contacted me

2899
01:41:07,189 --> 01:41:06,159
after finding out that this is a thing

2900
01:41:09,910 --> 01:41:07,199
that

2901
01:41:11,910 --> 01:41:09,920
people have disappearing pregnancies

2902
01:41:14,390 --> 01:41:11,920
it's usually at three months maybe

2903
01:41:16,709 --> 01:41:14,400
seven months that's

2904
01:41:18,310 --> 01:41:16,719
man yeah let's think anybody who's ever

2905
01:41:20,229 --> 01:41:18,320
been a parent if you once you've heard

2906
01:41:22,709 --> 01:41:20,239
that heartbeat and you you felt the baby

2907
01:41:24,070 --> 01:41:22,719
moving around that's

2908
01:41:25,669 --> 01:41:24,080
that's hard that's a lot that's one of

2909
01:41:27,189 --> 01:41:25,679
the hardest parts of this whole this

2910
01:41:28,950 --> 01:41:27,199
part of the well first of all if you can

2911
01:41:30,550 --> 01:41:28,960
get around the part of it's even going

2912
01:41:32,229 --> 01:41:30,560
on it's it's the

2913
01:41:33,270 --> 01:41:32,239
it's the next step which is well wait a

2914
01:41:34,229 --> 01:41:33,280
minute here

2915
01:41:36,629 --> 01:41:34,239
you know

2916
01:41:38,390 --> 01:41:36,639
how do you process that

2917
01:41:40,790 --> 01:41:38,400
yeah they heard the heartbeat too by the

2918
01:41:41,750 --> 01:41:40,800
way i forgot to mention that

2919
01:41:43,350 --> 01:41:41,760
but uh

2920
01:41:44,709 --> 01:41:43,360
they go home they tell their parents

2921
01:41:46,470 --> 01:41:44,719
their parents are understanding except

2922
01:41:48,629 --> 01:41:46,480
for the super religious ones were a

2923
01:41:52,310 --> 01:41:48,639
little bit upset but they all

2924
01:41:55,669 --> 01:41:52,320
got lots of support from people and she

2925
01:41:57,109 --> 01:41:55,679
felt okay about it she's like i know my

2926
01:42:00,390 --> 01:41:57,119
child is alive

2927
01:42:03,109 --> 01:42:00,400
i know it i can feel it and i feel like

2928
01:42:05,109 --> 01:42:03,119
he's in good hands

2929
01:42:06,470 --> 01:42:05,119
and uh i've talked to a lot of people

2930
01:42:08,149 --> 01:42:06,480
who've had this experience and usually

2931
01:42:09,830 --> 01:42:08,159
they're taken to meet the child at some

2932
01:42:10,709 --> 01:42:09,840
point

2933
01:42:12,229 --> 01:42:10,719
and

2934
01:42:13,990 --> 01:42:12,239
as far as i know that didn't happen with

2935
01:42:16,149 --> 01:42:14,000
them but having with other people i've

2936
01:42:17,830 --> 01:42:16,159
talked to and they've gotten to see not

2937
01:42:19,590 --> 01:42:17,840
only their child their adult their

2938
01:42:21,750 --> 01:42:19,600
grown-up child

2939
01:42:23,990 --> 01:42:21,760
one lady had her

2940
01:42:26,870 --> 01:42:24,000
alien hybrid son

2941
01:42:27,990 --> 01:42:26,880
come into the kitchen

2942
01:42:29,350 --> 01:42:28,000
late at night when she went to get a

2943
01:42:32,709 --> 01:42:29,360
drink of water

2944
01:42:35,109 --> 01:42:32,719
and they had a long conversation

2945
01:42:36,870 --> 01:42:35,119
wow he's like don't you recognize me and

2946
01:42:38,950 --> 01:42:36,880
she's looking at him

2947
01:42:41,830 --> 01:42:38,960
pinching herself like oh my god it's

2948
01:42:43,270 --> 01:42:41,840
really happening so it and then it only

2949
01:42:44,709 --> 01:42:43,280
because it'll fall behind if i don't ask

2950
01:42:45,990 --> 01:42:44,719
it eventually in the chat they disappear

2951
01:42:47,910 --> 01:42:46,000
but melissa's asking a question kind of

2952
01:42:50,229 --> 01:42:47,920
correlates with us a little bit uh what

2953
01:42:52,229 --> 01:42:50,239
she was asking is is it a rule that when

2954
01:42:54,870 --> 01:42:52,239
contact is made he continues like are

2955
01:42:56,070 --> 01:42:54,880
they marked for life um so in kind of

2956
01:42:56,870 --> 01:42:56,080
relation to some of what we're talking

2957
01:42:57,910 --> 01:42:56,880
about here how they had those

2958
01:43:00,950 --> 01:42:57,920
experiences when they were younger do

2959
01:43:02,870 --> 01:43:00,960
you feel that that's kind of the case

2960
01:43:04,070 --> 01:43:02,880
kind of yeah

2961
01:43:05,990 --> 01:43:04,080
um

2962
01:43:08,830 --> 01:43:06,000
if someone is having contact the chances

2963
01:43:11,590 --> 01:43:08,840
are likely it's going to continue

2964
01:43:13,189 --> 01:43:11,600
however i will put a caveat on that

2965
01:43:14,470 --> 01:43:13,199
because there are people who are like i

2966
01:43:19,189 --> 01:43:14,480
hate this

2967
01:43:21,270 --> 01:43:19,199
go away go away and uh with enough

2968
01:43:24,149 --> 01:43:21,280
you know if you if you make it very

2969
01:43:26,070 --> 01:43:24,159
clear that you do not want this and do

2970
01:43:28,470 --> 01:43:26,080
not accept this and do not give

2971
01:43:31,590 --> 01:43:28,480
permission for this period

2972
01:43:32,629 --> 01:43:31,600
yeah this can stop contact

2973
01:43:34,790 --> 01:43:32,639
or

2974
01:43:35,830 --> 01:43:34,800
what might be happening is they're just

2975
01:43:37,270 --> 01:43:35,840
fine

2976
01:43:39,189 --> 01:43:37,280
you're we're not going to let you know

2977
01:43:41,030 --> 01:43:39,199
that this is happening to you

2978
01:43:43,430 --> 01:43:41,040
yeah um so i think a lot of people have

2979
01:43:44,950 --> 01:43:43,440
contact and never know it

2980
01:43:47,030 --> 01:43:44,960
there's um

2981
01:43:48,550 --> 01:43:47,040
again samantha moa that i mentioned if

2982
01:43:50,870 --> 01:43:48,560
you guys ever want to hear someone who

2983
01:43:52,470 --> 01:43:50,880
gives a very personal and she's one of a

2984
01:43:55,830 --> 01:43:52,480
couple that are very good at this but

2985
01:43:57,109 --> 01:43:55,840
gives a very personal raw open

2986
01:43:58,870 --> 01:43:57,119
um

2987
01:44:00,149 --> 01:43:58,880
i guess uh explanation of her

2988
01:44:02,070 --> 01:44:00,159
experiences that's going on because

2989
01:44:03,910 --> 01:44:02,080
she's someone who's had is experiencing

2990
01:44:07,510 --> 01:44:03,920
this and has experienced this

2991
01:44:09,510 --> 01:44:07,520
uh it's it's pretty

2992
01:44:11,590 --> 01:44:09,520
it definitely shifts your paradigm i'll

2993
01:44:12,709 --> 01:44:11,600
put it that way uh terry lovelace is

2994
01:44:15,270 --> 01:44:12,719
another one that comes to mind when i

2995
01:44:16,709 --> 01:44:15,280
had him on i remember asking him i said

2996
01:44:18,390 --> 01:44:16,719
i said terry and if you don't want to

2997
01:44:19,990 --> 01:44:18,400
talk about it so okay i said

2998
01:44:22,229 --> 01:44:20,000
just between you and i said do you do

2999
01:44:23,669 --> 01:44:22,239
you think you know that you've got some

3000
01:44:25,270 --> 01:44:23,679
that you've got maybe some children out

3001
01:44:27,030 --> 01:44:25,280
there and he told me even though we were

3002
01:44:27,910 --> 01:44:27,040
alive so he said i think i do i really

3003
01:44:29,830 --> 01:44:27,920
do

3004
01:44:32,149 --> 01:44:29,840
and uh i've noticed and i i've brought

3005
01:44:33,350 --> 01:44:32,159
this up a couple times and this isn't

3006
01:44:34,950 --> 01:44:33,360
uh to say

3007
01:44:36,310 --> 01:44:34,960
uh like geraldine i remember asking her

3008
01:44:38,470 --> 01:44:36,320
this because she's talked about quite a

3009
01:44:39,510 --> 01:44:38,480
bit this i said why we seem to hear a

3010
01:44:42,229 --> 01:44:39,520
lot about

3011
01:44:44,149 --> 01:44:42,239
um females experiencing this

3012
01:44:46,229 --> 01:44:44,159
but where the i guess like the fathers

3013
01:44:47,510 --> 01:44:46,239
in the stories there were so have you

3014
01:44:48,629 --> 01:44:47,520
and your

3015
01:44:50,310 --> 01:44:48,639
coming across these different

3016
01:44:52,229 --> 01:44:50,320
implantation or pregnancies and things

3017
01:44:53,910 --> 01:44:52,239
that nature are you experiencing 50 50

3018
01:44:55,590 --> 01:44:53,920
between male and female or would you say

3019
01:44:57,990 --> 01:44:55,600
that there are not as many cases of a

3020
01:45:00,070 --> 01:44:58,000
male saying yeah i'm a father to an

3021
01:45:02,790 --> 01:45:00,080
uh an et out there

3022
01:45:04,550 --> 01:45:02,800
i suspect it's equal um okay but but i

3023
01:45:06,310 --> 01:45:04,560
will say that yeah i have had more

3024
01:45:08,550 --> 01:45:06,320
female cases

3025
01:45:11,189 --> 01:45:08,560
but yeah i just there's a guy

3026
01:45:13,189 --> 01:45:11,199
uh and let's see it's the book before on

3027
01:45:14,550 --> 01:45:13,199
board ufo and conor she had this happen

3028
01:45:17,510 --> 01:45:14,560
he calls

3029
01:45:20,470 --> 01:45:17,520
her his star daughter and boy did he she

3030
01:45:23,350 --> 01:45:20,480
chokes up when he talks about her

3031
01:45:25,350 --> 01:45:23,360
uh it's very emotional for him yes this

3032
01:45:27,430 --> 01:45:25,360
happens to to both men and women like

3033
01:45:29,510 --> 01:45:27,440
that guy in upstate new york

3034
01:45:31,750 --> 01:45:29,520
uh in fact the subject of my next book

3035
01:45:33,590 --> 01:45:31,760
is above the lady but uh

3036
01:45:36,229 --> 01:45:33,600
her name is dolly

3037
01:45:38,310 --> 01:45:36,239
and she's a fully conscious contactee

3038
01:45:39,750 --> 01:45:38,320
i'm so excited about this book i can't

3039
01:45:41,270 --> 01:45:39,760
tell you because

3040
01:45:44,629 --> 01:45:41,280
a lot of people have interviewed view

3041
01:45:47,350 --> 01:45:44,639
this phenomena through the lens of fear

3042
01:45:50,310 --> 01:45:47,360
and she got sick of it early on she's

3043
01:45:51,910 --> 01:45:50,320
like 14 years old and she had a major

3044
01:45:53,990 --> 01:45:51,920
experience

3045
01:45:56,390 --> 01:45:54,000
and she's like that's it i am going to

3046
01:45:58,070 --> 01:45:56,400
remember i am not going to live this way

3047
01:45:58,950 --> 01:45:58,080
she's been having encounters her whole

3048
01:46:01,189 --> 01:45:58,960
life

3049
01:46:03,510 --> 01:46:01,199
and she's continued to have them she's

3050
01:46:06,310 --> 01:46:03,520
fully conscious

3051
01:46:08,390 --> 01:46:06,320
and boy oh boy her story is

3052
01:46:09,990 --> 01:46:08,400
probably the most extensive i have ever

3053
01:46:12,629 --> 01:46:10,000
heard in my life

3054
01:46:14,550 --> 01:46:12,639
she's proved it to me i've don't think

3055
01:46:15,990 --> 01:46:14,560
i've ever been more excited about

3056
01:46:19,270 --> 01:46:16,000
you know putting out a book than this

3057
01:46:21,109 --> 01:46:19,280
one i'm working on right now very nice

3058
01:46:23,030 --> 01:46:21,119
um so so this question right here that

3059
01:46:24,790 --> 01:46:23,040
zensey bill has which thank you first of

3060
01:46:26,870 --> 01:46:24,800
all bring it on the chat tonight um if

3061
01:46:29,030 --> 01:46:26,880
they are disappearing pregnancies are

3062
01:46:30,950 --> 01:46:29,040
there suddenly appearing pregnancies

3063
01:46:32,550 --> 01:46:30,960
without the natural interaction

3064
01:46:35,830 --> 01:46:32,560
beforehand

3065
01:46:39,350 --> 01:46:35,840
yes yes very interesting

3066
01:46:41,270 --> 01:46:39,360
there's a lady i interviewed in maine

3067
01:46:43,189 --> 01:46:41,280
and she had that happen she's separated

3068
01:46:46,070 --> 01:46:43,199
from her husband she had not had

3069
01:46:48,470 --> 01:46:46,080
intercourse and she became pregnant

3070
01:46:51,270 --> 01:46:48,480
she's had four or five disappearing

3071
01:46:54,550 --> 01:46:51,280
pregnancies and one of them was

3072
01:46:55,669 --> 01:46:54,560
an appearing pregnancy

3073
01:46:57,109 --> 01:46:55,679
she went to the doctor and was like

3074
01:46:58,790 --> 01:46:57,119
you're pregnant

3075
01:47:01,109 --> 01:46:58,800
and same with this lady in florida by

3076
01:47:02,709 --> 01:47:01,119
the way same thing she was not intimate

3077
01:47:03,990 --> 01:47:02,719
with anybody and she had a pregnancy

3078
01:47:05,590 --> 01:47:04,000
appear

3079
01:47:08,070 --> 01:47:05,600
and the doctor's like you're pregnant

3080
01:47:09,910 --> 01:47:08,080
they're both like no i'm not i haven't

3081
01:47:12,310 --> 01:47:09,920
had sex what are you talking about like

3082
01:47:13,910 --> 01:47:12,320
you're pregnant

3083
01:47:17,750 --> 01:47:13,920
yeah

3084
01:47:19,750 --> 01:47:17,760
i say uh and i think you're right here

3085
01:47:21,750 --> 01:47:19,760
oh maybe see i'm between two screens so

3086
01:47:24,070 --> 01:47:21,760
sometimes the uh stream area takes a

3087
01:47:25,830 --> 01:47:24,080
little longer to kick in versus

3088
01:47:27,270 --> 01:47:25,840
uh youtube there but i know josh has

3089
01:47:28,310 --> 01:47:27,280
asked a great question i believe he was

3090
01:47:30,709 --> 01:47:28,320
saying he believes that this had

3091
01:47:32,870 --> 01:47:30,719
happened to uh geraldine orozco as well

3092
01:47:34,070 --> 01:47:32,880
correct or or i believe

3093
01:47:35,030 --> 01:47:34,080
i can see right here i can't see it over

3094
01:47:36,550 --> 01:47:35,040
here

3095
01:47:37,910 --> 01:47:36,560
if it did i don't remember that part of

3096
01:47:41,750 --> 01:47:37,920
the top of my head

3097
01:47:43,510 --> 01:47:41,760
but that's very interesting i mean again

3098
01:47:45,109 --> 01:47:43,520
i guess what's interesting about this

3099
01:47:47,430 --> 01:47:45,119
and again i don't ever like to speak on

3100
01:47:49,590 --> 01:47:47,440
it too much because they samantha and

3101
01:47:51,910 --> 01:47:49,600
geraldine both do great jobs at

3102
01:47:53,270 --> 01:47:51,920
hitting on this and explaining it but

3103
01:47:54,550 --> 01:47:53,280
somebody was asking one time what is

3104
01:47:56,790 --> 01:47:54,560
even the reason

3105
01:47:58,550 --> 01:47:56,800
i mean what from your perspective from

3106
01:48:00,070 --> 01:47:58,560
the research you're done what do you

3107
01:48:02,550 --> 01:48:00,080
think is the reasoning behind this what

3108
01:48:03,990 --> 01:48:02,560
is the process and it and it has this to

3109
01:48:07,030 --> 01:48:04,000
add on that the second part of it is do

3110
01:48:09,430 --> 01:48:07,040
you think it's been going on for forever

3111
01:48:11,990 --> 01:48:09,440
yes and yes and i think

3112
01:48:12,870 --> 01:48:12,000
i think we know the reason i really do i

3113
01:48:14,790 --> 01:48:12,880
think

3114
01:48:16,149 --> 01:48:14,800
uh we've got a really good handle on

3115
01:48:18,070 --> 01:48:16,159
exactly why it's occurring and i've

3116
01:48:20,790 --> 01:48:18,080
heard the same story from separate

3117
01:48:22,629 --> 01:48:20,800
contactees over and over again my latest

3118
01:48:24,229 --> 01:48:22,639
book wondrous one of my favorite

3119
01:48:26,229 --> 01:48:24,239
chapters i put in the last chapter

3120
01:48:27,750 --> 01:48:26,239
because it's long and it's

3121
01:48:29,830 --> 01:48:27,760
amazing

3122
01:48:32,870 --> 01:48:29,840
this lady originally from california she

3123
01:48:35,189 --> 01:48:32,880
moved to the east coast and then back

3124
01:48:37,350 --> 01:48:35,199
had a rough childhood with visitors

3125
01:48:38,870 --> 01:48:37,360
coming to her bedroom and it scared the

3126
01:48:41,030 --> 01:48:38,880
daylights out of her

3127
01:48:44,229 --> 01:48:41,040
and finally she faced it and it's a long

3128
01:48:46,470 --> 01:48:44,239
story she had an appearing pregnancy and

3129
01:48:48,470 --> 01:48:46,480
it disappeared of course

3130
01:48:50,550 --> 01:48:48,480
and uh finally she

3131
01:48:52,790 --> 01:48:50,560
had this long conversation with a gray

3132
01:48:54,390 --> 01:48:52,800
alien

3133
01:48:55,910 --> 01:48:54,400
and he introduced himself he says my

3134
01:48:57,830 --> 01:48:55,920
name is sen

3135
01:48:59,430 --> 01:48:57,840
and she said oh

3136
01:49:02,550 --> 01:48:59,440
are you my son

3137
01:49:04,870 --> 01:49:02,560
and he said not as you would think of it

3138
01:49:06,950 --> 01:49:04,880
you did not give birth to me but i am

3139
01:49:08,870 --> 01:49:06,960
made of your genetics

3140
01:49:10,709 --> 01:49:08,880
so yes and no

3141
01:49:12,709 --> 01:49:10,719
and she said why

3142
01:49:14,870 --> 01:49:12,719
are you taking me i said because we are

3143
01:49:16,550 --> 01:49:14,880
interested in your genetics and here's

3144
01:49:17,990 --> 01:49:16,560
the story i've heard of

3145
01:49:19,109 --> 01:49:18,000
well i was going to say a thousand times

3146
01:49:23,350 --> 01:49:19,119
but that's

3147
01:49:27,189 --> 01:49:25,669
and i've read it in other cases from

3148
01:49:29,750 --> 01:49:27,199
other researchers

3149
01:49:31,270 --> 01:49:29,760
they told her that we are having trouble

3150
01:49:33,589 --> 01:49:31,280
reproducing

3151
01:49:34,950 --> 01:49:33,599
our genetics have become damaged due to

3152
01:49:37,270 --> 01:49:34,960
space travel

3153
01:49:38,709 --> 01:49:37,280
and genetic manipulation we changed our

3154
01:49:41,669 --> 01:49:38,719
genetics

3155
01:49:43,510 --> 01:49:41,679
to to remove some of these harsher

3156
01:49:45,189 --> 01:49:43,520
emotions

3157
01:49:47,589 --> 01:49:45,199
so that we could do

3158
01:49:50,950 --> 01:49:47,599
prolonged space travel

3159
01:49:52,950 --> 01:49:50,960
and now we're trying to reintroduce them

3160
01:49:55,189 --> 01:49:52,960
to bring our emotions back to make us

3161
01:49:57,350 --> 01:49:55,199
more physical like you guys

3162
01:50:00,629 --> 01:49:57,360
and to reintroduce our ability to

3163
01:50:03,030 --> 01:50:00,639
reproduce they said we are have the same

3164
01:50:05,189 --> 01:50:03,040
genetics as you essentially we once

3165
01:50:07,510 --> 01:50:05,199
looked like you

3166
01:50:08,709 --> 01:50:07,520
and this i've heard before gr the grays

3167
01:50:11,189 --> 01:50:08,719
are not

3168
01:50:11,990 --> 01:50:11,199
as separatist species as

3169
01:50:14,550 --> 01:50:12,000
you might

3170
01:50:16,790 --> 01:50:14,560
think they are actually

3171
01:50:19,030 --> 01:50:16,800
and a lot of these guys are much more

3172
01:50:20,709 --> 01:50:19,040
human than we realize

3173
01:50:22,629 --> 01:50:20,719
and yeah i do think it's been going on a

3174
01:50:24,310 --> 01:50:22,639
very long time

3175
01:50:27,589 --> 01:50:24,320
uh if you look at ancient writings

3176
01:50:30,229 --> 01:50:27,599
whether it's in the bible or you know

3177
01:50:32,149 --> 01:50:30,239
other indigenous cultures

3178
01:50:33,589 --> 01:50:32,159
have oral traditions certainly native

3179
01:50:35,910 --> 01:50:33,599
american cultures

3180
01:50:38,629 --> 01:50:35,920
of sky gods and coming down to mate with

3181
01:50:40,550 --> 01:50:38,639
humans and this sort of thing

3182
01:50:42,470 --> 01:50:40,560
yeah i think this has been going a long

3183
01:50:43,669 --> 01:50:42,480
time i think they're upgrading

3184
01:50:45,189 --> 01:50:43,679
humanity

3185
01:50:47,030 --> 01:50:45,199
bit by bit

3186
01:50:50,310 --> 01:50:47,040
which explains why we're getting bigger

3187
01:50:52,070 --> 01:50:50,320
and stronger and longer lived

3188
01:50:54,229 --> 01:50:52,080
yeah they do seem to be interesting

3189
01:50:55,350 --> 01:50:54,239
here's a really interesting case real

3190
01:50:56,629 --> 01:50:55,360
quick

3191
01:50:58,390 --> 01:50:56,639
uh

3192
01:51:00,470 --> 01:50:58,400
a guy from florida

3193
01:51:03,270 --> 01:51:00,480
i think his name was jim

3194
01:51:05,270 --> 01:51:03,280
uh gainesville florida had a hernia

3195
01:51:07,589 --> 01:51:05,280
grades show up and he's and he's used to

3196
01:51:09,030 --> 01:51:07,599
it by now because he's a contact he's

3197
01:51:10,390 --> 01:51:09,040
like

3198
01:51:12,629 --> 01:51:10,400
you guys if you're going to take me

3199
01:51:15,350 --> 01:51:12,639
would you cure my hernia i'm like fine

3200
01:51:17,830 --> 01:51:15,360
well we'll cure your hernia and they did

3201
01:51:19,750 --> 01:51:17,840
and he said why are you taking me they

3202
01:51:22,550 --> 01:51:19,760
said we are interested in your genetic

3203
01:51:24,709 --> 01:51:22,560
potential to live a long time

3204
01:51:26,470 --> 01:51:24,719
interesting yeah his grandfather mother

3205
01:51:27,669 --> 01:51:26,480
was 106.

3206
01:51:30,229 --> 01:51:27,679
wow

3207
01:51:33,030 --> 01:51:30,239
that's a while that's i mean in terms of

3208
01:51:34,229 --> 01:51:33,040
how long we live some of some of i mean

3209
01:51:36,149 --> 01:51:34,239
i know dave scott's talked about the

3210
01:51:37,990 --> 01:51:36,159
squeaky times hey it's not fair why are

3211
01:51:40,709 --> 01:51:38,000
we living in such a short lifespan you

3212
01:51:41,990 --> 01:51:40,719
think about it uh as a human compares to

3213
01:51:44,229 --> 01:51:42,000
some of the

3214
01:51:46,830 --> 01:51:44,239
um accounts we've heard of other species

3215
01:51:49,990 --> 01:51:46,840
in their their life

3216
01:51:52,870 --> 01:51:50,000
um i know the greys live

3217
01:51:54,870 --> 01:51:52,880
a few hundred years three four five

3218
01:51:56,629 --> 01:51:54,880
long longer

3219
01:51:59,030 --> 01:51:56,639
yeah i think that's the rule with most

3220
01:52:00,470 --> 01:51:59,040
of these ets or longer lived

3221
01:52:02,790 --> 01:52:00,480
well i tell you what i'm gonna do guys

3222
01:52:03,830 --> 01:52:02,800
um because i know that josh casey i'm

3223
01:52:04,709 --> 01:52:03,840
gonna bring it on here in a little bit

3224
01:52:06,709 --> 01:52:04,719
if you get ready about i'll give you

3225
01:52:08,790 --> 01:52:06,719
like 10-15 minutes to get ready he had

3226
01:52:09,990 --> 01:52:08,800
he wanted to ask you some questions uh

3227
01:52:11,109 --> 01:52:10,000
personally and i told him because he

3228
01:52:13,109 --> 01:52:11,119
helped me kind of get in contact with

3229
01:52:14,709 --> 01:52:13,119
you i have no problem doing that

3230
01:52:16,550 --> 01:52:14,719
um and i might even open up the lines

3231
01:52:18,310 --> 01:52:16,560
for the general chat to ask some

3232
01:52:19,750 --> 01:52:18,320
questions but before we get to that

3233
01:52:20,950 --> 01:52:19,760
preston i'd love if you're okay with

3234
01:52:22,310 --> 01:52:20,960
sharing i'd love to hear about some of

3235
01:52:23,510 --> 01:52:22,320
your own personal experiences that

3236
01:52:24,709 --> 01:52:23,520
you've had

3237
01:52:26,390 --> 01:52:24,719
um

3238
01:52:28,149 --> 01:52:26,400
going through this over the decades i

3239
01:52:30,470 --> 01:52:28,159
mean have you had any sort of encounters

3240
01:52:31,990 --> 01:52:30,480
yourself along the way

3241
01:52:33,030 --> 01:52:32,000
yeah and i don't think that quite

3242
01:52:34,950 --> 01:52:33,040
compared to some of the people i've

3243
01:52:36,070 --> 01:52:34,960
talked to but they're getting close

3244
01:52:39,750 --> 01:52:36,080
[Music]

3245
01:52:42,870 --> 01:52:39,760
it's ramping up for me it is uh one

3246
01:52:44,709 --> 01:52:42,880
early encounter was 1992

3247
01:52:46,790 --> 01:52:44,719
i'm driving home after talking to my

3248
01:52:49,270 --> 01:52:46,800
brother mark and christy all night long

3249
01:52:51,350 --> 01:52:49,280
practically about ufos i was going out

3250
01:52:54,709 --> 01:52:51,360
of my mind with this subject it's

3251
01:52:57,030 --> 01:52:54,719
1992 i'm still trying to absorb it

3252
01:52:58,790 --> 01:52:57,040
and i'm driving through woodland hills

3253
01:53:01,030 --> 01:52:58,800
on their street gallandrina it's a

3254
01:53:03,030 --> 01:53:01,040
little tiny street i'm coming around

3255
01:53:05,109 --> 01:53:03,040
this hairpin corner two miles three

3256
01:53:06,629 --> 01:53:05,119
miles an hour

3257
01:53:09,030 --> 01:53:06,639
this is late

3258
01:53:10,870 --> 01:53:09,040
july about 11 00

3259
01:53:12,390 --> 01:53:10,880
maybe midnight

3260
01:53:14,629 --> 01:53:12,400
and uh

3261
01:53:16,790 --> 01:53:14,639
i see what i thought at first was a bird

3262
01:53:19,430 --> 01:53:16,800
swooping towards my car it's

3263
01:53:20,709 --> 01:53:19,440
a couple hundred feet up to the right

3264
01:53:22,229 --> 01:53:20,719
and i'm looking up and i'm like well

3265
01:53:24,070 --> 01:53:22,239
that's not a bird it's glowing and i

3266
01:53:25,750 --> 01:53:24,080
thought well maybe it's a firecracker

3267
01:53:27,750 --> 01:53:25,760
because it's late july

3268
01:53:29,830 --> 01:53:27,760
and i'm like well it's still coming it's

3269
01:53:31,510 --> 01:53:29,840
coming

3270
01:53:32,870 --> 01:53:31,520
and boom it's right in front of my car

3271
01:53:34,870 --> 01:53:32,880
it was an orb

3272
01:53:36,870 --> 01:53:34,880
and it was about as big as

3273
01:53:38,070 --> 01:53:36,880
a golf ball actually a bigger bigger

3274
01:53:41,430 --> 01:53:38,080
than a golf ball but not as big as a

3275
01:53:44,470 --> 01:53:41,440
tennis ball but thereabouts

3276
01:53:45,350 --> 01:53:44,480
soft yellow light you know not harsh

3277
01:53:47,189 --> 01:53:45,360
yeah

3278
01:53:48,629 --> 01:53:47,199
maybe white yellow

3279
01:53:50,950 --> 01:53:48,639
and it's right in front i mean as far

3280
01:53:53,189 --> 01:53:50,960
away from the computer as i am now a

3281
01:53:54,550 --> 01:53:53,199
foot maybe two

3282
01:53:56,950 --> 01:53:54,560
and it goes back

3283
01:54:01,270 --> 01:53:56,960
and forth and back and forth and back

3284
01:54:04,149 --> 01:54:01,990
and

3285
01:54:06,070 --> 01:54:04,159
it goes over the hood of my car

3286
01:54:08,070 --> 01:54:06,080
dips down almost scrapes against the

3287
01:54:10,070 --> 01:54:08,080
cement and goes straight up of course i

3288
01:54:11,350 --> 01:54:10,080
crane forward and i look up

3289
01:54:12,709 --> 01:54:11,360
at the windshield and i watch it

3290
01:54:14,790 --> 01:54:12,719
disappear through the canopy in the

3291
01:54:16,310 --> 01:54:14,800
trees and it's gone

3292
01:54:17,510 --> 01:54:16,320
and i always tell people that's my

3293
01:54:19,589 --> 01:54:17,520
sighting

3294
01:54:23,189 --> 01:54:19,599
until years later and by the way i

3295
01:54:25,510 --> 01:54:23,199
forgot about it i completely forgot

3296
01:54:27,830 --> 01:54:25,520
i did not remember it

3297
01:54:30,070 --> 01:54:27,840
until months later

3298
01:54:31,669 --> 01:54:30,080
so for you going home the trip was just

3299
01:54:33,910 --> 01:54:31,679
seamless there was there was no

3300
01:54:35,189 --> 01:54:33,920
transition of time

3301
01:54:37,430 --> 01:54:35,199
well here's where it gets weird because

3302
01:54:40,470 --> 01:54:37,440
someone's like what happened next

3303
01:54:43,589 --> 01:54:42,229
you know i don't remember i don't

3304
01:54:46,470 --> 01:54:43,599
remember driving home i don't remember

3305
01:54:47,830 --> 01:54:46,480
going to bed i i've had other sightings

3306
01:54:50,310 --> 01:54:47,840
really good ones

3307
01:54:52,229 --> 01:54:50,320
and i always well i don't want to say

3308
01:54:53,750 --> 01:54:52,239
always but i remember

3309
01:54:55,510 --> 01:54:53,760
and i write it down and i'm like oh my

3310
01:54:57,030 --> 01:54:55,520
god you guys you never guess what

3311
01:55:00,390 --> 01:54:57,040
happened and i called people and i'm

3312
01:55:01,270 --> 01:55:00,400
like i saw you up i did not turn around

3313
01:55:03,270 --> 01:55:01,280
and

3314
01:55:04,790 --> 01:55:03,280
you didn't pursue it on foot like uh

3315
01:55:06,070 --> 01:55:04,800
like her with her puppy in hand and

3316
01:55:07,589 --> 01:55:06,080
chased down

3317
01:55:08,709 --> 01:55:07,599
mantis you didn't

3318
01:55:09,430 --> 01:55:08,719
go

3319
01:55:11,109 --> 01:55:09,440
but

3320
01:55:13,669 --> 01:55:11,119
if you know after seeing a ufo i was

3321
01:55:14,950 --> 01:55:13,679
just i'm three minutes away from the

3322
01:55:15,910 --> 01:55:14,960
my brother's house i would have turned

3323
01:55:17,669 --> 01:55:15,920
around

3324
01:55:20,790 --> 01:55:17,679
is what i'm saying

3325
01:55:23,430 --> 01:55:20,800
and i said mark christie guess what but

3326
01:55:25,589 --> 01:55:23,440
i didn't do that i had missing time i'm

3327
01:55:26,470 --> 01:55:25,599
pretty darn sure

3328
01:55:29,109 --> 01:55:26,480
uh

3329
01:55:31,350 --> 01:55:29,119
and i started having a lot 1992 was a

3330
01:55:34,390 --> 01:55:31,360
huge year for me

3331
01:55:35,430 --> 01:55:34,400
huge we were camping that year

3332
01:55:38,470 --> 01:55:35,440
uh

3333
01:55:40,870 --> 01:55:38,480
it was like a month later august

3334
01:55:43,030 --> 01:55:40,880
up in crater lake and we brought a

3335
01:55:44,229 --> 01:55:43,040
flashlight marco christie and i well the

3336
01:55:45,589 --> 01:55:44,239
whole family was there but they all went

3337
01:55:48,790 --> 01:55:45,599
to bed and we stayed up late hoping to

3338
01:55:51,750 --> 01:55:48,800
see ufos and darndaff one didn't show up

3339
01:55:54,310 --> 01:55:51,760
mark saw it first he's like i saw light

3340
01:55:55,910 --> 01:55:54,320
i'm like really like seriously hand me

3341
01:55:57,669 --> 01:55:55,920
the flashlight

3342
01:55:59,430 --> 01:55:57,679
and he flashes it into the sky and we're

3343
01:56:02,310 --> 01:55:59,440
all staring up and boom this light

3344
01:56:03,910 --> 01:56:02,320
flashes us back i'm like whoa

3345
01:56:06,629 --> 01:56:03,920
we're like ah

3346
01:56:08,950 --> 01:56:06,639
and mark flashes the light twice and it

3347
01:56:11,910 --> 01:56:08,960
flashes us twice back

3348
01:56:15,910 --> 01:56:13,669
so that was like a

3349
01:56:19,510 --> 01:56:15,920
almost and that's when i joined sea seti

3350
01:56:21,830 --> 01:56:19,520
a month later and we had more sightings

3351
01:56:23,990 --> 01:56:21,840
oh they i just started getting hit by

3352
01:56:25,990 --> 01:56:24,000
them over and over again

3353
01:56:29,270 --> 01:56:26,000
i had a i had one setting where they

3354
01:56:30,870 --> 01:56:29,280
actually talked to me oh wow

3355
01:56:32,149 --> 01:56:30,880
now when you say talk are you saying

3356
01:56:34,070 --> 01:56:32,159
like verbally

3357
01:56:37,189 --> 01:56:34,080
like i am doing right now or was it more

3358
01:56:39,589 --> 01:56:37,199
of just a telepathic communication

3359
01:56:40,790 --> 01:56:39,599
telepathic message it wasn't english

3360
01:56:43,990 --> 01:56:40,800
words

3361
01:56:46,149 --> 01:56:44,000
but i got the message for sure

3362
01:56:47,830 --> 01:56:46,159
because if you one minus they tell us i

3363
01:56:49,430 --> 01:56:47,840
guess was there something led up to that

3364
01:56:51,270 --> 01:56:49,440
i mean what led up to you even getting

3365
01:56:52,950 --> 01:56:51,280
the message in the first place yeah

3366
01:56:55,030 --> 01:56:52,960
there was a huge lead up and i'll just

3367
01:56:56,790 --> 01:56:55,040
do it real quick yeah no rush we have

3368
01:56:58,629 --> 01:56:56,800
time we we don't have anybody on for

3369
01:57:00,070 --> 01:56:58,639
another hour and two minutes so as long

3370
01:57:01,990 --> 01:57:00,080
as you that's how fast for sure we'll be

3371
01:57:05,109 --> 01:57:02,000
done by then but if you have time no

3372
01:57:07,350 --> 01:57:05,119
rush so all right yeah um so i

3373
01:57:09,350 --> 01:57:07,360
interviewed this lady wendy who was the

3374
01:57:11,350 --> 01:57:09,360
lady was healed

3375
01:57:13,669 --> 01:57:11,360
right yeah i mentioned that earlier she

3376
01:57:15,430 --> 01:57:13,679
also had hybrid babies

3377
01:57:17,030 --> 01:57:15,440
and once she woke up and all these grays

3378
01:57:19,270 --> 01:57:17,040
were around her bed she jumps up and

3379
01:57:20,470 --> 01:57:19,280
kicks one in the neck and its neck snaps

3380
01:57:21,830 --> 01:57:20,480
oh geez

3381
01:57:24,070 --> 01:57:21,840
they're not very big and i mean you

3382
01:57:26,070 --> 01:57:24,080
could you could probably do some damage

3383
01:57:27,589 --> 01:57:26,080
yeah i heard that and i'm like

3384
01:57:29,189 --> 01:57:27,599
what

3385
01:57:30,950 --> 01:57:29,199
and i knew of another case where someone

3386
01:57:32,149 --> 01:57:30,960
you know travis wong punched one in the

3387
01:57:34,229 --> 01:57:32,159
face

3388
01:57:36,310 --> 01:57:34,239
and i knew of a few cases but i'm like

3389
01:57:37,589 --> 01:57:36,320
oh my god that's a lot that's a lot to

3390
01:57:39,430 --> 01:57:37,599
take

3391
01:57:40,790 --> 01:57:39,440
i know i knew she was telling the truth

3392
01:57:42,550 --> 01:57:40,800
but i was just trying to wrap my head

3393
01:57:44,390 --> 01:57:42,560
around it so i'm up there in my condo

3394
01:57:46,709 --> 01:57:44,400
transcribing the interview i record all

3395
01:57:48,709 --> 01:57:46,719
the interviews

3396
01:57:50,310 --> 01:57:48,719
and i got to that part where she gets in

3397
01:57:52,550 --> 01:57:50,320
the neck and i'm just leaning back in my

3398
01:57:55,109 --> 01:57:52,560
chair like huh

3399
01:57:57,430 --> 01:57:55,119
i wonder if that's for real

3400
01:57:59,430 --> 01:57:57,440
i mean how could how can how can stuff

3401
01:58:01,910 --> 01:57:59,440
like this happen in this world

3402
01:58:05,109 --> 01:58:01,920
and i got a really strong irresistible

3403
01:58:06,470 --> 01:58:05,119
impulse to run to the roof of my condo

3404
01:58:08,550 --> 01:58:06,480
which

3405
01:58:09,990 --> 01:58:08,560
you you know you don't do you're not

3406
01:58:11,430 --> 01:58:10,000
allowed on the roof

3407
01:58:14,229 --> 01:58:11,440
right um

3408
01:58:15,910 --> 01:58:14,239
and weirdly i ran three stories down to

3409
01:58:18,950 --> 01:58:15,920
get my glasses out of the car because i

3410
01:58:20,629 --> 01:58:18,960
wear glasses for driving

3411
01:58:22,950 --> 01:58:20,639
and i keep in the car you know i don't

3412
01:58:26,550 --> 01:58:22,960
really need him for anything else

3413
01:58:28,070 --> 01:58:26,560
uh and uh came back upstairs and ran to

3414
01:58:29,830 --> 01:58:28,080
the roof and i'm standing on the roof

3415
01:58:31,830 --> 01:58:29,840
thinking what am i doing up here how did

3416
01:58:34,870 --> 01:58:31,840
this happen i didn't even mean to go on

3417
01:58:37,030 --> 01:58:34,880
the roof it just happened

3418
01:58:41,350 --> 01:58:37,040
i could not resist and i was up there 10

3419
01:58:44,709 --> 01:58:41,360
seconds maybe 20 when a ufo appeared

3420
01:58:49,669 --> 01:58:48,149
well let me think 200 to 200 feet away

3421
01:58:51,189 --> 01:58:49,679
because there's a tiny little parking

3422
01:58:53,109 --> 01:58:51,199
lot and

3423
01:58:55,030 --> 01:58:53,119
two spaces wide

3424
01:58:56,790 --> 01:58:55,040
and the la river there which is you know

3425
01:58:58,950 --> 01:58:56,800
maybe 50 feet

3426
01:59:00,550 --> 01:58:58,960
yeah and the apartment building

3427
01:59:01,750 --> 01:59:00,560
across the way there

3428
01:59:03,830 --> 01:59:01,760
and it was right over the apartment

3429
01:59:06,870 --> 01:59:03,840
building right above the palm trees

3430
01:59:10,070 --> 01:59:06,880
and it was this giant golden

3431
01:59:12,629 --> 01:59:10,080
sphere or maybe slightly oval shaped

3432
01:59:14,830 --> 01:59:12,639
could have been about 10 feet

3433
01:59:18,550 --> 01:59:14,840
across could be 20 feet it was hard to

3434
01:59:19,990 --> 01:59:18,560
say because uh it was bright and fiery

3435
01:59:22,709 --> 01:59:20,000
orange

3436
01:59:24,790 --> 01:59:22,719
and it blasted me with a message

3437
01:59:26,790 --> 01:59:24,800
it appears and then goes boom and it

3438
01:59:29,589 --> 01:59:26,800
says hi

3439
01:59:30,790 --> 01:59:29,599
uh we're wendy's et's you don't believe

3440
01:59:33,270 --> 01:59:30,800
huh

3441
01:59:35,830 --> 01:59:33,280
we're real watch this now if you don't

3442
01:59:37,750 --> 01:59:35,840
believe watch this we'll prove it and

3443
01:59:39,430 --> 01:59:37,760
again this is not words but that was the

3444
01:59:41,270 --> 01:59:39,440
gist of the message

3445
01:59:43,109 --> 01:59:41,280
like hi it's us

3446
01:59:44,709 --> 01:59:43,119
right watch

3447
01:59:46,390 --> 01:59:44,719
we're real

3448
01:59:48,629 --> 01:59:46,400
and this thing goes

3449
01:59:50,310 --> 01:59:48,639
and it was still at first it goes boom

3450
01:59:51,990 --> 01:59:50,320
to the left and then boom to the right

3451
01:59:53,830 --> 01:59:52,000
and boom to the left back and forth back

3452
01:59:54,709 --> 01:59:53,840
and forth back and forth going lower and

3453
01:59:58,709 --> 01:59:54,719
normal

3454
02:00:01,750 --> 01:59:58,719
for you huh a total display for sure

3455
02:00:03,350 --> 02:00:01,760
and uh it was maybe 20 seconds which is

3456
02:00:05,750 --> 02:00:03,360
a long time

3457
02:00:07,830 --> 02:00:05,760
yeah seeing a ufo darting around like

3458
02:00:09,270 --> 02:00:07,840
nobody's business

3459
02:00:10,470 --> 02:00:09,280
and it disappeared

3460
02:00:13,109 --> 02:00:10,480
i'm like ah

3461
02:00:14,390 --> 02:00:13,119
oh my god

3462
02:00:15,669 --> 02:00:14,400
i should have called her up that night i

3463
02:00:17,030 --> 02:00:15,679
don't think i did i think it was the

3464
02:00:18,629 --> 02:00:17,040
next day i'm like wendy you're not going

3465
02:00:21,510 --> 02:00:18,639
to believe it

3466
02:00:22,470 --> 02:00:21,520
your ets called me up i mean they came

3467
02:00:23,270 --> 02:00:22,480
and they said

3468
02:00:25,350 --> 02:00:23,280
they

3469
02:00:26,390 --> 02:00:25,360
told me you're telling the truth it's

3470
02:00:28,310 --> 02:00:26,400
like what do you mean of course i'm

3471
02:00:29,510 --> 02:00:28,320
telling the truth like yeah i know i

3472
02:00:31,990 --> 02:00:29,520
know but they

3473
02:00:34,070 --> 02:00:32,000
wanted me to they wanted me to know yes

3474
02:00:35,589 --> 02:00:34,080
i don't know man they were there they

3475
02:00:37,589 --> 02:00:35,599
told me

3476
02:00:39,430 --> 02:00:37,599
she's like i told you i mean i told you

3477
02:00:41,270 --> 02:00:39,440
they were real

3478
02:00:42,390 --> 02:00:41,280
yeah i i guess i mean it's so

3479
02:00:43,270 --> 02:00:42,400
interesting you mentioned that too

3480
02:00:44,629 --> 02:00:43,280
because

3481
02:00:46,390 --> 02:00:44,639
you know

3482
02:00:47,669 --> 02:00:46,400
because i'm trying to remember correctly

3483
02:00:49,589 --> 02:00:47,679
because i do when we talk about this was

3484
02:00:50,709 --> 02:00:49,599
this the second or the first time

3485
02:00:52,470 --> 02:00:50,719
because there was another encounter you

3486
02:00:53,669 --> 02:00:52,480
had right we actually had a camera was

3487
02:00:54,629 --> 02:00:53,679
actually around you right and you said

3488
02:00:55,990 --> 02:00:54,639
you never even thought to take the

3489
02:00:57,510 --> 02:00:56,000
picture of it

3490
02:00:59,189 --> 02:00:57,520
yeah i was

3491
02:01:00,790 --> 02:00:59,199
same lady wendy

3492
02:01:02,390 --> 02:01:00,800
same with she must be a lightning rod

3493
02:01:04,629 --> 02:01:02,400
for that over there i guess

3494
02:01:05,830 --> 02:01:04,639
so i'm talking i'm like what

3495
02:01:07,510 --> 02:01:05,840
i'm like i saw one she's like yeah

3496
02:01:09,910 --> 02:01:07,520
wasn't it amazing like yeah it was but

3497
02:01:11,589 --> 02:01:09,920
you know what i wasn't ready

3498
02:01:12,629 --> 02:01:11,599
i would really like to see a ufo is what

3499
02:01:14,470 --> 02:01:12,639
i told her and she's like well you just

3500
02:01:16,070 --> 02:01:14,480
saw one i'm like yeah but

3501
02:01:17,990 --> 02:01:16,080
but but

3502
02:01:20,310 --> 02:01:18,000
i'm just like fine i'll i'll ask them

3503
02:01:23,270 --> 02:01:20,320
i'm like what wait you can do that just

3504
02:01:24,950 --> 02:01:23,280
like yeah sure i'm in contact with them

3505
02:01:26,390 --> 02:01:24,960
all the time

3506
02:01:27,830 --> 02:01:26,400
and they talk to me i talk to them i'm

3507
02:01:29,589 --> 02:01:27,840
like okay

3508
02:01:31,510 --> 02:01:29,599
and she calls me back like a week or two

3509
02:01:32,950 --> 02:01:31,520
later like all right it's set up let's

3510
02:01:35,589 --> 02:01:32,960
go you ready

3511
02:01:38,790 --> 02:01:35,599
i'm like yeah let's do this

3512
02:01:40,870 --> 02:01:38,800
and i mean it was a preset time in place

3513
02:01:43,270 --> 02:01:40,880
which is just off the

3514
02:01:44,950 --> 02:01:43,280
210 freeway in pasadena

3515
02:01:46,629 --> 02:01:44,960
we parked on the freeway i'm like oh my

3516
02:01:49,030 --> 02:01:46,639
god you seriously want me to park on the

3517
02:01:50,870 --> 02:01:49,040
freeway yeah

3518
02:01:53,350 --> 02:01:50,880
all right

3519
02:01:54,870 --> 02:01:53,360
so this was a rural area you know there

3520
02:01:55,910 --> 02:01:54,880
weren't any houses around and there was

3521
02:01:57,430 --> 02:01:55,920
this hill

3522
02:01:59,109 --> 02:01:57,440
and i brought my christy my

3523
02:02:01,109 --> 02:01:59,119
sister-in-law and her

3524
02:02:03,109 --> 02:02:01,119
son my nephew

3525
02:02:04,390 --> 02:02:03,119
and wendy so all four of us are trumping

3526
02:02:06,390 --> 02:02:04,400
up this hill

3527
02:02:08,790 --> 02:02:06,400
and it's a big hill i mean it's pretty

3528
02:02:10,709 --> 02:02:08,800
much a mountain and it took us 20

3529
02:02:13,109 --> 02:02:10,719
minutes to get to the top and christy

3530
02:02:15,189 --> 02:02:13,119
and james fell behind

3531
02:02:17,350 --> 02:02:15,199
a couple of hundred yards

3532
02:02:19,109 --> 02:02:17,360
and wendy and i get to the top there's

3533
02:02:20,790 --> 02:02:19,119
this little plateau

3534
02:02:22,709 --> 02:02:20,800
and she's like here's where they said to

3535
02:02:26,709 --> 02:02:22,719
come i'm like oh this is it

3536
02:02:28,470 --> 02:02:26,719
and she screams and she says turn around

3537
02:02:31,270 --> 02:02:28,480
and grabs my shoulders and turns me

3538
02:02:33,270 --> 02:02:31,280
around and there it is and it's right in

3539
02:02:35,910 --> 02:02:33,280
front of us it's twice as close as it

3540
02:02:38,870 --> 02:02:35,920
was the first time it's like 20

3541
02:02:40,709 --> 02:02:38,880
50 feet away i mean it's close

3542
02:02:42,629 --> 02:02:40,719
it looked like a house

3543
02:02:44,550 --> 02:02:42,639
floating in the air

3544
02:02:47,750 --> 02:02:44,560
right in front of us like right across

3545
02:02:50,709 --> 02:02:47,760
the street i would say yeah 50 feet and

3546
02:02:54,229 --> 02:02:50,719
about the size of a

3547
02:02:55,910 --> 02:02:54,239
small house maybe a large room

3548
02:02:57,750 --> 02:02:55,920
perfect sphere

3549
02:03:01,270 --> 02:02:57,760
covered with golden lights

3550
02:03:06,470 --> 02:03:03,510
gorgeous that's the only word for it was

3551
02:03:07,589 --> 02:03:06,480
just magnificent it was so beautiful i

3552
02:03:09,350 --> 02:03:07,599
don't think i've ever seen anything

3553
02:03:11,669 --> 02:03:09,360
quite that beautiful it was covered in

3554
02:03:13,990 --> 02:03:11,679
golden lights that were scintillating

3555
02:03:15,669 --> 02:03:14,000
and sparkling in a way that normal

3556
02:03:17,750 --> 02:03:15,679
lights can't do

3557
02:03:19,430 --> 02:03:17,760
i mean i've never seen anything like it

3558
02:03:20,870 --> 02:03:19,440
we were jumping up and down we're

3559
02:03:22,390 --> 02:03:20,880
screaming i didn't want to take my eyes

3560
02:03:25,189 --> 02:03:22,400
off it i didn't even think about the

3561
02:03:26,229 --> 02:03:25,199
camera i did not even think of it

3562
02:03:27,189 --> 02:03:26,239
yeah

3563
02:03:29,350 --> 02:03:27,199
because i

3564
02:03:31,510 --> 02:03:29,360
um could not take my eyes out of it

3565
02:03:32,870 --> 02:03:31,520
as i say and that's always what seems i

3566
02:03:34,229 --> 02:03:32,880
mean we've heard this time and time

3567
02:03:35,510 --> 02:03:34,239
again and first of all even if you had a

3568
02:03:36,790 --> 02:03:35,520
really good camera which it sounds like

3569
02:03:38,550 --> 02:03:36,800
maybe you did

3570
02:03:40,950 --> 02:03:38,560
for an example i took a picture we all

3571
02:03:42,709 --> 02:03:40,960
know the moon is um beautiful right now

3572
02:03:43,910 --> 02:03:42,719
it's just massive right i was driving

3573
02:03:45,270 --> 02:03:43,920
back home from work the other night and

3574
02:03:46,790 --> 02:03:45,280
i i

3575
02:03:48,069 --> 02:03:46,800
i don't normally see something and

3576
02:03:49,589 --> 02:03:48,079
nearly want to just stop on the road but

3577
02:03:53,030 --> 02:03:49,599
i almost wanted to stop i could not

3578
02:03:54,229 --> 02:03:53,040
believe just how massive the moon i mean

3579
02:03:55,750 --> 02:03:54,239
normally you know we're talking holding

3580
02:03:57,830 --> 02:03:55,760
the thumb up to cover so i mean i had to

3581
02:04:00,149 --> 02:03:57,840
put my whole my fist up to try and cover

3582
02:04:01,830 --> 02:04:00,159
this up um it was just absolutely

3583
02:04:03,270 --> 02:04:01,840
amazing and i take up my phone to try

3584
02:04:05,350 --> 02:04:03,280
and get a video and a picture and i look

3585
02:04:06,629 --> 02:04:05,360
back at it now on that it's i would

3586
02:04:09,589 --> 02:04:06,639
never put that on the internet i would

3587
02:04:12,069 --> 02:04:09,599
never show anybody that but in person

3588
02:04:13,990 --> 02:04:12,079
that thing was so big versus what ended

3589
02:04:15,830 --> 02:04:14,000
up on my little itty bitty screen uh

3590
02:04:17,430 --> 02:04:15,840
anonymous rex thank you very very very

3591
02:04:19,030 --> 02:04:17,440
much for that uh super chat at least you

3592
02:04:20,870 --> 02:04:19,040
might have a question here let's see

3593
02:04:22,950 --> 02:04:20,880
preston could you discuss your opinion

3594
02:04:25,990 --> 02:04:22,960
of the 2019

3595
02:04:28,790 --> 02:04:26,000
uh bainbridge island tic tac event you

3596
02:04:30,229 --> 02:04:28,800
covered on encounter ufo

3597
02:04:31,510 --> 02:04:30,239
question thank you and thank you once

3598
02:04:32,950 --> 02:04:31,520
again for that super chat and then after

3599
02:04:34,149 --> 02:04:32,960
this i'm gonna bring in i got you

3600
02:04:36,709 --> 02:04:34,159
backstage there josh i'll bring you in

3601
02:04:39,030 --> 02:04:36,719
just after that okay

3602
02:04:42,229 --> 02:04:39,040
yeah tic tac incident is interesting

3603
02:04:44,550 --> 02:04:42,239
uh because we have trained observers who

3604
02:04:46,310 --> 02:04:44,560
are familiar with aircraft and you can

3605
02:04:48,390 --> 02:04:46,320
hear them you know on the audio because

3606
02:04:50,149 --> 02:04:48,400
there's audio of this and they're

3607
02:04:52,629 --> 02:04:50,159
swearing and they're like wow look at

3608
02:04:54,790 --> 02:04:52,639
that we got it

3609
02:04:57,189 --> 02:04:54,800
it's clear that they're impressed uh

3610
02:04:58,790 --> 02:04:57,199
this is a you know not the size of a tic

3611
02:05:00,390 --> 02:04:58,800
tac either

3612
02:05:01,990 --> 02:05:00,400
this is big

3613
02:05:03,510 --> 02:05:02,000
and uh

3614
02:05:05,270 --> 02:05:03,520
here's our government you know talking

3615
02:05:06,550 --> 02:05:05,280
about oh you know they this recent

3616
02:05:08,629 --> 02:05:06,560
disclosure

3617
02:05:10,229 --> 02:05:08,639
we have six sixties

3618
02:05:11,589 --> 02:05:10,239
what is it forty hundred and forty four

3619
02:05:15,030 --> 02:05:11,599
sightings

3620
02:05:17,510 --> 02:05:15,040
and we think some yes some might

3621
02:05:19,589 --> 02:05:17,520
be balloons oh deflated balloons they

3622
02:05:21,990 --> 02:05:19,599
went a step further this time deflated

3623
02:05:23,910 --> 02:05:22,000
balloons

3624
02:05:25,430 --> 02:05:23,920
it could be china maybe it's russia

3625
02:05:27,109 --> 02:05:25,440
maybe it's us

3626
02:05:30,069 --> 02:05:27,119
that that made me laugh out loud i'm

3627
02:05:32,470 --> 02:05:30,079
like us aren't you us

3628
02:05:34,629 --> 02:05:32,480
like wait we're talking in full-on

3629
02:05:37,430 --> 02:05:34,639
circles there and maybe and you could

3630
02:05:39,210 --> 02:05:37,440
hear them just aching to say the word

3631
02:05:41,669 --> 02:05:39,220
maybe it's extra

3632
02:05:43,430 --> 02:05:41,679
[Music]

3633
02:05:45,510 --> 02:05:43,440
and here's this tic tac incident and

3634
02:05:47,430 --> 02:05:45,520
when it's so in your face it's on film

3635
02:05:49,229 --> 02:05:47,440
it's darting around it's moving at super

3636
02:05:51,189 --> 02:05:49,239
high speeds it's got all the

3637
02:05:54,390 --> 02:05:51,199
characteristics

3638
02:05:58,149 --> 02:05:54,400
of these ufos that we hear about so

3639
02:05:59,750 --> 02:05:58,159
often it's undeniable

3640
02:06:03,030 --> 02:05:59,760
it's great evidence and they're saying

3641
02:06:05,109 --> 02:06:03,040
we don't know what it is liar i don't

3642
02:06:07,030 --> 02:06:05,119
believe you for a second the pilots know

3643
02:06:07,750 --> 02:06:07,040
what it is

3644
02:06:10,069 --> 02:06:07,760
they

3645
02:06:11,669 --> 02:06:10,079
called it right off the bat look it's a

3646
02:06:14,310 --> 02:06:11,679
ufo

3647
02:06:16,229 --> 02:06:14,320
um yeah this is that's a very active

3648
02:06:17,750 --> 02:06:16,239
area i'm like wow i'm not a bit

3649
02:06:20,950 --> 02:06:17,760
surprised to hear that this was off the

3650
02:06:23,109 --> 02:06:20,960
coast of southern california

3651
02:06:25,589 --> 02:06:23,119
because this is where there's so much

3652
02:06:28,069 --> 02:06:25,599
activity and i think honestly

3653
02:06:29,350 --> 02:06:28,079
with the et's and i

3654
02:06:30,950 --> 02:06:29,360
that's what i think we're dealing with

3655
02:06:32,950 --> 02:06:30,960
here is et's because there are some

3656
02:06:34,310 --> 02:06:32,960
researchers like ah you know this this

3657
02:06:35,510 --> 02:06:34,320
is a phenomenon that wears different

3658
02:06:36,310 --> 02:06:35,520
masks

3659
02:06:41,109 --> 02:06:36,320
yes

3660
02:06:43,910 --> 02:06:41,119
there's weird stuff going on in some of

3661
02:06:46,310 --> 02:06:43,920
these cases and maybe not all of it is

3662
02:06:48,709 --> 02:06:46,320
extraterrestrial but let's face it

3663
02:06:51,589 --> 02:06:48,719
we have the saucers

3664
02:06:54,149 --> 02:06:51,599
roswell you know aztec the paradise

3665
02:06:55,510 --> 02:06:54,159
valley crash kecksburg i could go on we

3666
02:06:58,709 --> 02:06:55,520
have the alien bodies how many

3667
02:07:00,149 --> 02:06:58,719
whistleblowers do you need all bets are

3668
02:07:02,709 --> 02:07:00,159
off once that

3669
02:07:05,030 --> 02:07:02,719
really comes out into the public arena

3670
02:07:07,270 --> 02:07:05,040
but we know what this is at least the

3671
02:07:09,990 --> 02:07:07,280
government does this is aliens

3672
02:07:12,229 --> 02:07:10,000
and i think the aliens were showing off

3673
02:07:14,149 --> 02:07:12,239
honestly i think they're like all right

3674
02:07:16,709 --> 02:07:14,159
we're gonna do this again they're doing

3675
02:07:18,470 --> 02:07:16,719
a very carefully measured publicity

3676
02:07:20,310 --> 02:07:18,480
campaign

3677
02:07:21,990 --> 02:07:20,320
they are on top of things they know

3678
02:07:23,750 --> 02:07:22,000
exactly how people are gonna react they

3679
02:07:25,830 --> 02:07:23,760
know what they're doing

3680
02:07:27,990 --> 02:07:25,840
uh and i think they planned all of this

3681
02:07:30,790 --> 02:07:28,000
honestly i really do that's speculation

3682
02:07:33,109 --> 02:07:30,800
on my part and i hate to speculate but

3683
02:07:36,550 --> 02:07:33,119
man oh man that's what the evidence to

3684
02:07:39,270 --> 02:07:37,750
i agree

3685
02:07:40,790 --> 02:07:39,280
um well i'll tell you what guys really

3686
02:07:42,069 --> 02:07:40,800
quick uh because i know that josh has

3687
02:07:42,870 --> 02:07:42,079
some questions and i agree with what

3688
02:07:45,750 --> 02:07:42,880
you're saying and there's a little more

3689
02:07:47,990 --> 02:07:45,760
to hit on this with it as far as the um

3690
02:07:49,030 --> 02:07:48,000
it seems and i i've even heard dave say

3691
02:07:50,629 --> 02:07:49,040
this too and i gotta agree with him it

3692
02:07:52,310 --> 02:07:50,639
feels like there's a

3693
02:07:54,069 --> 02:07:52,320
there's been a a countdown that's been

3694
02:07:55,510 --> 02:07:54,079
going on for a while and it feels like

3695
02:07:58,229 --> 02:07:55,520
it's been exponentially sped up we're

3696
02:07:59,510 --> 02:07:58,239
coming to near the end of it um so with

3697
02:08:01,430 --> 02:07:59,520
all that though josh i'd like to bring

3698
02:08:03,830 --> 02:08:01,440
in uh thank you very much for helping me

3699
02:08:05,189 --> 02:08:03,840
get in contact with uh with preston i

3700
02:08:07,430 --> 02:08:05,199
know you impressed know each other uh

3701
02:08:09,589 --> 02:08:07,440
quite a bit so uh feel free to ask any

3702
02:08:10,709 --> 02:08:09,599
questions you have um and then guys like

3703
02:08:11,910 --> 02:08:10,719
i said in a couple minutes here i'll

3704
02:08:13,350 --> 02:08:11,920
open up the chat

3705
02:08:14,950 --> 02:08:13,360
to uh get a couple questions in for

3706
02:08:17,109 --> 02:08:14,960
preston if anybody wants to hop in and

3707
02:08:18,229 --> 02:08:17,119
ask any questions at all tonight so josh

3708
02:08:19,830 --> 02:08:18,239
thank you once again for helping the

3709
02:08:21,510 --> 02:08:19,840
garage tonight

3710
02:08:23,189 --> 02:08:21,520
of course first off can you hear me i

3711
02:08:24,870 --> 02:08:23,199
just got this headset i want to make

3712
02:08:27,030 --> 02:08:24,880
sure it's working right

3713
02:08:29,350 --> 02:08:27,040
i can yep i can hear you

3714
02:08:32,229 --> 02:08:29,360
awesome preston it's so good to see you

3715
02:08:34,229 --> 02:08:32,239
man it's so surreal because

3716
02:08:36,790 --> 02:08:34,239
you're the first person i really got in

3717
02:08:38,229 --> 02:08:36,800
contact with whenever i had my epiphany

3718
02:08:40,069 --> 02:08:38,239
at the beginning this year before i even

3719
02:08:41,830 --> 02:08:40,079
got back in contact with the boycott

3720
02:08:43,910 --> 02:08:41,840
family who i grew up with

3721
02:08:45,430 --> 02:08:43,920
and um initially i thought this was

3722
02:08:46,950 --> 02:08:45,440
really cool and then whenever i started

3723
02:08:48,870 --> 02:08:46,960
realizing that it was

3724
02:08:51,350 --> 02:08:48,880
it was real it started freaking me out a

3725
02:08:53,030 --> 02:08:51,360
little bit and um

3726
02:08:55,030 --> 02:08:53,040
some of the things that you covered as

3727
02:08:57,270 --> 02:08:55,040
far as like zimbabwe and

3728
02:08:59,589 --> 02:08:57,280
the healings and stuff like that

3729
02:09:02,069 --> 02:08:59,599
it really helped me put a lot of peace

3730
02:09:03,669 --> 02:09:02,079
in mind but um i didn't realize that

3731
02:09:05,430 --> 02:09:03,679
first one that i got in contact with

3732
02:09:07,510 --> 02:09:05,440
either that you were also a former

3733
02:09:10,229 --> 02:09:07,520
skeptic in all this i feel like there's

3734
02:09:11,109 --> 02:09:10,239
a lot of parallels between me and you

3735
02:09:12,550 --> 02:09:11,119
and um

3736
02:09:14,709 --> 02:09:12,560
yeah i feel yeah

3737
02:09:16,069 --> 02:09:14,719
i freaked out too i know exactly what

3738
02:09:18,550 --> 02:09:16,079
that's yeah

3739
02:09:21,350 --> 02:09:18,560
it's not easy i went through like a good

3740
02:09:23,270 --> 02:09:21,360
month of like paranoia and um yeah i

3741
02:09:24,950 --> 02:09:23,280
happened to pick up my phone one day and

3742
02:09:26,629 --> 02:09:24,960
put on youtube and you were live with

3743
02:09:28,790 --> 02:09:26,639
martin willis and as soon as i cut on

3744
02:09:30,470 --> 02:09:28,800
you're taking a phone call it was pure

3745
02:09:31,589 --> 02:09:30,480
chance i got in contact with you to be

3746
02:09:32,950 --> 02:09:31,599
honest

3747
02:09:34,550 --> 02:09:32,960
um

3748
02:09:36,629 --> 02:09:34,560
i know you know that i've been having

3749
02:09:39,350 --> 02:09:36,639
some more exciting this year um

3750
02:09:41,030 --> 02:09:39,360
especially my recent visits over to the

3751
02:09:42,149 --> 02:09:41,040
blesso family

3752
02:09:43,510 --> 02:09:42,159
um

3753
02:09:44,830 --> 02:09:43,520
first off i want to ask you a question

3754
02:09:47,669 --> 02:09:44,840
that's a little bit

3755
02:09:49,750 --> 02:09:47,679
personal i've um i don't mind using my

3756
02:09:50,790 --> 02:09:49,760
name like talking to people in this

3757
02:09:52,790 --> 02:09:50,800
community

3758
02:09:54,390 --> 02:09:52,800
but i live here in north carolina in the

3759
02:09:55,990 --> 02:09:54,400
bible built and

3760
02:09:57,430 --> 02:09:56,000
you know you mentioned stuff about ufos

3761
02:09:59,510 --> 02:09:57,440
around here and a lot of people look at

3762
02:10:01,270 --> 02:09:59,520
you like you're crazy but as far as the

3763
02:10:02,870 --> 02:10:01,280
thing with um

3764
02:10:04,709 --> 02:10:02,880
the phenomenon

3765
02:10:07,189 --> 02:10:04,719
having a connection with bloodlines i

3766
02:10:09,510 --> 02:10:07,199
recently found out that my

3767
02:10:11,589 --> 02:10:09,520
very close family in birmingham

3768
02:10:14,870 --> 02:10:11,599
is having experiences as well but it's

3769
02:10:17,350 --> 02:10:14,880
more along the lines of paranormal um

3770
02:10:19,589 --> 02:10:17,360
i guess spirit ghost type things and

3771
02:10:21,990 --> 02:10:19,599
that's completely okay with my family

3772
02:10:23,510 --> 02:10:22,000
and i haven't opened up to them exactly

3773
02:10:25,510 --> 02:10:23,520
with what i'm going through but i tried

3774
02:10:27,189 --> 02:10:25,520
to hint at it a little bit and i started

3775
02:10:29,990 --> 02:10:27,199
getting bad vibes so i just kind of

3776
02:10:32,390 --> 02:10:30,000
dropped it i i don't understand why is

3777
02:10:34,069 --> 02:10:32,400
it so acceptable for people

3778
02:10:35,830 --> 02:10:34,079
in certain areas of the world to believe

3779
02:10:37,350 --> 02:10:35,840
in things like ghosts and

3780
02:10:39,510 --> 02:10:37,360
you know spirits but then as soon as you

3781
02:10:42,229 --> 02:10:39,520
mention something like ufos you look

3782
02:10:43,430 --> 02:10:42,239
looked at like you're crazy you think um

3783
02:10:44,629 --> 02:10:43,440
i do believe that you know they're

3784
02:10:46,870 --> 02:10:44,639
separate in a sense but do you think

3785
02:10:48,310 --> 02:10:46,880
there's a connection between all this my

3786
02:10:53,109 --> 02:10:48,320
question

3787
02:10:55,669 --> 02:10:53,119
i do i started you know the more i talk

3788
02:10:58,069 --> 02:10:55,679
to people who are having encounters they

3789
02:11:00,229 --> 02:10:58,079
had a wide variety of paranormal events

3790
02:11:03,189 --> 02:11:00,239
and it's not at all unusual for

3791
02:11:04,870 --> 02:11:03,199
a contact d to who start having major

3792
02:11:07,669 --> 02:11:04,880
experiences

3793
02:11:09,990 --> 02:11:07,679
to start to have all kinds of paranormal

3794
02:11:11,990 --> 02:11:10,000
events and that definitely includes

3795
02:11:14,709 --> 02:11:12,000
ghostly encounters

3796
02:11:17,270 --> 02:11:14,719
and uh yeah i myself you know started

3797
02:11:18,790 --> 02:11:17,280
having weird paranormal events right

3798
02:11:20,709 --> 02:11:18,800
along when i started investigating and

3799
02:11:22,709 --> 02:11:20,719
seeing ufos

3800
02:11:25,669 --> 02:11:22,719
so i kind of know

3801
02:11:27,189 --> 02:11:25,679
it's weird i've heard that

3802
02:11:27,990 --> 02:11:27,199
i've seen that before people would be

3803
02:11:29,750 --> 02:11:28,000
like

3804
02:11:32,310 --> 02:11:29,760
oh yeah it goes fine

3805
02:11:34,470 --> 02:11:32,320
ufos i don't believe in those

3806
02:11:36,069 --> 02:11:34,480
and i've had contact to use like they're

3807
02:11:39,910 --> 02:11:36,079
fine with seeing et's but they're like

3808
02:11:41,430 --> 02:11:39,920
no go scare me and i'm like wow but you

3809
02:11:43,430 --> 02:11:41,440
you see aliens but now you're bothered

3810
02:11:44,229 --> 02:11:43,440
about ghosts

3811
02:11:46,870 --> 02:11:44,239
and

3812
02:11:47,830 --> 02:11:46,880
sometimes these two phenomena come right

3813
02:11:49,830 --> 02:11:47,840
on

3814
02:11:52,870 --> 02:11:49,840
the same time i mean

3815
02:11:55,350 --> 02:11:52,880
i investigated ghosts a lot actually

3816
02:11:57,830 --> 02:11:55,360
because a lot of people were saying i'd

3817
02:11:59,589 --> 02:11:57,840
ask mao you saw ufo anything else oh

3818
02:12:01,350 --> 02:11:59,599
yeah my house is haunted

3819
02:12:02,950 --> 02:12:01,360
like really

3820
02:12:05,750 --> 02:12:02,960
and that happens a lot with contactings

3821
02:12:08,550 --> 02:12:05,760
they see shadow people

3822
02:12:11,030 --> 02:12:08,560
i've experienced other people preston um

3823
02:12:13,830 --> 02:12:11,040
just recently actually uh willie knows

3824
02:12:15,990 --> 02:12:13,840
this that's um kind of why i'm asking

3825
02:12:17,750 --> 02:12:16,000
you this to be honest um

3826
02:12:18,950 --> 02:12:17,760
i just opened up the big willy and a

3827
02:12:20,550 --> 02:12:18,960
couple people in this chat you're not

3828
02:12:22,149 --> 02:12:20,560
too long about that it scared me to be

3829
02:12:23,830 --> 02:12:22,159
honest i still don't know much about

3830
02:12:26,069 --> 02:12:23,840
shadow people i'm sorry i didn't mean to

3831
02:12:27,990 --> 02:12:26,079
interrupt you there no no no i'm glad

3832
02:12:29,510 --> 02:12:28,000
you did because i wonder about

3833
02:12:30,950 --> 02:12:29,520
you know i didn't

3834
02:12:33,669 --> 02:12:30,960
wasn't getting a whole lot of reports

3835
02:12:35,109 --> 02:12:33,679
until more recently last 10 years i

3836
02:12:36,229 --> 02:12:35,119
would say

3837
02:12:37,750 --> 02:12:36,239
and that's

3838
02:12:40,790 --> 02:12:37,760
regular for people who are having

3839
02:12:42,390 --> 02:12:40,800
contact of any kind is shadow people

3840
02:12:44,229 --> 02:12:42,400
and i don't know quite what's going on

3841
02:12:46,149 --> 02:12:44,239
here i know a lady you know the lady in

3842
02:12:47,830 --> 02:12:46,159
florida i'm talking to she sees them all

3843
02:12:48,790 --> 02:12:47,840
the time too

3844
02:12:50,709 --> 02:12:48,800
i'm like what do you think they are

3845
02:12:52,149 --> 02:12:50,719
she's like i'm not sure

3846
02:12:55,750 --> 02:12:52,159
i think they're interdimensional

3847
02:13:02,069 --> 02:12:58,950
maybe not humans very warm

3848
02:13:04,069 --> 02:13:02,079
yeah orbs could be spirits and et's too

3849
02:13:06,149 --> 02:13:04,079
some of the orbs are absolutely what we

3850
02:13:08,149 --> 02:13:06,159
would think of as ghosts

3851
02:13:10,709 --> 02:13:08,159
and they will suddenly elongate and

3852
02:13:13,030 --> 02:13:10,719
there's your grandma who passed away or

3853
02:13:14,629 --> 02:13:13,040
sometimes they long and it's a gray

3854
02:13:17,669 --> 02:13:14,639
stepping out of the orb

3855
02:13:19,109 --> 02:13:17,679
that happens yeah yeah the whole orb

3856
02:13:21,189 --> 02:13:19,119
thing is really

3857
02:13:23,109 --> 02:13:21,199
amazing some of them are like i think

3858
02:13:25,830 --> 02:13:23,119
probes from the craft

3859
02:13:27,589 --> 02:13:25,840
but some i think are actually entities

3860
02:13:29,109 --> 02:13:27,599
themselves

3861
02:13:30,870 --> 02:13:29,119
and uh yeah

3862
02:13:32,709 --> 02:13:30,880
when you start seeing stuff regularly

3863
02:13:34,550 --> 02:13:32,719
that's a big sign

3864
02:13:36,069 --> 02:13:34,560
that they are aware of you

3865
02:13:37,669 --> 02:13:36,079
they know yeah

3866
02:13:39,830 --> 02:13:37,679
that actually kind of went straight to

3867
02:13:40,950 --> 02:13:39,840
my next question i was going to ask you

3868
02:13:42,470 --> 02:13:40,960
um

3869
02:13:44,870 --> 02:13:42,480
because recently i've seen some orbs

3870
02:13:47,430 --> 02:13:44,880
that kind of look like they changed in

3871
02:13:50,390 --> 02:13:47,440
shape a little bit for him in size i

3872
02:13:52,149 --> 02:13:50,400
wish i i guess you're aware of that um

3873
02:13:53,270 --> 02:13:52,159
i was going to ask you if you think um

3874
02:13:55,510 --> 02:13:53,280
there's

3875
02:13:58,470 --> 02:13:55,520
the orcs could cover a variety of

3876
02:14:00,709 --> 02:13:58,480
different phenomena um i've also seen

3877
02:14:03,430 --> 02:14:00,719
three different colors now orange

3878
02:14:05,830 --> 02:14:03,440
um a white and like a goldish amber

3879
02:14:07,189 --> 02:14:05,840
colored orbs so i'm i've been looking at

3880
02:14:08,790 --> 02:14:07,199
like compressed energy i've been

3881
02:14:09,669 --> 02:14:08,800
thinking maybe it's you know like you

3882
02:14:11,270 --> 02:14:09,679
said

3883
02:14:12,870 --> 02:14:11,280
um more than one different type of

3884
02:14:14,149 --> 02:14:12,880
phenomena

3885
02:14:15,669 --> 02:14:14,159
yeah

3886
02:14:17,030 --> 02:14:15,679
there's i

3887
02:14:18,629 --> 02:14:17,040
hasn't been a whole lot of research on

3888
02:14:20,229 --> 02:14:18,639
orb surprisingly

3889
02:14:21,669 --> 02:14:20,239
and now people are getting a lot of

3890
02:14:24,390 --> 02:14:21,679
interest because the photographic

3891
02:14:26,390 --> 02:14:24,400
evidence is outstanding

3892
02:14:28,310 --> 02:14:26,400
i know a contactee

3893
02:14:30,470 --> 02:14:28,320
he has a picture of him he was just

3894
02:14:31,270 --> 02:14:30,480
covered in these orbs

3895
02:14:33,589 --> 02:14:31,280
and

3896
02:14:35,990 --> 02:14:33,599
people have orbs that follow him around

3897
02:14:37,510 --> 02:14:36,000
and yeah i think they are probably

3898
02:14:38,870 --> 02:14:37,520
different things i think some are

3899
02:14:41,189 --> 02:14:38,880
spirits

3900
02:14:42,950 --> 02:14:41,199
i think some are ets i think some are

3901
02:14:44,870 --> 02:14:42,960
probes and i think some are

3902
02:14:48,149 --> 02:14:44,880
energy

3903
02:14:49,990 --> 02:14:48,159
um that's just sort of manifesting

3904
02:14:51,350 --> 02:14:50,000
i honestly don't know i went to see a

3905
02:14:53,430 --> 02:14:51,360
channeler once

3906
02:14:56,390 --> 02:14:53,440
and i'm talking to

3907
02:14:58,790 --> 02:14:56,400
my christy actually my sister-in-law and

3908
02:15:00,390 --> 02:14:58,800
uh wendy was there too

3909
02:15:02,229 --> 02:15:00,400
lady i've been talking about and

3910
02:15:04,149 --> 02:15:02,239
suddenly i see this orb coming between

3911
02:15:05,189 --> 02:15:04,159
us and had this weird interdimensional

3912
02:15:06,950 --> 02:15:05,199
look to it

3913
02:15:08,870 --> 02:15:06,960
and i start cracking it with my eye and

3914
02:15:11,030 --> 02:15:08,880
christy's like i see it too and so it's

3915
02:15:13,189 --> 02:15:11,040
like wendy like ah we're all watching

3916
02:15:14,790 --> 02:15:13,199
this this is inside

3917
02:15:16,069 --> 02:15:14,800
and so they will come into your house

3918
02:15:18,149 --> 02:15:16,079
through

3919
02:15:19,830 --> 02:15:18,159
the walls and stuff and

3920
02:15:22,229 --> 02:15:19,840
i think there might be around us a lot

3921
02:15:24,229 --> 02:15:22,239
more than we realize i am not sure what

3922
02:15:27,030 --> 02:15:24,239
we're dealing with here

3923
02:15:28,550 --> 02:15:27,040
uh i've seen them pop up in pictures

3924
02:15:31,030 --> 02:15:28,560
sorry i didn't mean to touch all these

3925
02:15:33,270 --> 02:15:31,040
you know i've seen pictures where um

3926
02:15:34,629 --> 02:15:33,280
a couple people i talked to recently

3927
02:15:36,229 --> 02:15:34,639
took a picture and didn't think there

3928
02:15:38,149 --> 02:15:36,239
was anything in the frame and then they

3929
02:15:40,550 --> 02:15:38,159
look at the picture afterwards and see

3930
02:15:41,350 --> 02:15:40,560
what looks like orbs you know um

3931
02:15:43,270 --> 02:15:41,360
yeah

3932
02:15:45,189 --> 02:15:43,280
i completely agree with that

3933
02:15:46,870 --> 02:15:45,199
um and chris bledsoe just told me that

3934
02:15:49,030 --> 02:15:46,880
he's well i've known for a little bit

3935
02:15:51,189 --> 02:15:49,040
now he's had orcs pop up into his house

3936
02:15:53,510 --> 02:15:51,199
but like you said it's not like the

3937
02:15:55,430 --> 02:15:53,520
balls of light that he sees outside

3938
02:15:56,550 --> 02:15:55,440
exactly like what you said almost like a

3939
02:15:58,870 --> 02:15:56,560
more

3940
02:16:02,709 --> 02:15:58,880
i don't know like ectoplasmy kind of

3941
02:16:05,189 --> 02:16:02,719
spiritual type energy thing um

3942
02:16:07,750 --> 02:16:05,199
i've heard some people say well if it's

3943
02:16:09,830 --> 02:16:07,760
if it's got fuzzy edges it's probably a

3944
02:16:12,390 --> 02:16:09,840
spirit or an entity and if it's a hard

3945
02:16:14,790 --> 02:16:12,400
edged thing it could be

3946
02:16:15,830 --> 02:16:14,800
an actual alien probe i don't know if

3947
02:16:17,189 --> 02:16:15,840
that's true

3948
02:16:18,470 --> 02:16:17,199
but someone did tell me that and i'm

3949
02:16:20,390 --> 02:16:18,480
like well that's kind of interesting you

3950
02:16:21,750 --> 02:16:20,400
have to watch out for that

3951
02:16:23,270 --> 02:16:21,760
that's a whole nother part that we kind

3952
02:16:25,830 --> 02:16:23,280
of left out with all this for you is

3953
02:16:27,589 --> 02:16:25,840
that you know you study a lot of this as

3954
02:16:29,350 --> 02:16:27,599
you've mentioned along the way have you

3955
02:16:31,669 --> 02:16:29,360
written any books in regards to just a

3956
02:16:34,790 --> 02:16:31,679
strictly paranormal

3957
02:16:37,190 --> 02:16:34,800
i guess book of any sense oh yeah i put

3958
02:16:39,669 --> 02:16:37,200
up a couple of books on ghosts

3959
02:16:42,389 --> 02:16:39,679
bigfoot because that came marching into

3960
02:16:44,549 --> 02:16:42,399
my life boy i did not want that i like

3961
02:16:46,790 --> 02:16:44,559
no please no not bigfoot it might be

3962
02:16:49,110 --> 02:16:46,800
real what if it's real

3963
02:16:50,469 --> 02:16:49,120
and it was of course and uh yeah

3964
02:16:52,389 --> 02:16:50,479
levitation

3965
02:16:54,309 --> 02:16:52,399
autobody experiences

3966
02:16:56,709 --> 02:16:54,319
i've looked into all of this because it

3967
02:16:59,270 --> 02:16:56,719
is connected i mean i had a case where

3968
02:17:01,429 --> 02:16:59,280
i was investigating a haunted apartment

3969
02:17:03,349 --> 02:17:01,439
and it was bad it was like really bad

3970
02:17:05,589 --> 02:17:03,359
goats all the way up to possession and

3971
02:17:07,750 --> 02:17:05,599
they moved out and had a major ufo

3972
02:17:11,349 --> 02:17:07,760
encounter like a week later

3973
02:17:13,429 --> 02:17:11,359
how does that happen that is weird

3974
02:17:14,950 --> 02:17:13,439
i just got another question for you

3975
02:17:15,990 --> 02:17:14,960
oh i'm sorry josh just i'm sorry really

3976
02:17:17,589 --> 02:17:16,000
quick i'll just get this question and

3977
02:17:18,950 --> 02:17:17,599
then you can go ahead and go for it um

3978
02:17:20,230 --> 02:17:18,960
melissa was actually asked she said what

3979
02:17:21,589 --> 02:17:20,240
is preston's stance on people

3980
02:17:23,910 --> 02:17:21,599
associating it's funny we just brought

3981
02:17:25,990 --> 02:17:23,920
this up bigfoot dog man and other

3982
02:17:28,070 --> 02:17:26,000
cryptids with the ufos especially around

3983
02:17:30,070 --> 02:17:28,080
skinwalker ranch does he think that

3984
02:17:31,910 --> 02:17:30,080
there's any correlation

3985
02:17:33,429 --> 02:17:31,920
yeah i absolutely do

3986
02:17:35,110 --> 02:17:33,439
and i looked into bigfoot and i can tell

3987
02:17:37,589 --> 02:17:35,120
you unequivocally

3988
02:17:39,349 --> 02:17:37,599
conclusively it's real

3989
02:17:41,509 --> 02:17:39,359
the evidence stretches back hundreds of

3990
02:17:43,990 --> 02:17:41,519
years it's not just eyewitness accounts

3991
02:17:45,509 --> 02:17:44,000
there's hair samples or footprints it's

3992
02:17:47,990 --> 02:17:45,519
real

3993
02:17:49,349 --> 02:17:48,000
there's a lot of footage it's all over

3994
02:17:51,349 --> 02:17:49,359
the world

3995
02:17:53,750 --> 02:17:51,359
and uh multiple witness cases i mean the

3996
02:17:56,629 --> 02:17:53,760
evidence is outstanding and most people

3997
02:18:00,629 --> 02:17:56,639
see bigfoot sasquatch yeti it goes by

3998
02:18:03,110 --> 02:18:00,639
different names depending where you are

3999
02:18:04,629 --> 02:18:03,120
don't see ufos and those people who have

4000
02:18:06,309 --> 02:18:04,639
ufo colors aren't going to encounter a

4001
02:18:07,589 --> 02:18:06,319
bigfoot but there's a smattering of

4002
02:18:11,030 --> 02:18:07,599
cases

4003
02:18:12,629 --> 02:18:11,040
50 or 100 of them where they appear at

4004
02:18:14,549 --> 02:18:12,639
the same time

4005
02:18:17,270 --> 02:18:14,559
people see bigfoot coming out of the ufo

4006
02:18:19,509 --> 02:18:17,280
or climbing into one or

4007
02:18:22,830 --> 02:18:19,519
are taking aboard a ufo and there's a

4008
02:18:25,270 --> 02:18:22,840
darn bigfoot inside the

4009
02:18:26,950 --> 02:18:25,280
ufo and i had my own case and that's

4010
02:18:30,150 --> 02:18:26,960
what got me into it this guy in canyon

4011
02:18:31,669 --> 02:18:30,160
country had a ufo land in his backyard

4012
02:18:34,150 --> 02:18:31,679
bigfoot came the next night and then he

4013
02:18:35,589 --> 02:18:34,160
had a huge poltergeist outbreak

4014
02:18:37,990 --> 02:18:35,599
you can't tell me the stuff is not

4015
02:18:40,870 --> 02:18:38,000
connected i don't know what is going on

4016
02:18:44,070 --> 02:18:40,880
here maybe it opens a rift

4017
02:18:46,070 --> 02:18:44,080
maybe it one attracts the other

4018
02:18:47,750 --> 02:18:46,080
bigfoot is telepathic by the way there's

4019
02:18:49,429 --> 02:18:47,760
lots of cases where bigfoot reads

4020
02:18:52,070 --> 02:18:49,439
people's mind and

4021
02:18:54,870 --> 02:18:52,080
the et's are profoundly telepathic there

4022
02:18:55,990 --> 02:18:54,880
could be something going on there

4023
02:18:58,070 --> 02:18:56,000
something's going on i'm glad you

4024
02:19:00,790 --> 02:18:58,080
brought that up josh because

4025
02:19:02,709 --> 02:19:00,800
oh yeah i mean

4026
02:19:04,950 --> 02:19:02,719
and sonny um

4027
02:19:06,549 --> 02:19:04,960
just like you said i never i mean i

4028
02:19:08,629 --> 02:19:06,559
never thought i'd believe in ufos until

4029
02:19:09,990 --> 02:19:08,639
a year ago but it wasn't until about a

4030
02:19:11,990 --> 02:19:10,000
couple weeks ago

4031
02:19:13,589 --> 02:19:12,000
i started accepting the possibility of

4032
02:19:15,830 --> 02:19:13,599
bigfoot whenever people started telling

4033
02:19:17,509 --> 02:19:15,840
me that he could be an interdimensional

4034
02:19:19,830 --> 02:19:17,519
spiritual being and i'm thinking well

4035
02:19:22,790 --> 02:19:19,840
i've seen wolves pop up you know and

4036
02:19:24,469 --> 02:19:22,800
thin air and then a pork and beans

4037
02:19:26,629 --> 02:19:24,479
podcast i think have you been on there

4038
02:19:27,990 --> 02:19:26,639
before with um yeah

4039
02:19:29,669 --> 02:19:28,000
yeah

4040
02:19:31,030 --> 02:19:29,679
um me and sonny from paranormal

4041
02:19:33,669 --> 02:19:31,040
chocolate are going to be on there on

4042
02:19:35,589 --> 02:19:33,679
tuesday and he was just showing us um

4043
02:19:37,429 --> 02:19:35,599
pictures it's actually what really got

4044
02:19:39,429 --> 02:19:37,439
it on my mind where

4045
02:19:40,709 --> 02:19:39,439
he saw you might have seen this picture

4046
02:19:42,549 --> 02:19:40,719
i think he said he saw something going

4047
02:19:44,629 --> 02:19:42,559
to the woods and he took a picture and

4048
02:19:46,309 --> 02:19:44,639
just like i was saying earlier

4049
02:19:47,429 --> 02:19:46,319
didn't see anything but when he looked

4050
02:19:50,630 --> 02:19:47,439
at the

4051
02:19:52,870 --> 02:19:50,640
the actual pictures like orbs everywhere

4052
02:19:54,550 --> 02:19:52,880
and he's thinking maybe possibly

4053
02:19:57,590 --> 02:19:54,560
bigfoot could be an interdimensional

4054
02:19:59,110 --> 02:19:57,600
being it was or his energy or something

4055
02:20:01,030 --> 02:19:59,120
along the lines of that

4056
02:20:03,910 --> 02:20:01,040
um i definitely believe it's connected

4057
02:20:06,150 --> 02:20:03,920
and some [\h__\h] away like you said yeah

4058
02:20:08,630 --> 02:20:06,160
definitely some of these bigfoot have

4059
02:20:10,230 --> 02:20:08,640
are very like interdimensional like

4060
02:20:12,550 --> 02:20:10,240
i had a case where a guy

4061
02:20:14,309 --> 02:20:12,560
had a bigfoot appear and disappear in

4062
02:20:16,550 --> 02:20:14,319
front of him literally i mean not like

4063
02:20:18,389 --> 02:20:16,560
run away it became visible and then

4064
02:20:20,950 --> 02:20:18,399
became invisible

4065
02:20:23,429 --> 02:20:20,960
and there's a number of cases like that

4066
02:20:24,790 --> 02:20:23,439
and yeah i think that some i'm not i

4067
02:20:26,389 --> 02:20:24,800
think there's probably different types

4068
02:20:28,710 --> 02:20:26,399
some might just be

4069
02:20:30,870 --> 02:20:28,720
a primate like us but we're

4070
02:20:32,710 --> 02:20:30,880
interdimensional too i mean we can go

4071
02:20:34,710 --> 02:20:32,720
out of body and if you're super

4072
02:20:36,070 --> 02:20:34,720
spiritually advanced

4073
02:20:38,790 --> 02:20:36,080
and there's cases people have the

4074
02:20:42,150 --> 02:20:38,800
ability to levitate or teleport or turn

4075
02:20:44,790 --> 02:20:42,160
invisible and do all kinds of stuff

4076
02:20:46,389 --> 02:20:44,800
so i think run a book on protection

4077
02:20:48,389 --> 02:20:46,399
before

4078
02:20:50,070 --> 02:20:48,399
yeah i was gonna say you wrote a book on

4079
02:20:51,270 --> 02:20:50,080
uh or something about astral projection

4080
02:20:53,349 --> 02:20:51,280
didn't you

4081
02:20:56,150 --> 02:20:53,359
i love love love the yeah actual

4082
02:20:58,309 --> 02:20:56,160
projection i got really really into it

4083
02:21:00,950 --> 02:20:58,319
uh that's kind of what brought all of

4084
02:21:02,950 --> 02:21:00,960
this on in a weird way because in 1984

4085
02:21:05,590 --> 02:21:02,960
my mom passed away

4086
02:21:07,030 --> 02:21:05,600
and uh i saw her ghost didn't believe it

4087
02:21:08,550 --> 02:21:07,040
for a second

4088
02:21:10,230 --> 02:21:08,560
but started

4089
02:21:12,870 --> 02:21:10,240
reading about astral projection started

4090
02:21:16,230 --> 02:21:12,880
trying to do it and that was exactly

4091
02:21:18,710 --> 02:21:16,240
when i started you know the ufo research

4092
02:21:20,950 --> 02:21:18,720
so that that totally blew my belief

4093
02:21:22,790 --> 02:21:20,960
system apart into little pieces

4094
02:21:24,070 --> 02:21:22,800
yeah we can go out of our body

4095
02:21:25,750 --> 02:21:24,080
i taught people how to do it i've

4096
02:21:30,469 --> 02:21:25,760
written a book on this it's not that

4097
02:21:34,469 --> 02:21:32,309
wow

4098
02:21:36,070 --> 02:21:34,479
just really quick oh sorry josh

4099
02:21:37,910 --> 02:21:36,080
as i say just a quick question here from

4100
02:21:39,670 --> 02:21:37,920
rainy crews uh

4101
02:21:41,270 --> 02:21:39,680
i don't i don't know if uh preston if

4102
02:21:44,150 --> 02:21:41,280
you know are familiar with this case but

4103
02:21:46,389 --> 02:21:44,160
they were saying uh iraq geologists uh

4104
02:21:49,110 --> 02:21:46,399
chess got burned from the ufo

4105
02:21:51,030 --> 02:21:49,120
uh from a ufo fire exhaust in the falcon

4106
02:21:52,630 --> 02:21:51,040
lake incident did are you familiar with

4107
02:21:56,150 --> 02:21:52,640
this one or no

4108
02:21:57,270 --> 02:21:56,160
oh yeah yeah that's stefan mccallick

4109
02:21:59,110 --> 02:21:57,280
canada

4110
02:22:00,630 --> 02:21:59,120
got too close to a landed ufo i don't

4111
02:22:02,710 --> 02:22:00,640
think they intentionally

4112
02:22:04,870 --> 02:22:02,720
burned him there are a few cases of

4113
02:22:07,990 --> 02:22:04,880
burns and most of them i think are

4114
02:22:10,710 --> 02:22:08,000
accidental i'm not going to say all

4115
02:22:13,110 --> 02:22:10,720
but he definitely approached a landed

4116
02:22:14,950 --> 02:22:13,120
ufo and it took off and he had these

4117
02:22:18,389 --> 02:22:14,960
grid marks on his chest

4118
02:22:22,950 --> 02:22:21,110
exhaust thing on this ufo it's a weird

4119
02:22:24,389 --> 02:22:22,960
case he did

4120
02:22:26,469 --> 02:22:24,399
hear the et's talk i don't know if he

4121
02:22:28,309 --> 02:22:26,479
actually saw them but the door was open

4122
02:22:29,590 --> 02:22:28,319
when he approached

4123
02:22:32,150 --> 02:22:29,600
he's trying to speak to them in

4124
02:22:34,870 --> 02:22:32,160
different languages they didn't answer

4125
02:22:37,270 --> 02:22:34,880
he and caught his shirt on fire he got a

4126
02:22:38,469 --> 02:22:37,280
headache started vomiting rushed to the

4127
02:22:40,070 --> 02:22:38,479
hospital

4128
02:22:41,670 --> 02:22:40,080
he lost a lot of weight

4129
02:22:44,070 --> 02:22:41,680
diarrhea

4130
02:22:45,110 --> 02:22:44,080
you know the whole deal and was examined

4131
02:22:47,910 --> 02:22:45,120
by

4132
02:22:49,830 --> 02:22:47,920
it was like 40 doctors

4133
02:22:52,230 --> 02:22:49,840
and they said it's got to be radiation

4134
02:22:53,429 --> 02:22:52,240
sickness his blood lymphocyte level

4135
02:22:55,590 --> 02:22:53,439
dropped

4136
02:22:58,070 --> 02:22:55,600
dramatically dangerously

4137
02:22:59,670 --> 02:22:58,080
uh yeah he was pretty badly

4138
02:23:01,990 --> 02:22:59,680
injured don't

4139
02:23:03,590 --> 02:23:02,000
don't approach a landed ufo too close

4140
02:23:05,670 --> 02:23:03,600
that would be my advice make sure it's

4141
02:23:09,670 --> 02:23:05,680
cooled off because these

4142
02:23:11,270 --> 02:23:09,680
things come in hot hot hot hot

4143
02:23:13,270 --> 02:23:11,280
which is kind of even would happen

4144
02:23:15,190 --> 02:23:13,280
travis walton right because he

4145
02:23:16,550 --> 02:23:15,200
he kind of thought it was gonna yeah as

4146
02:23:18,710 --> 02:23:16,560
i said so he thought right it was like

4147
02:23:20,230 --> 02:23:18,720
oh i don't think it was on purpose but

4148
02:23:21,110 --> 02:23:20,240
obviously when he got struck you know

4149
02:23:24,309 --> 02:23:21,120
it's

4150
02:23:25,349 --> 02:23:24,319
uh one more quick question then josh if

4151
02:23:26,870 --> 02:23:25,359
you've got any more questions go ahead

4152
02:23:28,630 --> 02:23:26,880
and also anybody else that might want to

4153
02:23:29,910 --> 02:23:28,640
hop in i don't want to hold up pressing

4154
02:23:31,429 --> 02:23:29,920
too long if no one else is going to hop

4155
02:23:33,510 --> 02:23:31,439
on here tonight but another one from

4156
02:23:35,429 --> 02:23:33,520
melissa this is during astral projection

4157
02:23:38,230 --> 02:23:35,439
do you fly or think

4158
02:23:40,389 --> 02:23:38,240
of where you want to be and you're there

4159
02:23:42,870 --> 02:23:40,399
how does that work

4160
02:23:44,550 --> 02:23:42,880
uh yeah that's sort of how you do it

4161
02:23:47,190 --> 02:23:44,560
you're like you have to set your

4162
02:23:49,349 --> 02:23:47,200
intention it's it's a lot like learning

4163
02:23:50,469 --> 02:23:49,359
a musical instrument learning to ride a

4164
02:23:53,510 --> 02:23:50,479
bike

4165
02:23:56,070 --> 02:23:53,520
walking a tightrope maybe or a new

4166
02:23:57,990 --> 02:23:56,080
it takes a lot of focus

4167
02:23:59,110 --> 02:23:58,000
and you pop out you know you finally get

4168
02:24:01,270 --> 02:23:59,120
to that point where you've done it

4169
02:24:02,870 --> 02:24:01,280
you're like wow oh my god it works it's

4170
02:24:04,550 --> 02:24:02,880
amazing it's real

4171
02:24:05,990 --> 02:24:04,560
and you freak out of course and it can

4172
02:24:07,510 --> 02:24:06,000
get a little scary but then you're like

4173
02:24:09,030 --> 02:24:07,520
okay what did i want to do i wanted to

4174
02:24:11,030 --> 02:24:09,040
go somewhere

4175
02:24:12,389 --> 02:24:11,040
and it's hard to do it on the physical

4176
02:24:14,389 --> 02:24:12,399
plane because you're like oh i want to

4177
02:24:16,550 --> 02:24:14,399
go see my sister-in-law's house and i'm

4178
02:24:17,349 --> 02:24:16,560
like bouncing along at five miles an

4179
02:24:19,030 --> 02:24:17,359
hour

4180
02:24:20,469 --> 02:24:19,040
i'm like shoot i'm only i know i can

4181
02:24:21,830 --> 02:24:20,479
only stay awake a minute i'm not going

4182
02:24:24,710 --> 02:24:21,840
to get there

4183
02:24:25,910 --> 02:24:24,720
and if you really focus your zoom you

4184
02:24:29,910 --> 02:24:25,920
teleport

4185
02:24:31,670 --> 02:24:29,920
i've gotten to be able to do that and uh

4186
02:24:32,870 --> 02:24:31,680
yeah so i would say that you can

4187
02:24:35,190 --> 02:24:32,880
actually

4188
02:24:36,630 --> 02:24:35,200
it's like teleporting once i was like

4189
02:24:39,190 --> 02:24:36,640
trying to get to the moon because robert

4190
02:24:41,110 --> 02:24:39,200
monroe did it and i'm like hey he's a

4191
02:24:42,710 --> 02:24:41,120
huge out of the guy and other people are

4192
02:24:45,349 --> 02:24:42,720
talking about it and i'm like oh hell if

4193
02:24:47,110 --> 02:24:45,359
they can do it so can i

4194
02:24:48,630 --> 02:24:47,120
and i meant to do it for the longest

4195
02:24:50,309 --> 02:24:48,640
time finally

4196
02:24:52,710 --> 02:24:50,319
popped out i'm like oh look there's the

4197
02:24:54,309 --> 02:24:52,720
moon that's right i wanted to go there

4198
02:24:55,830 --> 02:24:54,319
and i'm flying towards it and i'm like

4199
02:24:57,590 --> 02:24:55,840
this is don't know i've only got like

4200
02:24:59,510 --> 02:24:57,600
five minutes i can't stay awake one five

4201
02:25:01,190 --> 02:24:59,520
minutes i'm not that good i'm like

4202
02:25:03,910 --> 02:25:01,200
faster faster faster i'm like just get

4203
02:25:05,830 --> 02:25:03,920
there already then boom whoosh

4204
02:25:07,510 --> 02:25:05,840
i don't like talking about this honestly

4205
02:25:09,349 --> 02:25:07,520
because people are like yeah sure you

4206
02:25:11,270 --> 02:25:09,359
went to the moon

4207
02:25:13,190 --> 02:25:11,280
right

4208
02:25:15,510 --> 02:25:13,200
but i honest to god i

4209
02:25:18,389 --> 02:25:15,520
did i did

4210
02:25:19,429 --> 02:25:18,399
and i landed on the i almost wanted to

4211
02:25:21,190 --> 02:25:19,439
swear there

4212
02:25:32,469 --> 02:25:21,200
oh you can swear in here joe and ben

4213
02:25:36,150 --> 02:25:34,309
don't believe me i don't care do it

4214
02:25:39,190 --> 02:25:36,160
yourself and you will see

4215
02:25:40,710 --> 02:25:39,200
it is a wild when you're like oh my my

4216
02:25:43,990 --> 02:25:40,720
friends would never no one's ever going

4217
02:25:47,349 --> 02:25:45,910
in a remote viewing story with the

4218
02:25:49,030 --> 02:25:47,359
government with the remote viewing stuff

4219
02:25:51,510 --> 02:25:49,040
i always thought that was nonsense and

4220
02:25:53,030 --> 02:25:51,520
i've had somebody you know prove me

4221
02:25:56,150 --> 02:25:53,040
without a doubt that remote viewing was

4222
02:25:57,830 --> 02:25:56,160
real i mean blew my mind really had told

4223
02:26:00,230 --> 02:25:57,840
me something they had no possible way of

4224
02:26:01,510 --> 02:26:00,240
knowing so um i mean yeah if they can do

4225
02:26:02,870 --> 02:26:01,520
that i

4226
02:26:03,990 --> 02:26:02,880
don't believe it's a possibility for

4227
02:26:06,070 --> 02:26:04,000
sure

4228
02:26:07,590 --> 02:26:06,080
another question here from why uh and

4229
02:26:09,429 --> 02:26:07,600
this is kind of this is an in-depth

4230
02:26:11,270 --> 02:26:09,439
question for sure kind of opinion on the

4231
02:26:13,030 --> 02:26:11,280
rendal shim force incident which is

4232
02:26:16,389 --> 02:26:13,040
that's a broad question that's a big

4233
02:26:19,590 --> 02:26:16,399
incident so yeah well there's what eight

4234
02:26:20,790 --> 02:26:19,600
ten books on this case it's real

4235
02:26:22,870 --> 02:26:20,800
yeah for those who say it's not real

4236
02:26:25,349 --> 02:26:22,880
like you're out of your mind how many

4237
02:26:27,830 --> 02:26:25,359
witnesses are there hundreds it's not

4238
02:26:30,950 --> 02:26:27,840
just colonel halton jim pennston and

4239
02:26:32,550 --> 02:26:30,960
larry warren there's a lot it's real

4240
02:26:35,990 --> 02:26:32,560
i think it was attracted by the nuclear

4241
02:26:37,670 --> 02:26:36,000
materials there uh it's a three days

4242
02:26:39,110 --> 02:26:37,680
four days i mean it's more than that

4243
02:26:42,150 --> 02:26:39,120
long incident

4244
02:26:45,670 --> 02:26:42,160
uh in entities involved

4245
02:26:48,710 --> 02:26:45,680
yeah it's a crazy crazy case 1981 it's

4246
02:26:49,670 --> 02:26:48,720
absolutely real for sure that's my

4247
02:26:52,230 --> 02:26:49,680
opinion

4248
02:26:54,550 --> 02:26:52,240
i didn't investigate it personally

4249
02:26:57,590 --> 02:26:54,560
but i did hear larry warren speak even

4250
02:27:02,550 --> 02:27:00,950
lambasted for some of the things he said

4251
02:27:04,309 --> 02:27:02,560
it's a controversial case and the better

4252
02:27:07,349 --> 02:27:04,319
the case is the more likely you're going

4253
02:27:08,469 --> 02:27:07,359
to be attacked viciously

4254
02:27:11,270 --> 02:27:08,479
questions you don't want to start

4255
02:27:13,990 --> 02:27:11,280
writing the numbers or the um uh

4256
02:27:15,510 --> 02:27:14,000
the ones and zeros

4257
02:27:16,950 --> 02:27:15,520
oh yeah i

4258
02:27:18,790 --> 02:27:16,960
remember that

4259
02:27:19,990 --> 02:27:18,800
there was weird symbols on the craft

4260
02:27:22,309 --> 02:27:20,000
that

4261
02:27:24,710 --> 02:27:22,319
as well which i thought to my mind maybe

4262
02:27:27,510 --> 02:27:24,720
it just says toyota in you know alien

4263
02:27:31,030 --> 02:27:28,309
you know

4264
02:27:32,630 --> 02:27:31,040
what what is that yeah he apparently got

4265
02:27:33,830 --> 02:27:32,640
some weird download of these numbers

4266
02:27:36,469 --> 02:27:33,840
which

4267
02:27:37,830 --> 02:27:36,479
i've heard another coordinates

4268
02:27:39,110 --> 02:27:37,840
i'm sorry um

4269
02:27:40,790 --> 02:27:39,120
you're not talking about the

4270
02:27:42,870 --> 02:27:40,800
the hieroglyphic looking things aren't

4271
02:27:44,950 --> 02:27:42,880
you didn't if i'm not mistaken the the

4272
02:27:46,950 --> 02:27:44,960
reynolds enforced and later on he

4273
02:27:48,550 --> 02:27:46,960
started getting a i can't think of what

4274
02:27:51,750 --> 02:27:48,560
it's called right now the uh ones and

4275
02:27:53,270 --> 02:27:51,760
zeros yeah binary binary code yeah

4276
02:27:55,150 --> 02:27:53,280
mm-hmm on here i think it turned out to

4277
02:27:57,190 --> 02:27:55,160
be coordinates and um it's so

4278
02:27:59,110 --> 02:27:57,200
synchronicity that led into the question

4279
02:28:00,950 --> 02:27:59,120
i was about to ask whenever you get done

4280
02:28:02,790 --> 02:28:00,960
with that big well it ended up being

4281
02:28:03,830 --> 02:28:02,800
coordinates for like um

4282
02:28:07,910 --> 02:28:03,840
uh

4283
02:28:10,230 --> 02:28:07,920
world like um pyramids and you know

4284
02:28:11,910 --> 02:28:10,240
anomalies and stuff in it

4285
02:28:14,790 --> 02:28:11,920
right well yeah

4286
02:28:15,990 --> 02:28:14,800
that's what he says uh so which i find

4287
02:28:18,550 --> 02:28:16,000
really interesting that's your kind of

4288
02:28:20,710 --> 02:28:18,560
really typical download type thing

4289
02:28:23,590 --> 02:28:20,720
but there were also symbols on the craft

4290
02:28:25,510 --> 02:28:23,600
as well so both turned up in that case

4291
02:28:27,190 --> 02:28:25,520
some crafts do have symbols on lonnie's

4292
02:28:30,950 --> 02:28:27,200
amara case

4293
02:28:32,550 --> 02:28:30,960
uh there's a number of cases the fir

4294
02:28:34,389 --> 02:28:32,560
yeah it's a very interesting case and

4295
02:28:36,469 --> 02:28:34,399
it's got levels and levels and levels to

4296
02:28:38,630 --> 02:28:36,479
it and uh i think some of those guys had

4297
02:28:41,270 --> 02:28:38,640
real honest-to-god contact

4298
02:28:44,389 --> 02:28:41,280
and yeah his health suffered too jim

4299
02:28:46,070 --> 02:28:44,399
pennison i think it was yes it did

4300
02:28:47,429 --> 02:28:46,080
um spooky thank you first of all for

4301
02:28:49,349 --> 02:28:47,439
being here and showing support every

4302
02:28:50,550 --> 02:28:49,359
single night uh has a great question he

4303
02:28:53,190 --> 02:28:50,560
said if he's missed it i don't think we

4304
02:28:54,630 --> 02:28:53,200
covered this but he says has preston uh

4305
02:28:56,469 --> 02:28:54,640
have opinions or insight on the

4306
02:28:57,830 --> 02:28:56,479
vatican's role in the global ufo

4307
02:29:00,230 --> 02:28:57,840
cover-up

4308
02:29:03,670 --> 02:29:00,240
yeah i do and they're on my naughty list

4309
02:29:05,510 --> 02:29:03,680
along with the banking industry

4310
02:29:08,710 --> 02:29:05,520
and the

4311
02:29:10,309 --> 02:29:08,720
the you know the pharmaceutical industry

4312
02:29:12,150 --> 02:29:10,319
and uh these

4313
02:29:13,110 --> 02:29:12,160
one percenters

4314
02:29:21,349 --> 02:29:13,120
they

4315
02:29:22,389 --> 02:29:21,359
um it's ridiculous

4316
02:29:26,950 --> 02:29:22,399
for

4317
02:29:29,030 --> 02:29:26,960
and then say what you know there's

4318
02:29:31,110 --> 02:29:29,040
nothing to it it's so disingenuous and

4319
02:29:32,630 --> 02:29:31,120
it's just a big fat lie and i'm really

4320
02:29:34,710 --> 02:29:32,640
unhappy about it

4321
02:29:36,389 --> 02:29:34,720
i mean how hard is it to tell the truth

4322
02:29:39,349 --> 02:29:36,399
why cover it up

4323
02:29:40,870 --> 02:29:39,359
what benefit is it there's such

4324
02:29:44,710 --> 02:29:40,880
oh you're getting me mad

4325
02:29:50,389 --> 02:29:47,990
three power power hungry people who are

4326
02:29:51,590 --> 02:29:50,399
do not have our best interests in mind

4327
02:29:52,870 --> 02:29:51,600
that's one of the reasons i'm in this

4328
02:29:54,870 --> 02:29:52,880
field and i'm not

4329
02:29:56,950 --> 02:29:54,880
giving up until

4330
02:29:58,389 --> 02:29:56,960
you know we get told the truth i don't

4331
02:30:00,469 --> 02:29:58,399
think they're ever going to do it i

4332
02:30:01,830 --> 02:30:00,479
think disclosure will happen

4333
02:30:04,389 --> 02:30:01,840
but they're kicking and screaming the

4334
02:30:07,190 --> 02:30:04,399
whole way and i think the ats will come

4335
02:30:09,510 --> 02:30:07,200
finally just like all right we're done

4336
02:30:10,790 --> 02:30:09,520
and you're bye you're out

4337
02:30:11,670 --> 02:30:10,800
i remember

4338
02:30:13,270 --> 02:30:11,680
yeah

4339
02:30:14,150 --> 02:30:13,280
i remember talking to ben about this one

4340
02:30:16,710 --> 02:30:14,160
time

4341
02:30:19,270 --> 02:30:16,720
oh man almost two years ago i said ben

4342
02:30:20,870 --> 02:30:19,280
who represents us right like when

4343
02:30:22,790 --> 02:30:20,880
whatever contacts going on whether it be

4344
02:30:24,230 --> 02:30:22,800
with the government or individuals

4345
02:30:25,750 --> 02:30:24,240
it's this kind of scary thought if it's

4346
02:30:28,150 --> 02:30:25,760
not just your everyday individual

4347
02:30:30,389 --> 02:30:28,160
because if it's someone higher up the

4348
02:30:32,230 --> 02:30:30,399
hierarchy of the chain of command

4349
02:30:34,550 --> 02:30:32,240
they're never going to allow that power

4350
02:30:35,830 --> 02:30:34,560
dynamic to shift why would they want it

4351
02:30:37,110 --> 02:30:35,840
to right

4352
02:30:39,110 --> 02:30:37,120
and so it's always

4353
02:30:41,510 --> 02:30:39,120
been interesting to me

4354
02:30:43,990 --> 02:30:41,520
how we're being represented i guess who

4355
02:30:45,270 --> 02:30:44,000
and what represents us besides your your

4356
02:30:47,510 --> 02:30:45,280
everyday

4357
02:30:49,670 --> 02:30:47,520
contact e that let's be honest has

4358
02:30:51,830 --> 02:30:49,680
there's been a running

4359
02:30:53,990 --> 02:30:51,840
agenda behind for years behind them to

4360
02:30:55,030 --> 02:30:54,000
make them look ridiculous

4361
02:30:56,630 --> 02:30:55,040
so it's something that's always weight

4362
02:30:58,230 --> 02:30:56,640
heavy on me for sure

4363
02:30:59,590 --> 02:30:58,240
pepe has an interesting question though

4364
02:31:01,510 --> 02:30:59,600
can beings follow you while you're

4365
02:31:03,190 --> 02:31:01,520
astral projecting

4366
02:31:04,230 --> 02:31:03,200
sure they can follow you while you're in

4367
02:31:05,190 --> 02:31:04,240
your body

4368
02:31:07,510 --> 02:31:05,200
um

4369
02:31:09,590 --> 02:31:07,520
astral projection is safe

4370
02:31:11,590 --> 02:31:09,600
it is absolutely safe it's the safest

4371
02:31:14,469 --> 02:31:11,600
sleeping the fact of the matter is we're

4372
02:31:17,030 --> 02:31:14,479
all doing it every night we really are

4373
02:31:19,110 --> 02:31:17,040
you are conscious on the astral planes i

4374
02:31:19,910 --> 02:31:19,120
go there and i see my family i'm like

4375
02:31:25,670 --> 02:31:19,920
hey

4376
02:31:26,469 --> 02:31:25,680
yeah i'm like are you gonna remember it

4377
02:31:29,349 --> 02:31:26,479
no

4378
02:31:31,349 --> 02:31:29,359
like wait what how can you be conscious

4379
02:31:34,630 --> 02:31:31,359
here and not know

4380
02:31:37,110 --> 02:31:34,640
you know wow and it's weird it's

4381
02:31:39,429 --> 02:31:37,120
we live it's almost separate lives our

4382
02:31:41,270 --> 02:31:39,439
minds are compartmentalized so my point

4383
02:31:43,030 --> 02:31:41,280
is we do this

4384
02:31:45,429 --> 02:31:43,040
all the time and there are invisible

4385
02:31:47,270 --> 02:31:45,439
beings around us constantly and yes

4386
02:31:49,270 --> 02:31:47,280
astral projection can

4387
02:31:51,830 --> 02:31:49,280
attract spirits

4388
02:31:54,150 --> 02:31:51,840
i i did have like

4389
02:31:56,070 --> 02:31:54,160
some haunting problems going on

4390
02:31:58,630 --> 02:31:56,080
and finally i went out of body i'm like

4391
02:32:00,150 --> 02:31:58,640
hey dude what are you in

4392
02:32:02,389 --> 02:32:00,160
who are you

4393
02:32:04,070 --> 02:32:02,399
you know he's like oh my name's mac i'm

4394
02:32:06,309 --> 02:32:04,080
like mac

4395
02:32:07,590 --> 02:32:06,319
what are you doing in my house it's time

4396
02:32:09,990 --> 02:32:07,600
to go

4397
02:32:11,670 --> 02:32:10,000
and i love that so much i pulled him out

4398
02:32:13,270 --> 02:32:11,680
of my house and i went back and i

4399
02:32:15,830 --> 02:32:13,280
searched and i found another i'm like

4400
02:32:18,550 --> 02:32:15,840
hey what's your name oh i'm will

4401
02:32:22,630 --> 02:32:18,560
oh my god whoa it wasn't me

4402
02:32:26,150 --> 02:32:22,640
no no he was a he was a

4403
02:32:27,990 --> 02:32:26,160
grayish hair you know thin face who's

4404
02:32:29,190 --> 02:32:28,000
kind of an older guy and i'm like you

4405
02:32:31,429 --> 02:32:29,200
have to go

4406
02:32:33,030 --> 02:32:31,439
and and yeah i've had a few scary

4407
02:32:34,389 --> 02:32:33,040
experiences where like you pop out of

4408
02:32:37,110 --> 02:32:34,399
body and there's

4409
02:32:39,110 --> 02:32:37,120
earthbound spirits and they come at you

4410
02:32:40,950 --> 02:32:39,120
i'm like oh bye i'm going back into my

4411
02:32:43,590 --> 02:32:40,960
body you know you're supposed to project

4412
02:32:45,510 --> 02:32:43,600
love i'm like

4413
02:32:47,190 --> 02:32:45,520
i'm not ready for that you know i'm not

4414
02:32:49,670 --> 02:32:47,200
quite there yet

4415
02:32:51,190 --> 02:32:49,680
oh man uh ben really quick unless

4416
02:32:52,630 --> 02:32:51,200
preston wants to add more we did cover

4417
02:32:55,030 --> 02:32:52,640
the galileo project this one reason i

4418
02:32:56,070 --> 02:32:55,040
skipped over your question um unless you

4419
02:32:57,429 --> 02:32:56,080
have something more you would want to

4420
02:32:58,630 --> 02:32:57,439
add to that press then there is another

4421
02:33:00,389 --> 02:32:58,640
question from anthony there at the

4422
02:33:02,150 --> 02:33:00,399
bottom

4423
02:33:04,630 --> 02:33:02,160
uh which is what what do you think the

4424
02:33:07,510 --> 02:33:04,640
lucifer has seen and what if anything

4425
02:33:09,670 --> 02:33:07,520
they rent sharing um which is the

4426
02:33:11,349 --> 02:33:09,680
telescope i do believe is i believe

4427
02:33:13,270 --> 02:33:11,359
anthony if that's referring to if not

4428
02:33:14,309 --> 02:33:13,280
you can correct me but what do you what

4429
02:33:15,590 --> 02:33:14,319
are your thoughts on that i know that

4430
02:33:18,630 --> 02:33:15,600
kind of brings us back to the the

4431
02:33:22,150 --> 02:33:18,640
previous question a little bit again

4432
02:33:27,910 --> 02:33:23,990
that's a loaded question i'm not a

4433
02:33:30,230 --> 02:33:27,920
religious guy let me preface that okay

4434
02:33:33,030 --> 02:33:30,240
uh i do think that there's probably evil

4435
02:33:34,469 --> 02:33:33,040
oh yeah i know there's evil spirits uh

4436
02:33:36,389 --> 02:33:34,479
and i think there's probably angelic and

4437
02:33:37,910 --> 02:33:36,399
demonic spirits out there

4438
02:33:38,710 --> 02:33:37,920
i've done research into that there's

4439
02:33:41,510 --> 02:33:38,720
some

4440
02:33:42,550 --> 02:33:41,520
bad ghosts out there in human spirits

4441
02:33:44,070 --> 02:33:42,560
even

4442
02:33:44,950 --> 02:33:44,080
i don't know

4443
02:33:46,150 --> 02:33:44,960
that

4444
02:33:48,950 --> 02:33:46,160
there's

4445
02:33:51,030 --> 02:33:48,960
god in the devil like we think of it in

4446
02:33:53,510 --> 02:33:51,040
organized religion

4447
02:33:55,510 --> 02:33:53,520
that's not what i've seen out of body

4448
02:33:57,429 --> 02:33:55,520
honestly and i got really interested in

4449
02:33:58,950 --> 02:33:57,439
it more recently like what's what about

4450
02:33:59,830 --> 02:33:58,960
hell what's hell you know what is that

4451
02:34:02,630 --> 02:33:59,840
like

4452
02:34:05,030 --> 02:34:02,640
because i haven't seen you know an

4453
02:34:06,070 --> 02:34:05,040
ultimate god or anything i've basked in

4454
02:34:09,030 --> 02:34:06,080
the light

4455
02:34:11,429 --> 02:34:09,040
that near-death experiences describe

4456
02:34:14,309 --> 02:34:11,439
and you get a feeling of source for sure

4457
02:34:16,309 --> 02:34:14,319
like there is a god

4458
02:34:17,990 --> 02:34:16,319
and as we were thinking there is an evil

4459
02:34:19,910 --> 02:34:18,000
force i mean just look at earth and you

4460
02:34:22,710 --> 02:34:19,920
can tell

4461
02:34:25,270 --> 02:34:22,720
there is evil it does exist and i went

4462
02:34:26,389 --> 02:34:25,280
to these lower realms and they are not

4463
02:34:28,150 --> 02:34:26,399
pleasant

4464
02:34:30,550 --> 02:34:28,160
you cannot get people's attention

4465
02:34:32,710 --> 02:34:30,560
they're lost in despair

4466
02:34:33,510 --> 02:34:32,720
they are locked in grief

4467
02:34:37,030 --> 02:34:33,520
and

4468
02:34:38,469 --> 02:34:37,040
anger

4469
02:34:40,309 --> 02:34:38,479
and just

4470
02:34:41,830 --> 02:34:40,319
negative emotions

4471
02:34:43,349 --> 02:34:41,840
then there's sort of a realm right above

4472
02:34:45,110 --> 02:34:43,359
that where everyone's kind of fine but

4473
02:34:46,150 --> 02:34:45,120
it's still a lower level it's like a

4474
02:34:47,510 --> 02:34:46,160
mall

4475
02:34:49,270 --> 02:34:47,520
or a

4476
02:34:51,190 --> 02:34:49,280
it's not a natural setting you know the

4477
02:34:53,590 --> 02:34:51,200
upper realms are bright and beautiful

4478
02:34:55,429 --> 02:34:53,600
and no shadows and no no they're gor

4479
02:34:57,349 --> 02:34:55,439
they're amazing

4480
02:34:58,710 --> 02:34:57,359
these lower levels are like

4481
02:35:00,790 --> 02:34:58,720
not nice

4482
02:35:03,590 --> 02:35:00,800
and i go there and people like attack me

4483
02:35:05,110 --> 02:35:03,600
and i'm like whoa hey i'm just

4484
02:35:06,870 --> 02:35:05,120
i didn't touch you

4485
02:35:07,670 --> 02:35:06,880
i'm walking around this one place trying

4486
02:35:08,630 --> 02:35:07,680
to

4487
02:35:10,230 --> 02:35:08,640
explore

4488
02:35:11,910 --> 02:35:10,240
my gosh i wonder you know am i making

4489
02:35:14,150 --> 02:35:11,920
this up i don't think i am you know i've

4490
02:35:15,750 --> 02:35:14,160
gotten proof before i'm out of body i

4491
02:35:17,830 --> 02:35:15,760
appeared as an apparition in front of

4492
02:35:20,230 --> 02:35:17,840
somebody and they saw me

4493
02:35:23,190 --> 02:35:20,240
so i know it's real and i've seen them

4494
02:35:25,349 --> 02:35:23,200
but i'm like huh so i asked

4495
02:35:27,349 --> 02:35:25,359
i came up to this one kid he looked like

4496
02:35:28,389 --> 02:35:27,359
not pretty harmless i'm like are you

4497
02:35:30,389 --> 02:35:28,399
dead

4498
02:35:31,990 --> 02:35:30,399
i just asked him and he gave me this

4499
02:35:34,550 --> 02:35:32,000
look like are you an idiot

4500
02:35:36,230 --> 02:35:34,560
he says we all are

4501
02:35:38,230 --> 02:35:36,240
i'm like oh and i'm looking around at

4502
02:35:40,550 --> 02:35:38,240
everybody and so i thought i'm like hmm

4503
02:35:42,309 --> 02:35:40,560
i came up to another lady she's sitting

4504
02:35:43,670 --> 02:35:42,319
at a table with her friends i'm like are

4505
02:35:46,389 --> 02:35:43,680
you dead

4506
02:35:48,550 --> 02:35:46,399
and she's like

4507
02:35:50,150 --> 02:35:48,560
yes of course

4508
02:35:53,429 --> 02:35:50,160
that's so matter of fact

4509
02:35:55,830 --> 02:35:53,439
yeah and i'm like really because i'm not

4510
02:35:58,230 --> 02:35:55,840
and that was the wrong thing to say

4511
02:36:00,389 --> 02:35:58,240
because every head in that place turned

4512
02:36:02,469 --> 02:36:00,399
and looked at me with this cold evil

4513
02:36:05,510 --> 02:36:02,479
stare like oh

4514
02:36:08,309 --> 02:36:05,520
what you're you're one of those guys i'm

4515
02:36:10,710 --> 02:36:08,319
like bye

4516
02:36:12,230 --> 02:36:10,720
yeah there are lower hellish realms i

4517
02:36:14,309 --> 02:36:12,240
don't think it's a lake of fire though

4518
02:36:16,790 --> 02:36:14,319
you could create that if you want people

4519
02:36:18,550 --> 02:36:16,800
put themselves into that i'm not going

4520
02:36:20,950 --> 02:36:18,560
there it's very uncomfortable the lower

4521
02:36:24,070 --> 02:36:20,960
you go

4522
02:36:25,670 --> 02:36:24,080
yeah my friend died of alcoholism and i

4523
02:36:27,590 --> 02:36:25,680
came popped out of my body and he was in

4524
02:36:29,670 --> 02:36:27,600
the darkest place i've ever been and

4525
02:36:31,670 --> 02:36:29,680
he's screaming

4526
02:36:34,309 --> 02:36:31,680
he was very unhappy he's like i'm not

4527
02:36:36,710 --> 02:36:34,319
ready for this i'm not ready help ah

4528
02:36:38,870 --> 02:36:36,720
he's screaming he's like in hell

4529
02:36:41,030 --> 02:36:38,880
and i'm like roger you're gonna be fine

4530
02:36:43,270 --> 02:36:41,040
i'm gonna i'm gonna try to help you i'm

4531
02:36:45,270 --> 02:36:43,280
gonna help you i'm gonna do my best

4532
02:36:46,150 --> 02:36:45,280
because i've been able to cross people

4533
02:36:47,670 --> 02:36:46,160
over

4534
02:36:49,429 --> 02:36:47,680
in a few cases because i read about

4535
02:36:51,750 --> 02:36:49,439
other people doing it i'm like hey they

4536
02:36:54,070 --> 02:36:51,760
do it i'm gonna do it

4537
02:36:55,349 --> 02:36:54,080
yeah that's a that's a complete other

4538
02:36:58,230 --> 02:36:55,359
story but

4539
02:36:59,030 --> 02:36:58,240
yeah i came i prayed for roger

4540
02:37:02,870 --> 02:36:59,040
and

4541
02:37:04,790 --> 02:37:02,880
place bit by bit until he got up all the

4542
02:37:07,670 --> 02:37:04,800
way to those what i would call the

4543
02:37:09,910 --> 02:37:07,680
garden realm so the heavenly realms

4544
02:37:11,510 --> 02:37:09,920
yeah or it's really beautiful

4545
02:37:13,349 --> 02:37:11,520
um another really quick question from

4546
02:37:14,710 --> 02:37:13,359
melissa and this is one that i think

4547
02:37:16,150 --> 02:37:14,720
josh for you probably hits home i know

4548
02:37:18,150 --> 02:37:16,160
it's home for me too growing up in a

4549
02:37:21,110 --> 02:37:18,160
very religious family is um if they talk

4550
02:37:22,870 --> 02:37:21,120
in the bible about flying in on chariots

4551
02:37:26,550 --> 02:37:22,880
of fire

4552
02:37:28,710 --> 02:37:26,560
do you think that this was just a ufo

4553
02:37:29,670 --> 02:37:28,720
um i think probably in a lot of cases it

4554
02:37:31,670 --> 02:37:29,680
was

4555
02:37:33,349 --> 02:37:31,680
uh because they the

4556
02:37:36,469 --> 02:37:33,359
idea of extraterrestrials and other

4557
02:37:38,309 --> 02:37:36,479
planets was not popularized until the

4558
02:37:40,309 --> 02:37:38,319
you know late

4559
02:37:42,710 --> 02:37:40,319
1800s

4560
02:37:45,110 --> 02:37:42,720
uh early 1900s when the even people

4561
02:37:46,790 --> 02:37:45,120
thought of that sort of thing i think we

4562
02:37:48,150 --> 02:37:46,800
had a tendency to just say well angels

4563
02:37:50,550 --> 02:37:48,160
you know demons

4564
02:37:51,990 --> 02:37:50,560
astronomical phenomena

4565
02:37:53,830 --> 02:37:52,000
and

4566
02:37:57,349 --> 02:37:53,840
a lady in maine that i interviewed the

4567
02:37:59,190 --> 02:37:57,359
et's had all kinds of messages for her

4568
02:38:01,030 --> 02:37:59,200
um they told her i think i may have

4569
02:38:02,710 --> 02:38:01,040
mentioned this if you don't stop putting

4570
02:38:04,309 --> 02:38:02,720
off the greeted negativity you're going

4571
02:38:07,670 --> 02:38:04,319
to destroy

4572
02:38:09,349 --> 02:38:07,680
your planet like we did they told her

4573
02:38:10,630 --> 02:38:09,359
tell people to stop eating meat it's not

4574
02:38:12,230 --> 02:38:10,640
good for them

4575
02:38:13,910 --> 02:38:12,240
they told they told her if people should

4576
02:38:16,309 --> 02:38:13,920
start disappearing from this planet it's

4577
02:38:18,870 --> 02:38:16,319
being done by us for the universal good

4578
02:38:20,950 --> 02:38:18,880
so there's going to be huge hurricanes

4579
02:38:22,630 --> 02:38:20,960
katrina is nothing it's going to be much

4580
02:38:24,230 --> 02:38:22,640
worse

4581
02:38:26,389 --> 02:38:24,240
they said

4582
02:38:29,110 --> 02:38:26,399
we've been upgrading the genetics of

4583
02:38:29,990 --> 02:38:29,120
humans and also cats and dogs to make

4584
02:38:32,710 --> 02:38:30,000
them more

4585
02:38:35,270 --> 02:38:32,720
emotionally intelligent and they said

4586
02:38:37,110 --> 02:38:35,280
who you thought were angels that was us

4587
02:38:39,190 --> 02:38:37,120
all those recordings you have of angels

4588
02:38:41,429 --> 02:38:39,200
that was actually us

4589
02:38:43,670 --> 02:38:41,439
so yeah i think some of them probably

4590
02:38:46,389 --> 02:38:43,680
were not going to say all because i

4591
02:38:47,510 --> 02:38:46,399
looked into angels and like wow those

4592
02:38:50,230 --> 02:38:47,520
are real

4593
02:38:51,910 --> 02:38:50,240
they really are

4594
02:38:54,230 --> 02:38:51,920
now have you ever had an encounter with

4595
02:38:55,830 --> 02:38:54,240
an angel

4596
02:38:58,309 --> 02:38:55,840
i sometimes wonder

4597
02:39:00,070 --> 02:38:58,319
there was one time i had a a really

4598
02:39:01,429 --> 02:39:00,080
weird experience where

4599
02:39:02,870 --> 02:39:01,439
you know i'd gone to visit a friend's

4600
02:39:04,389 --> 02:39:02,880
house and

4601
02:39:05,990 --> 02:39:04,399
my car wouldn't start and i tried to

4602
02:39:06,950 --> 02:39:06,000
jump start it it was an old you know

4603
02:39:08,550 --> 02:39:06,960
clutch

4604
02:39:10,070 --> 02:39:08,560
and it rolled down the hill and the

4605
02:39:11,510 --> 02:39:10,080
engine didn't start and so i'm pushing

4606
02:39:13,670 --> 02:39:11,520
this car out

4607
02:39:16,950 --> 02:39:13,680
around the l.a trying to get home

4608
02:39:21,750 --> 02:39:18,469
i didn't know what to do i couldn't find

4609
02:39:23,190 --> 02:39:21,760
her house and this guy just appears

4610
02:39:25,030 --> 02:39:23,200
i'm like whoa

4611
02:39:26,309 --> 02:39:25,040
you know and he's like here i'll help

4612
02:39:27,830 --> 02:39:26,319
you

4613
02:39:29,270 --> 02:39:27,840
and he was just super nice i don't know

4614
02:39:31,429 --> 02:39:29,280
if he was an angel or just a really nice

4615
02:39:33,270 --> 02:39:31,439
guy but he was an angel in my book

4616
02:39:35,670 --> 02:39:33,280
because he took the battery out of his

4617
02:39:38,550 --> 02:39:35,680
car and took the battery out of my car

4618
02:39:40,309 --> 02:39:38,560
and put his battery in my car and

4619
02:39:42,150 --> 02:39:40,319
started it and put my battery back in

4620
02:39:44,230 --> 02:39:42,160
took his battery out i mean he spent an

4621
02:39:46,790 --> 02:39:44,240
hour rescuing me

4622
02:39:49,750 --> 02:39:46,800
to me that's an angel but i couldn't

4623
02:39:51,670 --> 02:39:49,760
can't say it was supernatural

4624
02:39:53,349 --> 02:39:51,680
but i think that sort of thing

4625
02:39:54,550 --> 02:39:53,359
they come and

4626
02:39:56,790 --> 02:39:54,560
you know i've heard a lot of stories

4627
02:39:58,389 --> 02:39:56,800
like this where people will just appear

4628
02:40:00,309 --> 02:39:58,399
out of nowhere

4629
02:40:01,190 --> 02:40:00,319
and help you

4630
02:40:02,790 --> 02:40:01,200
yeah

4631
02:40:05,110 --> 02:40:02,800
so that maybe that was

4632
02:40:06,870 --> 02:40:05,120
i was happy let me tell you i'm like i

4633
02:40:08,389 --> 02:40:06,880
oh if i could ever pay back that guy i

4634
02:40:11,510 --> 02:40:08,399
would

4635
02:40:14,150 --> 02:40:12,790
well i was just gonna say uh in case

4636
02:40:15,349 --> 02:40:14,160
somebody else wants to hop in i put up

4637
02:40:16,950 --> 02:40:15,359
the last one for it for anybody who

4638
02:40:18,309 --> 02:40:16,960
might want to that's all i'm going to

4639
02:40:20,070 --> 02:40:18,319
put up there for the last one uh because

4640
02:40:21,349 --> 02:40:20,080
we think about 19 minutes before lin

4641
02:40:23,830 --> 02:40:21,359
gets going with samantha here tonight

4642
02:40:24,950 --> 02:40:23,840
samantha mullet over at spacedo radio uh

4643
02:40:26,710 --> 02:40:24,960
but i was going to do last kind of like

4644
02:40:28,309 --> 02:40:26,720
one last round table here for you and

4645
02:40:30,230 --> 02:40:28,319
josh we had a question for him and then

4646
02:40:32,070 --> 02:40:30,240
press the new as well to see if there's

4647
02:40:33,269 --> 02:40:32,080
any other questions in the chat so

4648
02:40:34,389 --> 02:40:33,279
please feel free to go ahead josh i was

4649
02:40:35,910 --> 02:40:34,399
just letting anybody in the chat know if

4650
02:40:37,349 --> 02:40:35,920
they wanted to ask you guys about like

4651
02:40:39,830 --> 02:40:37,359
three four minutes to get in right i'm

4652
02:40:41,030 --> 02:40:39,840
gonna cut it off for them okay

4653
02:40:43,190 --> 02:40:41,040
yeah um

4654
02:40:45,510 --> 02:40:43,200
i got one quick question that relates to

4655
02:40:47,750 --> 02:40:45,520
what you were just saying actually um

4656
02:40:50,389 --> 02:40:47,760
i've had a thought that angels could be

4657
02:40:52,790 --> 02:40:50,399
like some extra dimensional type of

4658
02:40:55,429 --> 02:40:52,800
alien being maybe just high up on the

4659
02:40:57,910 --> 02:40:55,439
charts you know or something but um

4660
02:40:59,990 --> 02:40:57,920
when i think about like all these um

4661
02:41:01,269 --> 02:41:00,000
ancient anomalies and stuff that are

4662
02:41:03,510 --> 02:41:01,279
clearly

4663
02:41:05,830 --> 02:41:03,520
you know way more advanced than what we

4664
02:41:06,870 --> 02:41:05,840
had capabilities of making

4665
02:41:07,990 --> 02:41:06,880
um

4666
02:41:10,309 --> 02:41:08,000
especially nowadays it looks like

4667
02:41:12,469 --> 02:41:10,319
there's a pyramid on antarctica that one

4668
02:41:15,030 --> 02:41:12,479
really gets me you said something early

4669
02:41:17,110 --> 02:41:15,040
about um he's being saying that you know

4670
02:41:18,230 --> 02:41:17,120
they destroyed our planet do you think

4671
02:41:19,830 --> 02:41:18,240
that

4672
02:41:21,670 --> 02:41:19,840
when it relates to like say the flood

4673
02:41:24,150 --> 02:41:21,680
that you hear about in every single

4674
02:41:26,630 --> 02:41:24,160
religion pretty much that maybe there

4675
02:41:27,910 --> 02:41:26,640
was an extraterrestrial species or

4676
02:41:32,469 --> 02:41:27,920
multiple

4677
02:41:34,870 --> 02:41:32,479
working right down here with us

4678
02:41:36,630 --> 02:41:34,880
helping us and maybe they helped us to

4679
02:41:38,870 --> 02:41:36,640
the point where we advanced too fast

4680
02:41:40,950 --> 02:41:38,880
like before maybe our souls advanced or

4681
02:41:43,190 --> 02:41:40,960
we destroyed ourselves or something

4682
02:41:44,469 --> 02:41:43,200
um i don't know i just thought i had

4683
02:41:45,910 --> 02:41:44,479
honestly it

4684
02:41:48,070 --> 02:41:45,920
kind of came in a dream i just want to

4685
02:41:49,990 --> 02:41:48,080
know your thoughts on it real personal

4686
02:41:51,190 --> 02:41:50,000
yeah i think you hit it on the head

4687
02:41:53,990 --> 02:41:51,200
because the lady i'm talking to in

4688
02:41:55,750 --> 02:41:54,000
florida dolly the et's told her that

4689
02:41:57,510 --> 02:41:55,760
i said yeah we messed up well we

4690
02:42:00,070 --> 02:41:57,520
advanced you know the previous

4691
02:42:02,070 --> 02:42:00,080
civilization too fast game technology

4692
02:42:03,670 --> 02:42:02,080
they ended up destroying themselves

4693
02:42:05,429 --> 02:42:03,680
that's why we're very careful with how

4694
02:42:07,429 --> 02:42:05,439
we're treating you guys

4695
02:42:09,030 --> 02:42:07,439
there have been previous advanced

4696
02:42:11,429 --> 02:42:09,040
civilizations

4697
02:42:13,750 --> 02:42:11,439
numerous times it's not just atlantis

4698
02:42:15,990 --> 02:42:13,760
this has been going on

4699
02:42:17,910 --> 02:42:16,000
and uh yeah

4700
02:42:20,790 --> 02:42:17,920
i'm sorry in atlantean told me that in

4701
02:42:25,269 --> 02:42:20,800
my dream i'm not making this up um

4702
02:42:27,830 --> 02:42:25,279
this uh wow i'm sorry that trips um i'm

4703
02:42:29,110 --> 02:42:27,840
so sorry this guy in the dream he told

4704
02:42:31,429 --> 02:42:29,120
me he was

4705
02:42:32,469 --> 02:42:31,439
he said that atlantis was

4706
02:42:36,870 --> 02:42:32,479
the

4707
02:42:38,710 --> 02:42:36,880
something and that we advanced too fast

4708
02:42:41,670 --> 02:42:38,720
and we destroyed ourselves this weird

4709
02:42:43,030 --> 02:42:41,680
dream that came back in 350

4710
02:42:45,429 --> 02:42:43,040
i didn't mean to cut you off i'm sorry

4711
02:42:47,190 --> 02:42:45,439
whenever you said it's just

4712
02:42:48,790 --> 02:42:47,200
really surreal

4713
02:42:50,230 --> 02:42:48,800
it's really cool talking to you josh i'm

4714
02:42:51,910 --> 02:42:50,240
glad you came around because yeah that's

4715
02:42:53,030 --> 02:42:51,920
exactly what i

4716
02:42:57,030 --> 02:42:53,040
yeah

4717
02:42:58,870 --> 02:42:57,040
oh it's insane you think that that

4718
02:43:00,389 --> 02:42:58,880
is it to hear that from so many

4719
02:43:09,590 --> 02:43:00,399
different sources and when i heard you

4720
02:43:13,269 --> 02:43:11,750
oh go ahead josh sorry go ahead

4721
02:43:15,030 --> 02:43:13,279
no i'm just going to say thank you that

4722
02:43:17,110 --> 02:43:15,040
um that actually got my heart beating

4723
02:43:21,110 --> 02:43:17,120
fast that was a really intense dream

4724
02:43:25,110 --> 02:43:23,750
yeah i think i had to have i had had

4725
02:43:26,790 --> 02:43:25,120
that dream for a reason i definitely

4726
02:43:28,389 --> 02:43:26,800
believe that now um

4727
02:43:30,150 --> 02:43:28,399
thank you for telling me that

4728
02:43:31,510 --> 02:43:30,160
yeah and one thing i want to say real

4729
02:43:32,710 --> 02:43:31,520
quick cause i hear this all the time for

4730
02:43:33,670 --> 02:43:32,720
people like

4731
02:43:35,910 --> 02:43:33,680
these are

4732
02:43:37,110 --> 02:43:35,920
demons i'm like hold on a second you

4733
02:43:38,950 --> 02:43:37,120
know

4734
02:43:41,269 --> 02:43:38,960
if okay they're fallen angels what about

4735
02:43:43,750 --> 02:43:41,279
the angels who haven't fallen

4736
02:43:46,550 --> 02:43:43,760
what about them so are all et's demons

4737
02:43:49,269 --> 02:43:46,560
that makes zero sense there's more

4738
02:43:51,590 --> 02:43:49,279
angels who haven't fallen and so why not

4739
02:43:54,309 --> 02:43:51,600
say that some of these are angels as we

4740
02:43:55,830 --> 02:43:54,319
would think of them rather than demonic

4741
02:43:58,150 --> 02:43:55,840
and i studied

4742
02:43:59,990 --> 02:43:58,160
this whole demon thing which is real but

4743
02:44:01,670 --> 02:44:00,000
it's a separate phenomenon i don't think

4744
02:44:03,190 --> 02:44:01,680
it's this

4745
02:44:04,150 --> 02:44:03,200
i really don't i just wanted to throw

4746
02:44:06,870 --> 02:44:04,160
that out there because there are

4747
02:44:08,870 --> 02:44:06,880
different explanations for ufos

4748
02:44:10,469 --> 02:44:08,880
and i think some might be time travelers

4749
02:44:12,710 --> 02:44:10,479
and some might be interdimensional and

4750
02:44:13,750 --> 02:44:12,720
some might be crypto terrestrials but i

4751
02:44:15,510 --> 02:44:13,760
think mostly we're dealing with

4752
02:44:18,550 --> 02:44:15,520
extraterrestrials from other planets

4753
02:44:20,950 --> 02:44:18,560
people people who are more like us

4754
02:44:22,469 --> 02:44:20,960
really than different

4755
02:44:23,670 --> 02:44:22,479
that's one question i'm glad you kind of

4756
02:44:24,630 --> 02:44:23,680
brought up the time thing a little bit

4757
02:44:26,469 --> 02:44:24,640
because that's something i'm kind of

4758
02:44:27,429 --> 02:44:26,479
curious about that i forgot to ask you

4759
02:44:28,870 --> 02:44:27,439
actually

4760
02:44:31,110 --> 02:44:28,880
was um

4761
02:44:33,429 --> 02:44:31,120
as far as why we did cover uh the

4762
02:44:34,950 --> 02:44:33,439
opinions on the renders from uh incident

4763
02:44:37,990 --> 02:44:34,960
so if you go back just a little bit uh

4764
02:44:39,990 --> 02:44:38,000
preston did cover that one um but

4765
02:44:41,910 --> 02:44:40,000
the whole idea that we we've heard

4766
02:44:43,349 --> 02:44:41,920
stories where people are missing time

4767
02:44:44,790 --> 02:44:43,359
but you're saying there have actually

4768
02:44:46,630 --> 02:44:44,800
been some stories that you come across

4769
02:44:48,630 --> 02:44:46,640
where they seamlessly

4770
02:44:50,630 --> 02:44:48,640
are put back into the timeline with no

4771
02:44:53,110 --> 02:44:50,640
missing time and you and you've had some

4772
02:44:54,870 --> 02:44:53,120
cases uh similar to this

4773
02:44:56,230 --> 02:44:54,880
yeah it's gonna be in my next book i

4774
02:44:57,910 --> 02:44:56,240
can't wait to get this book out she

4775
02:44:59,590 --> 02:44:57,920
would be like gone for a week and they

4776
02:45:01,910 --> 02:44:59,600
put her back that night

4777
02:45:03,830 --> 02:45:01,920
i've had one lady she was cured of a car

4778
02:45:05,190 --> 02:45:03,840
accident it took her two hours to cure

4779
02:45:07,349 --> 02:45:05,200
her they put her back in the scene of

4780
02:45:08,070 --> 02:45:07,359
the accident minutes later

4781
02:45:09,750 --> 02:45:08,080
and

4782
02:45:11,910 --> 02:45:09,760
there's people who've gone back in time

4783
02:45:13,750 --> 02:45:11,920
they will show you the past they will

4784
02:45:16,389 --> 02:45:13,760
show people the future

4785
02:45:18,550 --> 02:45:16,399
they can do stuff that's out

4786
02:45:19,429 --> 02:45:18,560
i mean it's crazy

4787
02:45:21,349 --> 02:45:19,439
uh

4788
02:45:22,790 --> 02:45:21,359
it's really hard to wrap my head around

4789
02:45:24,630 --> 02:45:22,800
sometimes but they can do stuff with

4790
02:45:27,110 --> 02:45:24,640
time that we have only

4791
02:45:29,670 --> 02:45:27,120
i mean we can't even imagine

4792
02:45:31,269 --> 02:45:29,680
so amazing uh it was uh why no worries

4793
02:45:32,630 --> 02:45:31,279
to be sorry i just i i do know that he

4794
02:45:34,630 --> 02:45:32,640
had to answer that so if we go just a

4795
02:45:36,309 --> 02:45:34,640
little bit there but yeah the time thing

4796
02:45:38,389 --> 02:45:36,319
i think that only reinforce it

4797
02:45:40,309 --> 02:45:38,399
reinforces a little bit more how time is

4798
02:45:42,550 --> 02:45:40,319
just not linear at least in the sense

4799
02:45:44,230 --> 02:45:42,560
that we understand it doesn't mean that

4800
02:45:45,910 --> 02:45:44,240
it's i mean it is what it is it's just

4801
02:45:47,590 --> 02:45:45,920
our understanding of it is not there yet

4802
02:45:48,950 --> 02:45:47,600
right just ignorance at this point is

4803
02:45:50,309 --> 02:45:48,960
all it is i believe yeah we'll have an

4804
02:45:52,389 --> 02:45:50,319
out-of-body experience go to the other

4805
02:45:54,710 --> 02:45:52,399
side and you'll get a taste of it time

4806
02:45:57,670 --> 02:45:54,720
does not it's not the same it collapses

4807
02:45:59,269 --> 02:45:57,680
there it is weird

4808
02:46:01,269 --> 02:45:59,279
yeah now do you still believe in the

4809
02:46:02,950 --> 02:46:01,279
multiverse um preston because i do

4810
02:46:05,670 --> 02:46:02,960
believe that time like what you're

4811
02:46:07,349 --> 02:46:05,680
saying about time like maybe these

4812
02:46:08,630 --> 02:46:07,359
things they can traverse outside of it

4813
02:46:10,550 --> 02:46:08,640
but um

4814
02:46:12,870 --> 02:46:10,560
yeah i like the multiverse it'd also be

4815
02:46:14,230 --> 02:46:12,880
real do you agree with that

4816
02:46:16,070 --> 02:46:14,240
yeah i think we probably do have

4817
02:46:17,510 --> 02:46:16,080
probable realities and alternate

4818
02:46:18,710 --> 02:46:17,520
realities

4819
02:46:20,870 --> 02:46:18,720
and it work

4820
02:46:22,389 --> 02:46:20,880
the universe is like a fractal it's

4821
02:46:24,070 --> 02:46:22,399
branching on all different directions

4822
02:46:26,389 --> 02:46:24,080
and every choice we make puts us on

4823
02:46:28,309 --> 02:46:26,399
another timeline kind of

4824
02:46:30,630 --> 02:46:28,319
i don't know it's weird it's hard the

4825
02:46:32,230 --> 02:46:30,640
whole mandela effect i don't even know

4826
02:46:33,269 --> 02:46:32,240
what to think of that i mean i really

4827
02:46:35,510 --> 02:46:33,279
don't

4828
02:46:37,190 --> 02:46:35,520
right that come that comes up with all

4829
02:46:39,230 --> 02:46:37,200
of this and yeah i think there probably

4830
02:46:41,349 --> 02:46:39,240
are alternate realities and

4831
02:46:44,790 --> 02:46:41,359
multi-verses and

4832
02:46:46,070 --> 02:46:44,800
it's a lot simpler and more complicated

4833
02:46:48,950 --> 02:46:46,080
at the same time

4834
02:46:53,190 --> 02:46:51,590
i completely agree um i recently came up

4835
02:46:55,030 --> 02:46:53,200
with this um

4836
02:46:56,790 --> 02:46:55,040
saying that um

4837
02:46:58,469 --> 02:46:56,800
uh

4838
02:47:00,950 --> 02:46:58,479
fate is real but our destiny is

4839
02:47:02,389 --> 02:47:00,960
determined by how we respond when they

4840
02:47:04,309 --> 02:47:02,399
knock to their door i don't know that

4841
02:47:05,670 --> 02:47:04,319
just works for me i feel like certain

4842
02:47:07,110 --> 02:47:05,680
things are completely out of our control

4843
02:47:08,630 --> 02:47:07,120
and maybe they're meant to happen but we

4844
02:47:10,630 --> 02:47:08,640
still have the free will to respond to

4845
02:47:12,630 --> 02:47:10,640
it

4846
02:47:14,389 --> 02:47:12,640
you know that that helps me

4847
02:47:16,309 --> 02:47:14,399
i totally agree

4848
02:47:18,309 --> 02:47:16,319
we are autonomous beings i think that's

4849
02:47:20,630 --> 02:47:18,319
one of the main et agendas they're

4850
02:47:23,429 --> 02:47:20,640
trying to wake us up to the fact that we

4851
02:47:26,070 --> 02:47:23,439
are very powerful beings with all kinds

4852
02:47:27,429 --> 02:47:26,080
of abilities and it's up to us

4853
02:47:29,750 --> 02:47:27,439
but we can

4854
02:47:31,269 --> 02:47:29,760
do telepathy

4855
02:47:32,710 --> 02:47:31,279
you know we can do all these things that

4856
02:47:34,230 --> 02:47:32,720
they do

4857
02:47:35,830 --> 02:47:34,240
that's i mean that's what jesus said all

4858
02:47:37,349 --> 02:47:35,840
these things i have done you shall do

4859
02:47:40,630 --> 02:47:37,359
and greater

4860
02:47:42,469 --> 02:47:40,640
and i think that's absolutely true

4861
02:47:45,429 --> 02:47:42,479
and that's the et's message too by the

4862
02:47:48,070 --> 02:47:45,439
way another e.t said love is the answer

4863
02:47:51,510 --> 02:47:48,080
for humankind that's coming from a gray

4864
02:47:52,309 --> 02:47:51,520
a gray alien i love that

4865
02:47:55,590 --> 02:47:52,319
yeah

4866
02:47:57,910 --> 02:47:55,600
it's it is pretty amazing that uh

4867
02:48:00,309 --> 02:47:57,920
with all of this stuff it's it's i i

4868
02:48:01,510 --> 02:48:00,319
always find it fascinating that um we

4869
02:48:02,950 --> 02:48:01,520
kind of

4870
02:48:04,710 --> 02:48:02,960
some people try to put it in a box that

4871
02:48:05,590 --> 02:48:04,720
they can understand and investigate and

4872
02:48:09,830 --> 02:48:05,600
and

4873
02:48:11,510 --> 02:48:09,840
for me i've definitely resided to the

4874
02:48:13,349 --> 02:48:11,520
fact that i'm just going to enjoy the

4875
02:48:15,590 --> 02:48:13,359
journey wherever it ends i'm going

4876
02:48:17,110 --> 02:48:15,600
and and uh i guess we have about 10

4877
02:48:19,110 --> 02:48:17,120
minutes left here let me ask you both

4878
02:48:21,429 --> 02:48:19,120
that and we'll start with you josh

4879
02:48:23,349 --> 02:48:21,439
what are your thoughts on

4880
02:48:24,790 --> 02:48:23,359
disclosure whatever that might be but

4881
02:48:26,230 --> 02:48:24,800
the full-on business where we're all

4882
02:48:27,190 --> 02:48:26,240
like oh yeah they're here just general

4883
02:48:28,309 --> 02:48:27,200
knowledge

4884
02:48:30,870 --> 02:48:28,319
what do you think if you just had to

4885
02:48:33,030 --> 02:48:30,880
guess a timeline uh what do you think it

4886
02:48:34,070 --> 02:48:33,040
is are we coming close to the end here

4887
02:48:35,269 --> 02:48:34,080
of of

4888
02:48:36,389 --> 02:48:35,279
things finally being all out on the

4889
02:48:38,630 --> 02:48:36,399
tables or where cards are all on the

4890
02:48:41,110 --> 02:48:38,640
table

4891
02:48:43,030 --> 02:48:41,120
i can definitely see that if it's

4892
02:48:44,950 --> 02:48:43,040
getting more

4893
02:48:46,469 --> 02:48:44,960
accepted where i'm starting to get

4894
02:48:48,389 --> 02:48:46,479
better where i can kind of fish it out

4895
02:48:50,469 --> 02:48:48,399
of people and pick up vibes but then

4896
02:48:51,830 --> 02:48:50,479
there's it's so weird it's like almost

4897
02:48:53,269 --> 02:48:51,840
like the mandela effect thing it's like

4898
02:48:54,550 --> 02:48:53,279
one two different timelines there's

4899
02:48:56,630 --> 02:48:54,560
still

4900
02:48:57,670 --> 02:48:56,640
so many people that just you know they

4901
02:48:59,750 --> 02:48:57,680
completely

4902
02:49:01,190 --> 02:48:59,760
are oblivious to it it seems like to me

4903
02:49:02,790 --> 02:49:01,200
like when i mentioned something about

4904
02:49:03,910 --> 02:49:02,800
the pentagon ufo reports they're like

4905
02:49:05,990 --> 02:49:03,920
what are you talking about but then

4906
02:49:08,870 --> 02:49:06,000
other people are all on board with it

4907
02:49:09,670 --> 02:49:08,880
but i'm i almost feel like it's maybe

4908
02:49:11,510 --> 02:49:09,680
too

4909
02:49:12,790 --> 02:49:11,520
like a good reality and a bad reality

4910
02:49:14,309 --> 02:49:12,800
like with the multiverse thing that's

4911
02:49:15,429 --> 02:49:14,319
kind of why i asked that i feel like if

4912
02:49:17,190 --> 02:49:15,439
we don't

4913
02:49:18,710 --> 02:49:17,200
you know get our [\h__\h] together really as

4914
02:49:20,230 --> 02:49:18,720
a species and

4915
02:49:21,830 --> 02:49:20,240
you know stop thinking about our

4916
02:49:24,230 --> 02:49:21,840
differences and like you know race and

4917
02:49:26,150 --> 02:49:24,240
politics and crap we're going to end up

4918
02:49:28,150 --> 02:49:26,160
self-destructing just like that

4919
02:49:29,190 --> 02:49:28,160
crazy-ass dream i just had but it maybe

4920
02:49:30,950 --> 02:49:29,200
if we

4921
02:49:32,550 --> 02:49:30,960
can use this phenomenon it can actually

4922
02:49:33,910 --> 02:49:32,560
like bring people together and i know

4923
02:49:35,269 --> 02:49:33,920
it's gonna be scary for a lot of people

4924
02:49:37,590 --> 02:49:35,279
but hopefully it will bring people

4925
02:49:39,670 --> 02:49:37,600
together maybe that will save us you

4926
02:49:42,150 --> 02:49:39,680
know that's some that's my opinion i

4927
02:49:44,070 --> 02:49:42,160
don't know exactly how soon

4928
02:49:45,990 --> 02:49:44,080
really soon

4929
02:49:47,910 --> 02:49:46,000
very interesting and what are your

4930
02:49:49,510 --> 02:49:47,920
thoughts on this preston

4931
02:49:50,790 --> 02:49:49,520
um what josh said

4932
02:49:52,309 --> 02:49:50,800
yeah i

4933
02:49:54,070 --> 02:49:52,319
i agree i don't know if our government

4934
02:49:56,950 --> 02:49:54,080
is really ever going to come clean

4935
02:49:58,790 --> 02:49:56,960
honestly but i think they're

4936
02:50:00,389 --> 02:49:58,800
they're forced to do it because if they

4937
02:50:02,469 --> 02:50:00,399
don't no one's ever going to believe

4938
02:50:04,469 --> 02:50:02,479
them ever again

4939
02:50:05,590 --> 02:50:04,479
so they kind of have to they have no

4940
02:50:07,590 --> 02:50:05,600
choice

4941
02:50:08,630 --> 02:50:07,600
and i think the et's are probably going

4942
02:50:11,110 --> 02:50:08,640
to come

4943
02:50:14,710 --> 02:50:11,120
one way or another i just cannot see

4944
02:50:16,230 --> 02:50:14,720
this lasting a whole other generation

4945
02:50:18,469 --> 02:50:16,240
because the cat's out of the bag

4946
02:50:20,469 --> 02:50:18,479
everyone knows what ufos are they're

4947
02:50:23,910 --> 02:50:20,479
seeing them all the time

4948
02:50:25,349 --> 02:50:23,920
we're going to destroy our planet or

4949
02:50:27,190 --> 02:50:25,359
if we don't

4950
02:50:29,910 --> 02:50:27,200
start working together coming together

4951
02:50:31,349 --> 02:50:29,920
in love and truth and you know

4952
02:50:34,150 --> 02:50:31,359
kindness

4953
02:50:37,910 --> 02:50:34,160
love is the answer i i do believe that

4954
02:50:39,269 --> 02:50:37,920
so i'm hoping that we just can get there

4955
02:50:41,429 --> 02:50:39,279
and 100

4956
02:50:42,469 --> 02:50:41,439
just end this cover-up and then the et's

4957
02:50:44,630 --> 02:50:42,479
will show

4958
02:50:46,150 --> 02:50:44,640
i think that's one of the main things

4959
02:50:48,230 --> 02:50:46,160
one of the main barriers to open

4960
02:50:50,550 --> 02:50:48,240
official contact is this

4961
02:50:52,309 --> 02:50:50,560
stupid cover-up

4962
02:50:54,230 --> 02:50:52,319
i love this from melissa here she goes

4963
02:50:55,990 --> 02:50:54,240
uh i can't wait so big willy has an

4964
02:50:58,150 --> 02:50:56,000
actual alien on the show to interview

4965
02:50:59,590 --> 02:50:58,160
one day listen uh ben and joe have

4966
02:51:02,070 --> 02:50:59,600
already had cinnamon's hairy on here

4967
02:51:04,230 --> 02:51:02,080
okay cinnamon terry is a bona fide

4968
02:51:06,150 --> 02:51:04,240
genuine alien so it's already happened

4969
02:51:07,830 --> 02:51:06,160
melissa cat's out of the bag

4970
02:51:09,269 --> 02:51:07,840
i guess let's let me just for the fun of

4971
02:51:10,870 --> 02:51:09,279
it because we have about five minutes

4972
02:51:12,630 --> 02:51:10,880
here and we're gonna wrap things up but

4973
02:51:14,230 --> 02:51:12,640
do you guys think on this and i guess i

4974
02:51:16,550 --> 02:51:14,240
can start with you as well josh

4975
02:51:19,830 --> 02:51:16,560
do you think there are are the

4976
02:51:21,190 --> 02:51:19,840
those uh aliens or ets walking among us

4977
02:51:23,030 --> 02:51:21,200
that maybe we've already hung out with

4978
02:51:25,429 --> 02:51:23,040
and are influencing this topic as a

4979
02:51:27,670 --> 02:51:25,439
whole currently

4980
02:51:30,070 --> 02:51:27,680
i definitely do uh

4981
02:51:32,230 --> 02:51:30,080
preston kind of just

4982
02:51:33,750 --> 02:51:32,240
or that dream i just told you that i was

4983
02:51:35,269 --> 02:51:33,760
not why my heart was found in just a

4984
02:51:37,269 --> 02:51:35,279
minute ago whenever i was talking about

4985
02:51:39,349 --> 02:51:37,279
that as soon as he said atlantis that

4986
02:51:41,269 --> 02:51:39,359
hit me so hard because they

4987
02:51:42,950 --> 02:51:41,279
died in my dream i think the whole

4988
02:51:44,389 --> 02:51:42,960
download thing is just real i think

4989
02:51:46,870 --> 02:51:44,399
that's why they're going to school yards

4990
02:51:49,190 --> 02:51:46,880
and preston just it wasn't your last

4991
02:51:51,349 --> 02:51:49,200
book uh question about schoolyards yeah

4992
02:51:54,230 --> 02:51:51,359
i think and

4993
02:51:55,990 --> 02:51:54,240
i really do think that um

4994
02:51:57,830 --> 02:51:56,000
hopefully you know that there might be

4995
02:51:59,190 --> 02:51:57,840
i'm sure there is some bad ones but i

4996
02:52:01,349 --> 02:51:59,200
think there are some good ones that

4997
02:52:02,950 --> 02:52:01,359
don't want to see us self-destruct and i

4998
02:52:04,710 --> 02:52:02,960
know people that

4999
02:52:05,910 --> 02:52:04,720
i know a family you know who knows who

5000
02:52:07,510 --> 02:52:05,920
has uh

5001
02:52:09,190 --> 02:52:07,520
chris bledsoe you guys know that he's

5002
02:52:11,990 --> 02:52:09,200
been healed i know there has to be some

5003
02:52:13,750 --> 02:52:12,000
good ones out there you know they um

5004
02:52:15,269 --> 02:52:13,760
i think they're hopefully you know want

5005
02:52:17,510 --> 02:52:15,279
to see a succeed but

5006
02:52:19,670 --> 02:52:17,520
i think it's ultimately um

5007
02:52:20,950 --> 02:52:19,680
up to us and um i apologize i got kind

5008
02:52:23,269 --> 02:52:20,960
of off um

5009
02:52:24,870 --> 02:52:23,279
my brain just went breaking everywhere

5010
02:52:27,110 --> 02:52:24,880
no worries

5011
02:52:29,349 --> 02:52:27,120
i i definitely think they're among us no

5012
02:52:31,110 --> 02:52:29,359
doubt there are cases where they are

5013
02:52:32,870 --> 02:52:31,120
seen in places they're not supposed to

5014
02:52:35,910 --> 02:52:32,880
be seen

5015
02:52:39,429 --> 02:52:35,920
a bunch of cases in casinos uh

5016
02:52:42,389 --> 02:52:39,439
there's a case i know of cases at school

5017
02:52:46,070 --> 02:52:42,399
cases on at bus stops convenience stores

5018
02:52:47,670 --> 02:52:46,080
gas stations i mean i can go on

5019
02:52:49,110 --> 02:52:47,680
there's been a few times i'm at a ufo

5020
02:52:50,469 --> 02:52:49,120
convention

5021
02:52:52,550 --> 02:52:50,479
people approach my table and i'm like

5022
02:52:56,389 --> 02:52:52,560
wow look at this guy

5023
02:52:59,429 --> 02:52:58,070
and goes to my sister-in-law and she's

5024
02:53:01,990 --> 02:52:59,439
talking to her and she turns to me it's

5025
02:53:03,750 --> 02:53:02,000
like did you see his eyes i'm like yes i

5026
02:53:06,790 --> 02:53:03,760
did she's like i think he was an alien

5027
02:53:07,990 --> 02:53:06,800
i'm like wouldn't surprise me

5028
02:53:09,030 --> 02:53:08,000
dreamy

5029
02:53:11,510 --> 02:53:09,040
quality

5030
02:53:13,110 --> 02:53:11,520
ah gary

5031
02:53:14,710 --> 02:53:13,120
gary voorhees

5032
02:53:17,349 --> 02:53:14,720
doing this movie

5033
02:53:18,790 --> 02:53:17,359
amazing work himself um

5034
02:53:19,910 --> 02:53:18,800
but yeah so let's get wrapped up here

5035
02:53:21,349 --> 02:53:19,920
because len's getting ready to go live

5036
02:53:22,790 --> 02:53:21,359
in a couple minutes with uh with

5037
02:53:24,150 --> 02:53:22,800
samantha and for anybody that's been

5038
02:53:28,230 --> 02:53:24,160
dealing with this and prestige an

5039
02:53:30,070 --> 02:53:28,240
amazing job uh covering um some of the

5040
02:53:31,269 --> 02:53:30,080
the uh children or the possible

5041
02:53:32,309 --> 02:53:31,279
pregnancies that are going that way and

5042
02:53:34,230 --> 02:53:32,319
i'm sure that something might come up in

5043
02:53:35,670 --> 02:53:34,240
their topic tonight so uh josh uh is

5044
02:53:36,950 --> 02:53:35,680
there anywhere people can follow you if

5045
02:53:39,429 --> 02:53:36,960
you'd like to put that out there please

5046
02:53:42,230 --> 02:53:39,439
feel free

5047
02:53:44,230 --> 02:53:42,240
um i'm going to be starting a podcast

5048
02:53:46,790 --> 02:53:44,240
here soon i don't know exactly when but

5049
02:53:49,590 --> 02:53:46,800
i know i'm going to help coho chad smith

5050
02:53:51,190 --> 02:53:49,600
next saturday with um questions going to

5051
02:53:55,269 --> 02:53:51,200
be doing another interview

5052
02:53:56,950 --> 02:53:55,279
very nice yes um embarking barbara lee

5053
02:54:00,309 --> 02:53:56,960
barbara

5054
02:54:02,630 --> 02:54:00,319
tomorrow

5055
02:54:04,790 --> 02:54:02,640
and um i'll also be on the fourth and

5056
02:54:07,349 --> 02:54:04,800
fourth and beans um tuesday at two

5057
02:54:10,230 --> 02:54:09,110
awesome very nice

5058
02:54:11,750 --> 02:54:10,240
well i'd say what josh i'm going to take

5059
02:54:13,429 --> 02:54:11,760
you backstage here then really quick and

5060
02:54:14,469 --> 02:54:13,439
i will get preston all set and wrapped

5061
02:54:15,910 --> 02:54:14,479
up i appreciate you coming out and

5062
02:54:17,269 --> 02:54:15,920
hanging out with us and and for helping

5063
02:54:19,030 --> 02:54:17,279
get us in contact together so we were

5064
02:54:21,190 --> 02:54:19,040
able to make this awesome episode happen

5065
02:54:22,469 --> 02:54:21,200
tonight i really appreciate it brother

5066
02:54:23,429 --> 02:54:22,479
oh he didn't oh he already left i'll

5067
02:54:24,400 --> 02:54:23,439
just say yeah i was just gonna take him

5068
02:54:26,070 --> 02:54:24,410
backstage he didn't actually

5069
02:54:27,830 --> 02:54:26,080
[Music]

5070
02:54:29,429 --> 02:54:27,840
all right so preston uh once again guys

5071
02:54:30,550 --> 02:54:29,439
i have all the links in the show notes

5072
02:54:31,590 --> 02:54:30,560
here so if you're watching on youtube

5073
02:54:33,349 --> 02:54:31,600
you can scroll down they'll be right

5074
02:54:35,510 --> 02:54:33,359
there if you're listening in podcast

5075
02:54:36,550 --> 02:54:35,520
format and a future date you will also

5076
02:54:38,230 --> 02:54:36,560
be able to scroll down and everything

5077
02:54:40,469 --> 02:54:38,240
will be in the show notes for you but

5078
02:54:41,750 --> 02:54:40,479
preston if i did miss anything um please

5079
02:54:43,990 --> 02:54:41,760
feel free to tell people where they can

5080
02:54:45,349 --> 02:54:44,000
find you uh anything else you'd like to

5081
02:54:46,710 --> 02:54:45,359
let people know about please feel free

5082
02:54:49,590 --> 02:54:46,720
the floor is yours

5083
02:54:52,150 --> 02:54:49,600
oh thanks yeah well thanks to josh for

5084
02:54:54,389 --> 02:54:52,160
you know setting this up and hi to renee

5085
02:54:56,070 --> 02:54:54,399
and thurston and gary and all the other

5086
02:54:58,389 --> 02:54:56,080
familiar names i saw there in the chat

5087
02:54:59,750 --> 02:54:58,399
room there's quite a few of you

5088
02:55:02,630 --> 02:54:59,760
uh i do have a website

5089
02:55:05,190 --> 02:55:02,640
prestondent.weebly.com

5090
02:55:07,429 --> 02:55:05,200
uh you can find all my books there

5091
02:55:09,349 --> 02:55:07,439
uh i'm on facebook of course twitter

5092
02:55:11,429 --> 02:55:09,359
i've got a youtube channel

5093
02:55:13,349 --> 02:55:11,439
my stuff is on amazon

5094
02:55:14,790 --> 02:55:13,359
i've got another book coming out super

5095
02:55:17,030 --> 02:55:14,800
excited yeah

5096
02:55:18,950 --> 02:55:17,040
i am just

5097
02:55:21,030 --> 02:55:18,960
gung-ho with all this i love it i'm

5098
02:55:22,309 --> 02:55:21,040
having so much fun right now

5099
02:55:23,990 --> 02:55:22,319
i'll tell you what i'm excited for

5100
02:55:25,590 --> 02:55:24,000
because i've been so new into all this

5101
02:55:27,110 --> 02:55:25,600
is that i came in before everything

5102
02:55:28,870 --> 02:55:27,120
everything shut down for a long time so

5103
02:55:30,550 --> 02:55:28,880
whenever things finally happen again

5104
02:55:32,309 --> 02:55:30,560
whenever we finally have

5105
02:55:33,910 --> 02:55:32,319
some sort of a get together i'm excited

5106
02:55:35,830 --> 02:55:33,920
there's so many people that become we

5107
02:55:38,309 --> 02:55:35,840
talk you know if not daily weekly at

5108
02:55:39,590 --> 02:55:38,319
least i'm really excited for when we can

5109
02:55:40,950 --> 02:55:39,600
finally meet some people in person so

5110
02:55:43,429 --> 02:55:40,960
hopefully one day able to shake your

5111
02:55:45,910 --> 02:55:43,439
person and say thank you properly so

5112
02:55:47,670 --> 02:55:45,920
let's see what happens

5113
02:55:49,269 --> 02:55:47,680
but all right preston what say what uh

5114
02:55:50,870 --> 02:55:49,279
like i said you guys follow obviously

5115
02:55:52,790 --> 02:55:50,880
the chat smith podcast

5116
02:55:54,550 --> 02:55:52,800
you guys can look that up as well he

5117
02:55:56,710 --> 02:55:54,560
goes live in the mornings generally and

5118
02:55:57,910 --> 02:55:56,720
then i believe he'll be next sunday not

5119
02:56:00,550 --> 02:55:57,920
that's coming sunday but next sunday in

5120
02:56:02,710 --> 02:56:00,560
the afternoon he will be uh on there

5121
02:56:04,150 --> 02:56:02,720
with them as well so you guys thank you

5122
02:56:05,429 --> 02:56:04,160
so much preston i'm gonna take you

5123
02:56:06,630 --> 02:56:05,439
backstage and get everybody out of here

5124
02:56:08,550 --> 02:56:06,640
for tonight if you want to hang out for

5125
02:56:09,830 --> 02:56:08,560
a second i think josh did pop back in uh

5126
02:56:11,990 --> 02:56:09,840
he might have a question for you off

5127
02:56:15,670 --> 02:56:12,000
once we go off the air here so i'm gonna

5128
02:56:20,870 --> 02:56:18,230
okay guys all right everyone thank you

5129
02:56:22,630 --> 02:56:20,880
so much uh oh looks like ben has plans

5130
02:56:24,550 --> 02:56:22,640
already we're gonna do a garage retreat

5131
02:56:27,110 --> 02:56:24,560
summer 2022.

5132
02:56:30,630 --> 02:56:28,469
i'm just kidding i don't know why i said

5133
02:56:32,870 --> 02:56:30,640
all that but all right guys we do have

5134
02:56:34,710 --> 02:56:32,880
plans for it for sure and like i said

5135
02:56:35,750 --> 02:56:34,720
please go check out lynn wallington

5136
02:56:37,190 --> 02:56:35,760
we'll be going live here in a couple

5137
02:56:38,630 --> 02:56:37,200
minutes i want to thank each and every

5138
02:56:39,910 --> 02:56:38,640
one of you once again for coming in and

5139
02:56:41,590 --> 02:56:39,920
hanging out like i said i will not be

5140
02:56:43,590 --> 02:56:41,600
here next weekend but the following

5141
02:56:46,550 --> 02:56:43,600
weekend after that i will have nicole

5142
02:56:48,230 --> 02:56:46,560
sackett as well as the big live event

5143
02:56:49,110 --> 02:56:48,240
that ben and joe will be doing with jojo

5144
02:56:51,269 --> 02:56:49,120
bone

5145
02:56:53,190 --> 02:56:51,279
forget me i forget the name of the bar

5146
02:56:55,670 --> 02:56:53,200
or the location but it will be right

5147
02:56:57,190 --> 02:56:55,680
there in austin texas i believe unless

5148
02:56:58,469 --> 02:56:57,200
it's taylor texas dang it i guess i

5149
02:57:00,309 --> 02:56:58,479
don't know i should have had the notes

5150
02:57:01,670 --> 02:57:00,319
prepared but they'll be having a good

5151
02:57:03,830 --> 02:57:01,680
time and they'll be live streaming from

5152
02:57:06,469 --> 02:57:03,840
that so as i always say when wrapping up

5153
02:57:11,040 --> 02:57:06,479
a show peace love and tackle grease and

5154
02:57:45,710 --> 02:57:11,050
please stay curious and keep it weird